Mewbie 2094 -- GAME OVER

[catboi]

want it in plain words so there is no ambiguity

[Cat.Jpeg]

okay

do you have thoughts on syugar hammering after i said i wanted to wait for t02

When I first read that post I didn't realise you were saying Take as in Takemikazuchi02 i thought you were saying take, the english word, so I was kinda confused. Maybe that's what happened to Syugar too.

I feel like it's easy to see what you want to in this situation though because you could argue that the change in GM's reads is too blatant for them to be partners, maybe a misdirect, and that even though GM was gonna die anyway partnered syugar would want hold off voting for them, or at least not just come into the thread, hammer, then leave.

[catboi]

@take -

please state your target for tonight if goodmorning is mafia in clear terms. I don't know how long until mala gets on and locks the thread and I don't want uncertainty

[Cat.Jpeg]

Yea, if GM's red and you die we need a clear.

[syugar]

if this reds jail syugar please

if it's town decide at random

thats a complete waste, what

if that happens im just going to elim you

[syugar]

cannot express regardless of your dissatisfaction with the game how suspect it is to hammer before letting the conftown post again

I said I was hammering in 20 hours. We're just sitting here pointlessly

He already said he was jailing cat jpeg

[Takemikazuchi02]

Like I said. Its gonna be cat.jpeg

[Takemikazuchi02]

IF gm is maf that is

[syugar]

Like I said. Its gonna be cat.jpeg

What else did you want to talk about today?

[catboi]

cannot express regardless of your dissatisfaction with the game how suspect it is to hammer before letting the conftown post again

I said I was hammering in 20 hours. We're just sitting here pointlessly

He already said he was jailing cat jpeg

I just wanted the confirmation

[Takemikazuchi02]

I think there is one maf between gm and catboi.

[Malakittens]

Votecount 3.06

syugar: (1) goodmorning
goodmorning: (4) cat.jpeg, Takemikazuchi02, Lukewarm, syugar


Not Voting (2): bellaphant, catboi

With 7 alive it takes 4 to Eliminate.

Day 3 deadline is in (expired on 2022-05-27 07:32:00)

An elimination has been made.

Goodmorning was a

mafia goon

.

Night will be in 48 hours.

If everyone wants a fast night we can. Everyone has to agree tho.

I’ll edit this in the morning.

[Malakittens]

Takemikazuchi02 was forced to walk the plank. He was a

Town Jailkeeper.

Votecount 4.00

Not Voting (5): bellaphant, catboi, Lukewarm, syugar, cat.jpeg

With 5 alive it takes 3 to Eliminate.

Day 4 deadline is in (expired on 2022-06-03 01:30:00)

[catboi]

classic game where I'm onto scum early then talk myself out of it for 2 days

VOTE: lukewarm

I did a little rereading during the night. I think my reasons for un-aligning him with goodmorning were poor in hindsight. I think that both jailkeeper targets were plausibly saves, and I think both displayed a believable level of paranoia yesterday that is more likely to come from town.

[Lukewarm]

I am... surprised. This is the least likely scenario I was expecting coming into today.

Over night, I was thinking that even if jpeg was town, that the remaining scum would probably no kill to try and fake the guilty here.

[Lukewarm]

An inno on jpeg is pertty good for us imo. I think we would have miselimed them at some point for sure this game.

Then they would just need to angle out a single miselim in (me, catboi, bella, syugar) But, with an inno on jpeg, now they have to get two miselims in that list.

Like, this basically bought us an extra miselim

[Lukewarm]

My gut reaction is to omgus catboi, but also because he seems to have that angle to push me ready to go, when for all we knew there was not going to be a kill.

[Lukewarm]

Actually, I don't know that scum!boi would be so blatant with it tho?

[Bellaphant]

Well I know who's entrance to today I like more!

[Lukewarm]

laying in bed thinking about this game - I actually dont think it can be catboi

[Bellaphant]

...but If it's not catboi, and you know it can't be you, and catjpeg is clear then it has to me or syugar from your pov. What sounds more likely?

I don't think it's you. I think it /could/ be catboi. I felt day two I was agreeing with syugar a lot, but maybe I have given them a too easy pass.

[Lukewarm]

it has to me or syugar from your pov. What sounds more likely?.

I don't know, that's the problem. I will need to reread the two of you sometime that it is not 4:30 am.

But I was thinking about how day 2 played out, and I am really struggling to see that come from partnered gm and catboi.

His literal first post of day 2 was advocating strongly for a mass claim, specifically in a way that would appeal to me (by referencing a conversation he knew I had with LLD), and then he proceeded to argue why he thought it was the best move.

And gm was then The Reason the massclaim didn't happen, both by arguing against it and then refusing to do it when we started.

This is such a specific dissonance that I don't see them together. To be clear it is not just because they disagreed, that was the fact that the entire idea came from catboi, so I don't think this would apply to anyone else (including me).

Like how would that scum team have gotten there? Did they not talk at all? This doesn't match what I've seen of catboi in scum chats - when I read his scum chat for fgo, I felt like there was a lot of collaboration and suggestions to his partners.

He argued for it too much if he didn't actually want it to happen, and GM argued against it too hard if they actually did want it to happen

Is it a scum team that thought the mass claim would help them? GM's play makes no sense
Was it a scum team that thought the mass claim would hurt them? Catbois play makes no sense

That would just leave a team that thought it wouldn't matter either way, but then I don't think catboi leads with it and keeps arguing for it when there is push back.

I just can't see it

[Bellaphant]

There have been little bits in catbois play that seem off to me - a bit of tone, a bit of white knighting, etc., But I think I'm getting paranoid about stuff that is playstyle.

In terms of cold hard play - GM pushed on them way too hard, the mass claim, the way he interacted with you when you had the same reaction to to2's 'scum is in here', just seem really town.

I've also basically cleared you in my head because of that interaction with to2, as it was so similar to my feelings Ans then you descalated. I guess scum you has no choice, but tonally, eh

I also think scum!you has half a shot at getting catboi mis elimed with me and catjpeg, so this feels very counterintuitive.

I'm talking myself into syugae being scum by Poe.

[Bellaphant]

I scumread bella because of process of elimination. She and GM are the only people who dont seem towny to me. There's not a lot I can point to and say look at how scummy this is but theres also nothing that I feel she would say only as town and not as scum. Thats why I asked people why they townread bella but no one responded. I also scumread her as shes the only person I can partnered with GM. I scumread GM more than anyone right now though.

fwiw if you somehow get JK cleared tonight I'm willing to reconsider my Bella read, I'm running out of ideas.

This was a.red flag yesterday though.

An inno on jpeg is such a good thing though, thanks to2

[Bellaphant]

@catboi, why Luke over syugae? Considering your reaction to the hammer.