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Post Post #1725 (ISO) » Wed May 18, 2022 6:41 am

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In post 1722, Dwlee99 wrote:I am already voting Gera, Math
Then please focus conversation there.

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Post Post #1726 (ISO) » Wed May 18, 2022 6:42 am

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In post 1723, MathBlade wrote:
In post 1718, JacksonVirgo wrote:Math if you're wrong on one of Carc/Dwlee does that affect your read on the other?
Possibly. It depends on which world we’re in. If I am alive tomorrow then I worry about it.

If not it’s in Gamma’s hands.
I'd recommend you use mechanical reasoning to back up this read. It
far-fetched
in my opinion that your solve is the obvious one. I am not okay with following your proposed solve, I do appreciate that you'd consolidate though.

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Post Post #1727 (ISO) » Wed May 18, 2022 6:42 am

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In post 1725, MathBlade wrote:
In post 1722, Dwlee99 wrote:I am already voting Gera, Math
Then please focus conversation there.

We need to focus conversations where elims are happening.
I asked for a Carca refresher 20 minutes ago and didn't get one
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Post Post #1728 (ISO) » Wed May 18, 2022 6:42 am

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In post 1724, geraintm wrote:
In post 1658, JacksonVirgo wrote:
In post 1641, geraintm wrote:
In post 1378, MathBlade wrote:
Combined two shot gunsmith with an inno on Gamma.
In post 1357, Titus wrote: I am a combined doctor and neighbor.


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Post Post #1729 (ISO) » Wed May 18, 2022 6:45 am

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In post 1728, JacksonVirgo wrote:
In post 1724, geraintm wrote:
In post 1658, JacksonVirgo wrote:
In post 1641, geraintm wrote:
In post 1378, MathBlade wrote:
Combined two shot gunsmith with an inno on Gamma.
In post 1357, Titus wrote: I am a combined doctor and neighbor.


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This doesn't sound like a real claim?
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Post Post #1730 (ISO) » Wed May 18, 2022 6:45 am

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In post 1729, Crescent wrote:
In post 1728, JacksonVirgo wrote:
In post 1724, geraintm wrote:
In post 1658, JacksonVirgo wrote:
In post 1641, geraintm wrote:
In post 1378, MathBlade wrote:
Combined two shot gunsmith with an inno on Gamma.
In post 1357, Titus wrote: I am a combined doctor and neighbor.


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In post 986, Scorpious wrote: I’m an even night JK
Hood -
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You missed my claim
What was it?
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This doesn't sound like a real claim?
It was a long winded joke. I waitied so long for my punchline and u say this :dead: :dead: :dead:
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Post Post #1731 (ISO) » Wed May 18, 2022 6:46 am

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...That was supposed to be funny?
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Post Post #1732 (ISO) » Wed May 18, 2022 6:48 am

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In post 1731, Crescent wrote:...That was supposed to be funny?
I'm already dead. Stop my heart can't take it :(
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Post Post #1733 (ISO) » Wed May 18, 2022 6:49 am

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In post 1727, Crescent wrote:
In post 1725, MathBlade wrote:
In post 1722, Dwlee99 wrote:I am already voting Gera, Math
Then please focus conversation there.

We need to focus conversations where elims are happening.
I asked for a Carca refresher 20 minutes ago and didn't get one
I have been well versed in my Carca read and there was a beginning part of the day that was horrible for them when they kept pushing my Gamma read. It’s mainly I don’t think they’re scumhunting/townhunting.
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Post Post #1734 (ISO) » Wed May 18, 2022 6:50 am

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In post 1732, JacksonVirgo wrote:
In post 1731, Crescent wrote:...That was supposed to be funny?
I'm already dead. Stop my heart can't take it :(
I'm autistic and take almost everything said to me at face value. Sarcasm and humor have a tendency to fly right past me, and if I attempt to be sarcastic, no one else gets my intent.

And my brain is only working at like 20% right now but with all the noise outside rest is impossible.

I'm not your target audience right now~
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Post Post #1735 (ISO) » Wed May 18, 2022 6:51 am

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In post 1726, JacksonVirgo wrote:
In post 1723, MathBlade wrote:
In post 1718, JacksonVirgo wrote:Math if you're wrong on one of Carc/Dwlee does that affect your read on the other?
Possibly. It depends on which world we’re in. If I am alive tomorrow then I worry about it.

If not it’s in Gamma’s hands.
I'd recommend you use mechanical reasoning to back up this read. It
far-fetched
in my opinion that your solve is the obvious one. I am not okay with following your proposed solve, I do appreciate that you'd consolidate though.

This is the last I am talking, I will not respond to anything quoting this.
I agree it’s not fruitful to discuss this further.

I discussed the mechanical reasoning behind the read.

Not all of them would be scum but it’s a great PoE, especially if Scorpious is scum a good chunk are likely and they don’t want Gamma and me living to tomorrow.
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Post Post #1736 (ISO) » Wed May 18, 2022 6:52 am

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In post 1734, Crescent wrote:
In post 1732, JacksonVirgo wrote:
In post 1731, Crescent wrote:...That was supposed to be funny?
I'm already dead. Stop my heart can't take it :(
I'm autistic and take almost everything said to me at face value. Sarcasm and humor have a tendency to fly right past me, and if I attempt to be sarcastic, no one else gets my intent.

And my brain is only working at like 20% right now but with all the noise outside rest is impossible.

I'm not your target audience right now~
Hi fellow person on the spectrum <3
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Post Post #1737 (ISO) » Wed May 18, 2022 6:52 am

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That’s why I use /joke and /s :) they help!
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Post Post #1738 (ISO) » Wed May 18, 2022 6:56 am

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In post 1733, MathBlade wrote:
In post 1727, Crescent wrote:
In post 1725, MathBlade wrote:
In post 1722, Dwlee99 wrote:I am already voting Gera, Math
Then please focus conversation there.

We need to focus conversations where elims are happening.
I asked for a Carca refresher 20 minutes ago and didn't get one
I have been well versed in my Carca read and there was a beginning part of the day that was horrible for them when they kept pushing my Gamma read. It’s mainly I don’t think they’re scumhunting/townhunting.
Gamma did one thing in particular that pinged me pretty hard yesterday. During the MM buildup, he said MM/Dwlee were probably both scum together, but voted DWlee effectively as a countertrain to MM. If they're both scum together, why split your vote off?

I have almost no recollection of Gamma today, come to think of it, but I feel like you/Scorpious being scum together doesn't really make sense unless you're the type who will essentially double suicide gambit, and scum you doing this to protect town Scorpious is... Odd. So I'm just taking the scan at face value.
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Post Post #1739 (ISO) » Wed May 18, 2022 6:57 am

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I’ve seen scum do some wild stuff
I wouldn’t write off scum all piling on a player as impossible
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Post Post #1740 (ISO) » Wed May 18, 2022 7:02 am

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@Crescent that Dwlee vote was because I was holding out for the NM-style hammer but had to do something with my vote in the meanwhile
NM’s means of doing so is to self-vote start of day 1 and I don’t think I’ve ever seen him change votes mid-day 1 except to hammer
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Post Post #1741 (ISO) » Wed May 18, 2022 7:02 am

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In post 1739, Gamma Emerald wrote:I’ve seen scum do some wild stuff
I wouldn’t write off scum all piling on a player as impossible
The way people seem to regard Titus it seems like something she might encourage a team of hers to do.

It's probably not as simple as just all 3 being scum though.

Oh speaking of that, the question was slipping my mind, but.. How does setup meta work here? People have generally been acting like it's specifically a 3-person scumteam.

With what I'm used to, 3 in 13 is possible, but 4 is more likely.
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Post Post #1742 (ISO) » Wed May 18, 2022 7:03 am

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In post 1740, Gamma Emerald wrote:@Crescent that Dwlee vote was because I was holding out for the NM-style hammer but had to do something with my vote in the meanwhile
NM’s means of doing so is to self-vote start of day 1 and I don’t think I’ve ever seen him change votes mid-day 1 except to hammer
You did... Make it kinda clear you knew you were hammering, true.
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Post Post #1743 (ISO) » Wed May 18, 2022 7:05 am

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In post 1738, Crescent wrote:
In post 1733, MathBlade wrote:
In post 1727, Crescent wrote:
In post 1725, MathBlade wrote:
In post 1722, Dwlee99 wrote:I am already voting Gera, Math
Then please focus conversation there.

We need to focus conversations where elims are happening.
I asked for a Carca refresher 20 minutes ago and didn't get one
I have been well versed in my Carca read and there was a beginning part of the day that was horrible for them when they kept pushing my Gamma read. It’s mainly I don’t think they’re scumhunting/townhunting.
Gamma did one thing in particular that pinged me pretty hard yesterday. During the MM buildup, he said MM/Dwlee were probably both scum together, but voted DWlee effectively as a countertrain to MM. If they're both scum together, why split your vote off?

I have almost no recollection of Gamma today, come to think of it, but I feel like you/Scorpious being scum together doesn't really make sense unless you're the type who will essentially double suicide gambit, and scum you doing this to protect town Scorpious is... Odd. So I'm just taking the scan at face value.
You seem new. Gamma doesn’t have a gun. This means Gamma is more than likely town given Titus claimed Doctor. It’s possible that Titus and Gamma could both be scum or Gamma scum Titus town but with the doctor claim I think Gamma is a hard inno. I would reconsider in elo but not before that.

3 is the standard meta. It town is OP traitors are possible but almost never 4.
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Post Post #1744 (ISO) » Wed May 18, 2022 7:07 am

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In post 1743, MathBlade wrote:
In post 1738, Crescent wrote:
In post 1733, MathBlade wrote:
In post 1727, Crescent wrote:
In post 1725, MathBlade wrote:
In post 1722, Dwlee99 wrote:I am already voting Gera, Math
Then please focus conversation there.

We need to focus conversations where elims are happening.
I asked for a Carca refresher 20 minutes ago and didn't get one
I have been well versed in my Carca read and there was a beginning part of the day that was horrible for them when they kept pushing my Gamma read. It’s mainly I don’t think they’re scumhunting/townhunting.
Gamma did one thing in particular that pinged me pretty hard yesterday. During the MM buildup, he said MM/Dwlee were probably both scum together, but voted DWlee effectively as a countertrain to MM. If they're both scum together, why split your vote off?

I have almost no recollection of Gamma today, come to think of it, but I feel like you/Scorpious being scum together doesn't really make sense unless you're the type who will essentially double suicide gambit, and scum you doing this to protect town Scorpious is... Odd. So I'm just taking the scan at face value.
You seem new. Gamma doesn’t have a gun. This means Gamma is more than likely town given Titus claimed Doctor. It’s possible that Titus and Gamma could both be scum or Gamma scum Titus town but with the doctor claim I think Gamma is a hard inno. I would reconsider in elo but not before that.

3 is the standard meta. It town is OP traitors are possible but almost never 4.
Oh I know what your scan is. It's why I'm leaving Gamma alone. I already said I'm taking the scan at face value.

I've never played on this forum before, but I can tell you I entered this game expecting 4 scum because from my personal experience, that's what 13 will have 80%-90% of the time unless there's an indy.

Like my last scum game we were 3/14. We knew immediately the game had an indy because 3/14 would never happen without one.
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Post Post #1745 (ISO) » Wed May 18, 2022 7:09 am

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In post 1741, Crescent wrote:
In post 1739, Gamma Emerald wrote:I’ve seen scum do some wild stuff
I wouldn’t write off scum all piling on a player as impossible
The way people seem to regard Titus it seems like something she might encourage a team of hers to do.

It's probably not as simple as just all 3 being scum though.

Oh speaking of that, the question was slipping my mind, but.. How does setup meta work here? People have generally been acting like it's specifically a 3-person scumteam.

With what I'm used to, 3 in 13 is possible, but 4 is more likely.
4 typically requires a large quantity of town power roles
I’ve seen it also balanced in a normal as have 2 groupscum and 2 traitors
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Post Post #1746 (ISO) » Wed May 18, 2022 7:11 am

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Ah. Here four is extreme. Different culture here.

Do your reads change assuming three scum?
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Post Post #1747 (ISO) » Wed May 18, 2022 7:13 am

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In post 1745, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 1741, Crescent wrote:
In post 1739, Gamma Emerald wrote:I’ve seen scum do some wild stuff
I wouldn’t write off scum all piling on a player as impossible
The way people seem to regard Titus it seems like something she might encourage a team of hers to do.

It's probably not as simple as just all 3 being scum though.

Oh speaking of that, the question was slipping my mind, but.. How does setup meta work here? People have generally been acting like it's specifically a 3-person scumteam.

With what I'm used to, 3 in 13 is possible, but 4 is more likely.
4 typically requires a large quantity of town power roles
I’ve seen it also balanced in a normal as have 2 groupscum and 2 traitors
The only time I can ever remember seeing traitor in a game of mafia was a game probably around 8 years ago (it's so long ago I can't even find the archive of it) before I even personally started playing. Scum is generally considered underpowered if under 25% of the playerbase unless scum is superpowered and town has little to none.

Yay different community metas~
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Post Post #1748 (ISO) » Wed May 18, 2022 7:14 am

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In post 1746, MathBlade wrote:Ah. Here four is extreme. Different culture here.

Do your reads change assuming three scum?
It's too early to form entire scumteams in my head right now, It just helps me properly read the game later to know.
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Post Post #1749 (ISO) » Wed May 18, 2022 7:16 am

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Also this has blown up into more of a distraction than I thought and we should probably move on from the topic.

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