In post 1024, BigTerp wrote:In post 948, Malakittens wrote:In post 940, TistDaniel wrote:Though I should make note of this. Using the same logic that BigTerp used, we can conclude that if Mala is scum, furtive is almost certain to be her partner. There were two votes on Val, and BigTerp could hammer. If he were Mala's partner, he would have done so, because he was active at the time, and it would have won the game.
Now it's possible that Mala started a wagon on her own partner at ELO, but that does not seem like good play to me. I can see her maybe bussing her partner and voting her partner at ELO, but to start a wagon when there wasn't one?
As I see it, there's an extremely high chance that the solve is either furtive/Mala or BigTerp/Val. And of those two possibilities, I'm on BigTerp/Val.Yeah there’s no way scum would bus this late in the game unless they WERE forcedThese two posts from Mala are giving me a bit of pause. Particularly the blue highlighted portions. I mentioned before how I don't think scum would bus their partner in an ELO situation. Maybe they would hop on eventually, but not start the wagon. Mala seems rather self aware about that and points it out twice during day 3. The back and forth between Furtive and Val from Mala, while also reading me as scum really has me thinking now. Could Mala have been intentionally causing a bit of confusion there? Could Mala have actually bussed their partner from the get go in ELO? And in return, their partner bus them right back? Or does Mala actually have it figured out with a Val/Furtive scum team?In post 801, Malakittens wrote:Eh it's more of which of me/fg you ahve to sort out of who's scum more.In post 797, Asphodelus wrote:Hmm.In post 789, Malakittens wrote:I laid my newbie scum-text-book tell regarding FG p out p well, in addition,to them acting diff.
VOTE: fg
screw it, if i'm wrong, i'm wrong, but i think i'm right
This is a Wifom. Im not sure where to lean into.
I can tell you right now FG will be voting me the next time he's in thread.
So say in theory if i'm town & FG is town -- then Val & BigT need to come in together to hammer FG to win right now say if they were the scum team.
now for theory for me!town one of a townie and the other scum partner need to vote in order for the scum team to win or both townies for that matter.
scum!FG we need either all three townies to vote for him or two townies & the scum partner needs to bus.
more than likely scum aren't going to bus when they are so close. the only time this theory is if there's a guilty then scum is gonna bus to the wall.see above^In post 798, Asphodelus wrote:Yeah, there isn't a quick hammer. THat is odd.
But the other option could be Mala is the person, waiting on me to vote and then their partner quick hammers.
there isn't a quick hammer because not everyone has been posting at the same time.
for instance FG/Val/BigT haven't all posted w/in 10 mins of each other.
I will say when I was scum the last time against Val. I was waiting FOR days for my partner in ELO to come on at the same time to vote or me manilupating a townie to vote so i could hammer
I feel like in an ELO situation a town player is rather careful with their vote. Not in the sense that it draws suspicion, but that voting wrong could lead to a quick hammer with the scum team quickly doing the work. This is exactly why I kept my vote in my pocket waiting for scum!Furtive to hammer town!Val and end the game. When Furtive came on and didn't vote, I knew immediately that Val HAD to be scum. Mala was OK putting their vote on 2 different players day 3. Seems a little audacious, especially considering they were also fingering myself as scum.
Also, the red highlighted part above seems like an odd thing to say. Mala - why so certain that Futrive would be voting you day 3?
Ngl. Scum!Val pushing me the way he did so late in the game would have been a suicide attempt and scum!me pushing scum!Val would. Idk why I would as scum push for Val after pushing FG after Dan came in. I could have continued to push FG for a miselim if he was town and I was scum.
I tend to be a very analytical and over thinker so sometimes I just subconsciously write thoughts in my head.
The whole stating that FG will vote me when thread opens just comes from experience. Most of the time scum don’t have an open mind in EOL. They tend to stick to that scum read and then try to tunnel and out write to win the game.
As for me I used all my possibilities & tools to try to figure out who out of you/FG could be the remaining scum. VCs are kinda crappy, but I think imo they are worse for FG. Then add in the few comments by Val that I don’t really like. In addition, I feel like you hammering Val was more townish. There’s only one part I didn’t like is that I felt like you cut off any possible discussion/information that FG potentially could have slipped reaction wise:
