vollkan - 4: Xtoxm, orangepenguin, Riceballtail, mrfixij
G-Force - 1: curiouskarmadog
orangepenguin - 1: babygirl86
PyroDwarf - 1: bionicchop2
mrfixij - 1: G-Force
Not voting: Rhinox, Scheherazade, PyroDwarf, Erratus Apathos
7 votes will lynch.
bionicchop2 wrote: for sure unvote:pyro ; vote:vollkan.
Obviously you will be given a chance to say what you can to try to salvage the day for yourself. 2 links of examples where she quit as scum when there was heat put on her is pretty damning.
Um... please point out where I speculated on the setup... unless you consider investigating the idea that orange could be an sk - which I don't feel is out of line considering his claim - I don't believe I have. Is there a reason you want to misrepresent me? Is there a reason we shouldn't consider the fact that orange might not be able to prove his role (which means he could very well be an sk and we'd never know)?mrfixij wrote:Rhinox I've noticed did some speculating on the setup of the game, which is something I never advocate. Any suspicion I would have on him would be based solely on policy though, which I'm trying to cut down on after being called out for it in several other games.
The only issue that was relevant at the time was sche's "if I were scum" comment. It led to the bandwagon being built up on sche.volkan wrote: 43: Interesting. Rhinox's first post is big but only deals with the above "if I were scum" issue which, since it is pure theory, I don't want to go into. However,he makes no comment on anything else that actually is relevant.This raises the concern that he is avoiding controversy, but I'll wait and see for more evidence before making judgment.
Zounds! Not a single vote on BG. In fact, we even get this little exchange just before she replaces out:Mod from Amish wrote: Mellowed Man: babygirl86, riceballtail, Celebloki, Mr. Incrediball
riceballtail: Surye
Alabaska J: Marmalade, evilgorrilaz, Mellowed Man, Battle Mage
Evilgorrilaz: Alabaska J
Battle Mage: The Fonz
Not voting: Killa Seven, nswhorse, Inquisitor JL, Rigel, DizzyIzzyB13, q21
Now, one player than suggested, as has essentially been done here, that:MellowedMan wrote:Jesus Christ. That same attitude, and you're not even under any pressure! I hate your playstyleBG wrote: A) you must not know how to read because I've explained my actions numerous times. and B) I'm not gonna say this is right, but I'm definately not the only person not posting here so dont even go there. I have a life outside of mafia and if my amount of posting isn't up to your standards, deal with it. I'm not changing my lifestyle to get a vote taken off of me.
More on the incorrectness of that later.Dizzy wrote: Classic "scum giving up after failing to lurk to victory".
Again, nothing on BG. She was being heavily (and justifiably) criticised for being a crap player BUT not suspected.Mod from Family Guy wrote: vote count:
reborn537 2 votes: (LlamaFluff, Save the Dragons)
LlamaFluff 1 votes: (reborn537)
Inspector Godot 1 vote: (RestFermata)
thinktank 2 vote: (Inspector Godot, babygirl)
Elvis_Knits 1 vote (xtoxm)
Not voting:
Elvis_Knits
kmd4390
GhostWriter
kloud1516
With 12 people it take 7 votes for lynch
Day 1 ends August 28th, 4:00pm PST
"heat put on her"? Really? Because, from where I am sitting, there was very little suspicion on her in both of those games and her quitting basically just reflects her laziness and inability to read up. It spins a nice story to make out she cracks under pressure, but you ignore all facts.bionicchop2 wrote:for sureunvote:pyro ; vote:vollkan.
Obviously you will be given a chance to say what you can to try to salvage the day for yourself. 2 links of examples where she quit as scum when there was heat put on her is pretty damning.
You neglect to mention that she made a grand total of 12 posts in PYP3. None of them was over 3 lines long and her play was still poor standard.Xtoxm wrote: Her play corroborates game I played with her as scum (Family Guy) and contradicts her play as town in a game I played with her (PYP3).
I'm happy to claim, but I refuse to do so until people have a look at what I have said. I have the distinct impression that none of you have given two seconds thought to the broader picture here and are drawing general conclusions about what BG does as scum based on just two games whilst ignoring her play more widely. Since I think my argument is strong, and you have certainly not dented it one iota, I don't think a claim is warranted from me at this stage.Xtoxm wrote: Volkan, what is your claim?
Do any of your links contain games where she quit as town? I already knew she was a poor player and I don't care to read more examples of her playing poorly. It is the quitting whenever she is not town and somebody puts heat on her (yes you can have heat without votes).vollkan wrote:I have the distinct impression that none of you have given two seconds thought to the broader picture here and are drawing general conclusions about what BG does as scum based on just two games whilst ignoring her play more widely.
what confuses you?..I dont want him to be quick hammered but I still want a claim.bionicchop2 wrote:This confuses me. Why unvote for him to claim? L-1 is just fine.curiouskarmadog wrote: at this point, i think at least one person should unvote (bringing him to -2)...and vollkan should claim.
I will read all of Vollkan's stuff today if I can.
What confuses me is there is no good reason for anybody to unvote, so your request for this to happen is very odd. Most claims are done at L-2 or L-1 without the removal of votes. The fact vollkan is stating it in a manner where he won't claim unless someone unvotes is doing nothing to persuade me.curiouskarmadog wrote:what confuses you?..I dont want him to be quick hammered but I still want a claim.bionicchop2 wrote:This confuses me. Why unvote for him to claim? L-1 is just fine.curiouskarmadog wrote: at this point, i think at least one person should unvote (bringing him to -2)...and vollkan should claim.
I will read all of Vollkan's stuff today if I can.
also please dont answer a request with a question.
please reinstate why you are voting vollkan?
My mistake on the unvote part. I just remembered he was saying he wouldn't claim unless... and mixed the finish with what you were saying.curiouskarmadog wrote:you dont want to hear what he has to say so we can evaluate tomorrow?
Where did vollkan state he will not claim unless someone unvotes.
and so that I understand,
vollkan are you refusing to claim?