Open 850: Democrabilities (Postgame)

[Dunnstral]

Every person who has died has voted for furtive at some point

[furtiveglance]

The thread reopened, cool.
I understand that I'll be under suspicion today, I'll do my best to survive today and lead town to a successful elimination.
I thought Flea was a bit suspicious, but I suppose they were townier at the end of d1 when mafia chose the kill.
I'm sure Radical Rat will have something to say post-game and I admit I've played pretty badly in leading their miselim, but apart from that I don't think I've been far off the scumteam.

[Alianna]

@mod

Thread title still says it's Day 2.

[furtiveglance]

I already thought Malcolm was town, and I still think Goldfish is town even though they the confirm is one-way.

That leaves [Alianna, Dunnstral, Cat.Jpeg].

I can see either Alianna or Cat being town, so Dunnstral is mafia in either scenario. I'll probably push Dunnstral today.

[furtiveglance]

Hello Alianna, shall we do some real time interaction?

1) Do you buy that Goldfish is telling the truth?

2) What do you think of a Dunnstral/Cat.Jpeg team?

3) What are your thoughts on who we should track today?

[furtiveglance]

Three things.

1. We’re screwed.
2. Goldie, results?
3. furtive, you have some

explaining

to do.

I don't think we're necessarily screwed. As for my explaining, go back and read my scumcase of Radical Rat. Their reads changed and I couldn't see a natural thought progression, I thought they were mafia. That's the only time I've been wrong so far, I was right on Titus and townread Flea (mostly).

[furtiveglance]

Three things.

1. We’re screwed.
2. Goldie, results?
3. furtive, you have some

explaining

to do.

1. Yes
2. I'm delighted to inform you all that Malcomtucker is aligned with the town. He's officially the only person I trust now.
3. Furtive I wanna here this. Have you betrayed our townblock?


This track ability is kinda weird because we are meant to use it to find scum but considering it's el/melo we don't want to track a player we think is scum we want to eliminate them immediately.

You have a scumpool of 4. [Alianna, Dunnstral, Cat.Jpeg, Me].

All game I have aligned myself with you, Malcolm and Flea. For me to be scum I'd have to have scumread my partner quite hard throughout the game (with the exception of Cat whom I did lean town on yesterday, because they were also scumreading the other people in my scumpool at the time and seemed to have similar thoughts).

[furtiveglance]

Every person who has died has voted for furtive at some point

So you think I killed Titus pre-game knowing they would vote for me Day 1, and killed Flea Night 1 knowing they would vote for me Day 2?

[Cat.Jpeg]

I'm delighted to inform you all that Malcomtucker is aligned with the town.

I don't know if I trust this.

[Alianna]

Hello Alianna, shall we do some real time interaction?

1) Do you buy that Goldfish is telling the truth?

2) What do you think of a Dunnstral/Cat.Jpeg team?

3) What are your thoughts on who we should track today?

Apologies that I didn't get back to you in "real time."

1. I do. Malcolm is only scum if Goldie is scum with him. I just don't think so. Goldie is painfully innocent and I really hope I'm not getting pocketed.

2. I'm just going to colour-code these so I don't have to say who posted every time. I'm too lazy to multiquote. References to Dunn's posts are red, Cat's are purple.

82 looks like an awkward attempt at distancing.

148 is the justification for a vote on Cat and is a false accusation (which I pointed out). Idk if scum would falsely accuse their partner.

Disagreement on Dunn's math is NAI.

306 is not an interaction with Dunn but it’s here for context. This looks like a POV slip that implicates you and Cat.

307 is where Dunn catches it. Looks even less like Dunn/Cat now.

353 turns around onto Dunn.

It would be really weird for both scumbuddies to vote themselves at the beginning of D2. Neither was in a position to vote the other. I don’t think a Cat/Dunn scumteam would choose Inform knowing that.
Nothing notable in elimination phase D2.

So no, I do not see a Cat/Dunn scumteam.

3. I'm not quite there yet.

[Alianna]

I'm delighted to inform you all that Malcomtucker is aligned with the town.

I don't know if I trust this.

I don’t know if I trust you.

[Alianna]

Actually, since my PoE is Cat/furtive/Dunn and Cat/Dunn isn’t really a thing, that means it’s furtive either way. And furtive/Dunn would be pretty crazy.
So I think I want to eliminate furtive and VOTE: Cat.Jpeg to be tracked.
Unless Goldie is pocketing me. Still going to park my vote there for now though.

[furtiveglance]

If you want to eliminate me, the game ends. Scum won't have put me as the nightkill because I'm the most likely miselimination today.

[Alianna]

If you want to eliminate me, the game ends. Scum won't have put me as the nightkill because I'm the most likely miselimination today.

I mean, we’re not trying to hit the NK target. We’re more likely to hit scum and we gain way more from it.
“The game ends” doesn’t really mean anything. Anyone could say that.

[Alianna]

I would predict that Goldie is the target.

[Alianna]

It has nothing to do with her being informed, she’s just a UTR.

[Dunnstral]

VOTE: Cat.jpeg

[GoldfishFromTheMoon]

It feels like this wagon is growing way too quickly but I also think we should track cat.

If we live through today (by eliminating a scum) the track ability will either give us a scum or a confirmed innocent. I think cat would be one of the more useful people to have a confirmed innocent on.

[GoldfishFromTheMoon]

I would predict that Goldie is the target.

Me too. I'm definitely going to die tonight.

[Alianna]

It feels like this wagon is growing way too quickly

What do you mean by this?

[GoldfishFromTheMoon]

Just generally like the wagon building up and going through right at the beginning of the day before we've had much discussion and people haven't contributed yet. But I guess that's just what happens when its later in the game with less players alive so it doesn't take as many votes to get something through.

[furtiveglance]

I don't really care who gets tracked, Cat is probably fine. My worry is that people won't want to vote for someone who we're tracking, so we're kind of giving a sus player (sus enough that we track them) immunity from being voted in Elo, which seems dumb.

[furtiveglance]

The more important thing is the elimination.

[GoldfishFromTheMoon]

I'm going to go ahead and VOTE: cat.jpeg

I'm doing this is because I townread them and I want the confirmed innocent rather than because think they are sus.

[Alianna]

Just generally like the wagon building up and going through right at the beginning of the day before we've had much discussion and people haven't contributed yet. But I guess that's just what happens when its later in the game with less players alive so it doesn't take as many votes to get something through.

Ok, makes sense. I don’t think we should rush to hammer this, we should ideally get a decent idea of who we’re eliminating before we finalize our track target.