Open 851: Would You Like To Be My Neighbor? | Game Over!

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VOTE: dv

you know why madame d.

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I think the strat this game is to keep the hoods under wraps while we can so mafia can't look for the FN. They are confirmable so no one would ever lie about them at any point

my thoughts on this boil down to:
- nobody should ever claim neighbor unless at e-1.
- town should always claim hood if their neighbor flips mafia.

anyone trying to go against this is just scum in my eyes.

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@anyone who voted yeet - mind explaining why you rvs voted yeet

i'd rather not have the game stall out in rvs, so i'm gonna get it started with this

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because none of the votes up until dv/stranger felt serious in any capacity?

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thinking about it some more - dv/stranger - what are you seeing in bulge?

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std any scumreads then?

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VOTE: bulge

i agree with the reasoning given so far. i don't think bulge has done anything substantial, and i think something like this will bring the game out of barely any posting.

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VOTE: Deasvail

why the switch to dv?

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e-1 without announcing it was accidental, but after i realized it, i went along with it because i thought it provides the following things:

1) if someone hammers without realizing it's e-1, then we have that discussion, and i genuinely believe town are more likely to

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quickhammer like that, so it might out a scum.
2) if someone calls out me for not announcing it's e-1, it comes with the point of "what do you think of that, and do you think it's scummier than what bulge has done thus far?" and provides content for the game.

@stranger - do you think std is more likely to flip scum than bulge then? and if so, what do you think of bulge?

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also the assertion i havent provided game related content is absurd. i have asked more game-relevant questions than probably anyone. and nobody is trying to engage with me, on or off wagon. feels like my wagon is nothing more than a device for scum to get past a slow-moving D1.

i can't tell if ur being serious about this, and if you are being serious, i want you to re-evaluate where your head is at currently, because it's not right

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1) if someone hammers without realizing it's e-1, then we have that discussion, and i genuinely believe town are more likely to not quickhammer like that, so it might out a scum.
2) if someone calls out me for not announcing it's e-1, it comes with the point of "what do you think of that, and do you think it's scummier than what bulge has done thus far?" and provides content for the game.

getting small pings of tmi on my slot from this.

what about this is tmi as well?

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I really like 79

Me too although I don't think I agree with the conclusion

what about the conclusion do you disagree with?

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i guess my problem is that i specifically said it wasn't a strong read, so you can see why i might not want to be at E-1 with someone so early in the game. with that knowledge, why leave my vote to see what happens when people lolhammer all the time

we're about halfway through the day, so i don't really see the reason behind not wanting someone at e-1, in an already slow game.

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honestly i think mostly everyone’s who’s posting thus far, (stranger, std, dv), are town.

@mala - do you have any other thoughts than what you replied to or no?

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yea, but i don't think it's dv/stranger.

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very tl;dr:

i don't think scum are going to stick their neck out and make some weird push like that in a slow-moving game, when they can just sit in hoods and scum pts and y'know, not really do anything? i'd expect it within the first 24-48 hours, but not outside of that, if the game is still slow-moving.
i think dv's posting makes sense from a townie pov, and i like it more than just going "yea dv's scum for this" especially after dv said that they can't fault you for thinking they're scum since that's what they'd be doing as scum. i don't think scum are going to be

that

openly honest about something like that?

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very tl;dr:

i don't think scum are going to stick their neck out and make some weird push like that in a slow-moving game, when they can just sit in hoods and scum pts and y'know, not really do anything? i'd expect it within the first 24-48 hours, but not outside of that, if the game is still slow-moving.
i think dv's posting makes sense from a townie pov, and i like it more than just going "yea dv's scum for this" especially after dv said that he can't fault you for thinking he's scum since that's what he'd be doing as scum. i don't think scum are going to be

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ebwop

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what's the takeaway if that's the case then?

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what's the takeaway if that's the case then?

that you are dv's partner

not really what i meant, but i can't think of the proper phrasing, so i'll return to that later.

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also the assertion i havent provided game related content is absurd. i have asked more game-relevant questions than probably anyone. and nobody is trying to engage with me, on or off wagon. feels like my wagon is nothing more than a device for scum to get past a slow-moving D1.

i can't tell if ur being serious about this, and if you are being serious, i want you to re-evaluate where your head is at currently, because it's not right

i dont like this response at all, its vague, feels very dismissive, almost gaslight-y lol like yeesh ok sorry for disturbing the narrative that i provided no content early on. blah

ok let's look at all the questions that have been asked since post 0 all the way up to post 89 in this thread from me and you, and we'll let everyone else decide if you've provided more game-relevant questions up to the point you asked that, or if i have.

Spoiler: me

@anyone who voted yeet - mind explaining why you rvs voted yeet

i'd rather not have the game stall out in rvs, so i'm gonna get it started with this

thinking about it some more - dv/stranger - what are you seeing in bulge?

std any scumreads then?

VOTE: Deasvail

why the switch to dv?

e-1 without announcing it was accidental, but after i realized it, i went along with it because i thought it provides the following things:

1) if someone hammers without realizing it's e-1, then we have that discussion, and i genuinely believe town are more likely to

not

quickhammer like that, so it might out a scum.
2) if someone calls out me for not announcing it's e-1, it comes with the point of "what do you think of that, and do you think it's scummier than what bulge has done thus far?" and provides content for the game.

@stranger - do you think std is more likely to flip scum than bulge then? and if so, what do you think of bulge?

Spoiler: you

Everything I see this game I'm like " ah yes, the one with the serial killer"

Anyone have a clue why

huh?

@anyone who voted yeet - mind explaining why you rvs voted yeet

i'd rather not have the game stall out in rvs, so i'm gonna get it started with this

cuz there was already a vote there

why are you asking for reasons behind rvs votes and not for any serious votes?

any thoughts on mala so far?

are you an alt?

i agree with others re: bulge but it's not really a strong read

agree on what

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1) if someone hammers without realizing it's e-1, then we have that discussion, and i genuinely believe town are more likely to not quickhammer like that, so it might out a scum.
2) if someone calls out me for not announcing it's e-1, it comes with the point of "what do you think of that, and do you think it's scummier than what bulge has done thus far?" and provides content for the game.

getting small pings of tmi on my slot from this.

what about this is tmi as well?

number 1 especially seems to presume that I am town. also the whole post is just kinda unnecessary and comes off looking like you're trying to prove you have townie thought processes.

wow, it's almost like there are two options for what you flip in this game: town or scum.
and wow, it's almost like in those two options i provided, there's one scenario where you flip town and one where it's debatable what you flip.
do you have anything else you wanna deeply read into and not actually provide anything useful from?

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ur not really doing anything that makes me change my mind of you bulge, and honestly, i think you're just the better elim today no matter what

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cool, meg why are you sheeping bulge here?

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for sake of my sanity too, i’m just going to ignore bulge. bulge is blatantly acting scummy and interacting *solely* with me. we need to pick someone to kill since deadline is soon, and i genuinely think it’s bulge here.

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if nobody wants to go bulge, then we have about half the game that hasn’t posted in about a day, and probably a smaller portion that has done jackshit so far in this game that i’d just be happy to compromise on so that way maybe this game picks up some activity

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@mod could we get a vc and prods

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ty dk <3

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what about me do you think is a better counterwagon to bulge?

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@bulge - claim

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also

@bella - how close to deadline will you be around for? i.e., how long can we wait for a claim and you can still hammer?

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titus - read bulge's stuff and tell me if you think bulge is genuinely town, because right now, it makes you look like scum since i'm utterly convinced bulge has to be scum.

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@titus - or i think ur scum cuz i’m pretty sure bulge is scum because nothing bulge has done is townie, and you replace in, skim and go “yea bulge is town” like, what do you want me to say?

@bulge we’re expecting your role and unless you claim friendly neighbor, who you’re in a hood with

i think the solve is literally just bulge/titus though

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no because you’re scum

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i just find it especially weird that you disappear once a wagon gets going on you, comes back shortly after deadline is extended, and a replacement just starts hardcore defending you and going at me being scum.

so fmpov, you and titus are together, so you can die.

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i can believe it. i still think bulge is scum, but titus’s entry was scummier

VOTE: titus

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before i forget as well -

@mod - v/la from tomorrow till sunday

i’ll be moving soon

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still moving; acknowledging i’m alive.
bulge probably just town imo

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some small thoughts as i lay in bed:
@meg - why those two people? i can see bella, but sell me on stranger
@stranger - i skimmed your post, do you think mala is scum then?
@bella - why is meg scum pool bad mainly from proposed stranger!scum and not you!scum?
@mala - that’s a bad take with there being a flipped scum, me v bulge d1, wagon off bulge by dv, and just going “yea based off me hydraing with titus, scum!titus might do this” - think of something more
@dv - I don’t have anything i wanna say to you really; i think you’re just town here and that’s about all i got

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also

@mod - idk if i said v/la until today, but i will be v/la today too

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VOTE: mala

i think this is where i wanna go for now

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take right now - bella isn’t scum as well. i don’t think scum!bella is the type of person to fake forgetting fenrir died

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meg do you think bella fakes not remembering std is dead town?
bulge - why are you unsure of dv!town?

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i actually just think it’s between {mala, meg} atm.

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yea but i can't read meg and i think meg is a very strong scumplayer, so for that reason alone, meg remains in the pool

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thats a cop out

lloll

i mean, i just know meg is strong, and that’s all the reason i really need to say “i think you still could be scum here”?

like not really a copout?

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Caveat that id still rather do meg, but this is my intent to hammer.

i still prefer mala today, and meg tomorrow

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so, thought right here - the last scum is probably within the surviving hood, right?

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i'm not entirely convinced it's not stranger, but i think stranger is good to survive another day here maybe?

bulge i think is confirmed town regardless.

bella i have a suspicion is town, but i don't wanna elaborate on why i think bella is town here.

and meg is just... meg. i don't know how to read meg, and i really can't be bothered to read meg in the first place.

and i know i'm town.

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@someone who can read meg - is meg town

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i never shoot my hood partner here since dv was genuinely tring me this entire time, and i know dv is not the fn.
i think it could be stranger!scum here but that's mostly because of dv saying in the hood that he doesn't really think stranger is town, and was getting weird pings, but i think stranger can get a pass for today.
so, that means that it's whoever you're with has to be the last scum, or it's stranger.

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@stranger - mostly what i could gather is that it seems like what you were saying felt more like performance to dv, (and to a lesser extent me.) more so trying to just say a lot of words to make it seem like you're townie rather than actually doing anything substantial. dv did later admit that he was getting paranoid, but like, i still think it's somewhat useful?

@bella - me and dv thought that it's unlikely that scum!you fakes forgetting you killed std, which eliminates you from the pool.
bulge i think is just townie because of how titus came into the game and instantly started defending bulge and pushing me.
mala was not doing anything helpful, and just kinda rolled over and died when it came to that point.
meg i simply cannot read, so meg will always remain in a scumpool because meg is just a strong scum player.

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@stranger

- mostly what i could gather is that it seems like what you were saying felt more like performance to dv, (and to a lesser extent me.) more so trying to just say a lot of words to make it seem like you're townie rather than actually doing anything substantial. dv did later admit that he was getting paranoid, but like, i still think it's somewhat useful?

@bella

- me and dv thought that it's unlikely that scum!you fakes forgetting you killed std, which eliminates you from the pool.
bulge i think is just townie because of how titus came into the game and instantly started defending bulge and pushing me.
mala was not doing anything helpful, and just kinda rolled over and died when it came to that point.
meg i simply cannot read, so meg will always remain in a scumpool because meg is just a strong scum player.

ebwop

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Why is bulge conftown? @vex

1) dv thought in hood bulge wouldn’t flip town
2) why does a scum partner come in with such little time left in day and try to change the wagon, especially when yeet didn’t really do a whole lot and it’d be easier to just go “alright yea you’re just gonna have to die?” like, it feels more likely titus wanted to set up for pocketing bulge?

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Why is bulge conftown? @vex

1) dv thought in hood bulge wouldn’t flip scum
2) why does a scum partner come in with such little time left in day and try to change the wagon, especially when yeet didn’t really do a whole lot and it’d be easier to just go “alright yea you’re just gonna have to die?” like, it feels more likely titus wanted to set up for pocketing bulge?

ebwop; currently on phone just after waking up

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@stranger - mostly what i could gather is that it seems like what you were saying felt more like performance to dv, (and to a lesser extent me.) more so trying to just say a lot of words to make it seem like you're townie rather than actually doing anything substantial. dv did later admit that he was getting paranoid, but like, i still think it's somewhat useful?

Could you point out examples of this, please?

I know I have a tendency to pad and ramble but... I feel like everything that I've said in this game is more than just words and has a purpose? I'm reading back through my own ISO now and I'm not really... understanding where you're coming from with this.

(And sorry for the late reply, I... kind of forgot about this game.)

79, 113, 117, 283, 356

granted, i think a bit of it is also dyslexia makes me not want to read large chunks of text, so i mostly skim over them, or just go "yea this is a long bit of text that could probably be surmized in a shorter way" but reading through some of them a little more slowly, i still think they could be shortened a bit, but i'm less convinced on "it's just words to say words" type thing.

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why bella?

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alright i can see that.

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ok i’m going to go back and read, but i genuinely think it’s just bulge here from the ending of d3.

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post 82 is my own, what was your question

also, it makes so much more sense in my mind to have scum!you versus scum!stranger. like, yea, i can see scum!stranger, but like, titus's play doesn't make sense to me unless it was an attempt to try to save you, unless it was some really weird pocketing attempt on her behalf?

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most of what dv had to say was in thread anyways. i'll reread the hood and see if dv thought anything, but i'm right now leaning towards you for the sole reason of - it just makes more sense to me.

but maybe the reread will change that. i'm gonna dedicate tomorrow after my job interviews and stuff to do that.

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ig? i mean, fmpov there's only two outcomes for what you are - so ig that makes sense for whoever wrote that when we posted it.

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options, bella's opinion, and titus interaction

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i don't like how bulge pushed so heavily on bella, but i like it even less considering i said that i thought bella was town.

the reason for thinking bella was town was because i thought bella was the fn.
bella wasn't, but it was still backed up by the thought of scum!bella isn't gonna fake misremembering killing std.

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i think i’m just ready to vote and end the game tbh

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mmm.

that's interesting now.

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i'm not hammering yet now tbh.

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i wanna vote you bulge because your stances have made little sense, but i'm gonna think it over on whether it's more likely to be you or stranger.

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i'll wait until later tonight for you to weigh in stranger.

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VOTE: bulge

cool, sorry if you were town bulge, everything d1 onwards felt so fucking weird to me

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ok that's fair ig. i didn't really care towards the end, and i genuinely thought that was super scummy at the end regardless.

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literally as well, had you not done the thing of "i don't care anymore" i probably would've voted stranger