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Post Post #825 (ISO) » Tue May 31, 2022 10:20 pm

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Though there were 4 votes on elsa
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Post Post #826 (ISO) » Tue May 31, 2022 10:24 pm

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elsa is gamma, VD is not gamma or Elsa. I was scum reading both VD and Gamma. Never was any traction on VD so I stopped vanity voting and started consolidating on Gamma/Elsa
Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.

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Post Post #827 (ISO) » Tue May 31, 2022 10:26 pm

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VD's take is very weird and bad. I'm not sure if it's real.
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Post Post #828 (ISO) » Tue May 31, 2022 10:28 pm

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In post 826, Nero Cain wrote:elsa is gamma, VD is not gamma or Elsa. I was scum reading both VD and Gamma. Never was any traction on VD so I stopped vanity voting and started consolidating on Gamma/Elsa
ah, im confused, now i get it, sorry
i'm working, so i'm not focused
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Post Post #829 (ISO) » Tue May 31, 2022 10:32 pm

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wait, i've got it right first time. you have 2 scums, and you've claimed pr voting gamma, but you was talking about vd... well, doesnt matter, but he is right that you was using pr claim to elim anyone of them... i have no opinion is it scummy ir not (i guess it is just trash-time, jokes)
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Post Post #830 (ISO) » Tue May 31, 2022 10:33 pm

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Day 4 of IVD talking himself into holes.

Elsa's luck with red role pms is unfortunate but a vague pr claim isn't enough enough to move me anywhere that isn't a dann (Titus) wagon.

Especially considering Elsa will claim as any alignment any role.

*I was joking about miller.
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Post Post #831 (ISO) » Tue May 31, 2022 10:38 pm

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In post 218, schadd_ wrote:ItalianoVD (2): Gamma Emerald, Nero Cain
In post 345, schadd_ wrote:ItalianoVD (1): Nero Cain
In post 459, schadd_ wrote:ItalianoVD (1): Nero Cain
In post 577, schadd_ wrote:ItalianoVD (2): Nero Cain, Not Known 15
In post 695, schadd_ wrote:ItalianoVD (1): RCEnigma
like look at these fucking mighty VD wagons. I had forgotten about all this momentum. I think VD has convinced me that I'm scummy for leaving that.
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Post Post #832 (ISO) » Tue May 31, 2022 10:42 pm

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Also, Elsa claimed b/c he's going to be the days wagon and he knows that a pr claim is the only way that he might be able to get out of it.

@over90
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Post Post #833 (ISO) » Tue May 31, 2022 10:44 pm

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In post 822, Nero Cain wrote:I think that's a horrible transcript of the thread.

I mean it's not like there was a big wagon on you and I jumped off, it was that there was NO traction on you and then I said that it's going to take a guilty to get you out and then I consolidated on Gamma.
Lol and then when there’s no guilty, what you gonna claim, that you were roleblocked or that some other shenanigans happened.
I wonder if MH coached Italiano at all or if that was just rock solid scum play start to finish.
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Post Post #834 (ISO) » Tue May 31, 2022 10:48 pm

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In post 792, Nero Cain wrote:I think Kitty is Russian Oprah

You get a tone read, you get a tone read,
EVERYONE GETS A TONE READ!
Look, that's how I townhunt. It's really hard for me to actually find concrete evidence for someone being town (barring, obviously, mechanical clears). For scumhunting it's easier to at least point to a gross post.
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In post 791, KittyTacky wrote:Not really any specific posts, it's a tonal read, if not a very strong one.
gamma? not elsa? strange
Well my read started with Gamma. I'll use Elsa in the future of course.
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What do you guys think of Nero claiming pr only
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there wasn’t traction on me and claimed he will check me?

What do you think of over90’s presence in the game?

What do you think of DeasVail? Now or still?

When you guys get the chance of course.
1. Did he just simply claim "PR"? Soft claims are anti-town. They're not scummy per se, but if you're going to make yourself a target (by the virtue of simply being a PR), cough up your whole role so we townies get more info. Scum only needs to know that someone is
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Post Post #835 (ISO) » Tue May 31, 2022 10:59 pm

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In post 834, KittyTacky wrote:Look, that's how I townhunt.
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TBF, was meant more as a joke than a criticism. But I do lowkey feel like "townhunting" is a pretty likely claim to come from scum.
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Post Post #836 (ISO) » Wed Jun 01, 2022 12:53 am

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In post 835, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 834, KittyTacky wrote:Look, that's how I townhunt.
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TBF, was meant more as a joke than a criticism. But I do lowkey feel like "townhunting" is a pretty likely claim to come from scum.
Well I am telling the truth, that's my town playstyle, I do a lot of gut reads.
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Post Post #837 (ISO) » Wed Jun 01, 2022 1:23 am

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What is your scum playstyle then
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Post Post #838 (ISO) » Wed Jun 01, 2022 1:24 am

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I also claimed that I'm not a VT, why aren't people talking about me huh?

Also VD, can you break down for me why Nero is scum? Give me your absolute most convincing sell.

Because I am very much not convinced. If there were a 1v1 between you and Nero, I'd kill you every time.
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Post Post #839 (ISO) » Wed Jun 01, 2022 1:25 am

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Eh I think Kitty is town.

Sorry for suspecting you earlier Kitty
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Post Post #840 (ISO) » Wed Jun 01, 2022 1:25 am

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In post 838, DeasVail wrote:I also claimed that I'm not a VT, why aren't people talking about me huh?

Also VD, can you break down for me why Nero is scum? Give me your absolute most convincing sell.

Because I am very much not convinced. If there were a 1v1 between you and Nero, I'd kill you every time.
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Post Post #841 (ISO) » Wed Jun 01, 2022 1:58 am

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Why are people claiming VT or not VT?
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Post Post #842 (ISO) » Wed Jun 01, 2022 2:06 am

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In post 841, Titus wrote:Why are people claiming VT or not VT?
WHY NOT
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Post Post #843 (ISO) » Wed Jun 01, 2022 2:07 am

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In post 842, Enchant wrote:
In post 841, Titus wrote:Why are people claiming VT or not VT?
WHY NOT
Day 1...
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Post Post #844 (ISO) » Wed Jun 01, 2022 2:07 am

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Ok and
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Post Post #845 (ISO) » Wed Jun 01, 2022 2:08 am

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Btw 1 post in, Enchant is likely town
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Post Post #846 (ISO) » Wed Jun 01, 2022 2:09 am

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we will hang all ppl who are not vt and we will win
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Post Post #847 (ISO) » Wed Jun 01, 2022 2:12 am

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In post 846, Vasex wrote:we will hang all ppl who are not vt and we will win
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Post Post #848 (ISO) » Wed Jun 01, 2022 2:32 am

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In post 846, Vasex wrote:we will hang all ppl who are not vt and we will win
We won't hang anybody! You maniac! :mad:

sorry

So what we are doing? I dont want to elim ppl who are rather active.
Cakez and some not active ppl are good targets... maybe i also dont want elim bosco, im not sure about her at all, too difficult
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Post Post #849 (ISO) » Wed Jun 01, 2022 3:24 am

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In post 830, RCEnigma wrote:Day 4 of IVD talking himself into holes.

Elsa's luck with red role pms is unfortunate but a vague pr claim isn't enough enough to move me anywhere that isn't a dann (Titus) wagon.

Especially considering Elsa will claim as any alignment any role.

*I was joking about miller.

Bleh. You can at least give me one game day to actually play tho. I'm trying to solve something that my role implied. And I'm not fake claiming this first game back.
Nero Cain wrote:Also, Elsa claimed b/c he's going to be the days wagon and he knows that a pr claim is the only way that he might be able to get out of it.

@over90
I thought I already told you why I actually claimed. I don't wait until I'm at hammer because I know my reputation with some people with still get me killed for "fake claiming" so late. Better that I'm getting it out of the way now so I can explain myself later.

It's not like I don't know I'm naturally scummy, but you've played with me before too. I ask questions nobody elsa will and I actually contribute when asked. I don't lurk, and I do genuinely care about the gamestate.

Sure I'm a cop check when necessary and I'm honestly wondering why people ignore me so much, but getting rid of me day 1 is never a good option. And if it's about Gamma being here I assure you I've replaced town him in the past as well. Town Creature, as well, now that I think about it.
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