Mafia Invictus Redux [Game Over]

[Dwlee99]

For Datisi's death you can ignore all the WIFOM shenanigans that usually come with night kill analysis since the D2 mod-post extremely strongly suggests they were LLD's Invictus target, and I feel like you especially might get more out of it (assuming you're town) going over his D1 posting and other people's comments on him now that you know 100% that he was town - if you have time to reread a bit let me know what you think.

Someone help me figure out if this is a real or fake town slip

[VP Baltar]

For Datisi's death you can ignore all the WIFOM shenanigans that usually come with night kill analysis since the D2 mod-post extremely strongly suggests they were LLD's Invictus target, and I feel like you especially might get more out of it (assuming you're town) going over his D1 posting and other people's comments on him now that you know 100% that he was town - if you have time to reread a bit let me know what you think.

Someone help me figure out if this is a real or fake town slip

What's the slip?

[Dwlee99]

Not knowing if Datisi or LLD is the scum kill

[Lukewarm]

How about this. At what point in this game did you read on Meuh change from scum to town?

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Also, guys. I have a dilemma.

Been debating on talking about it or not. But I don't know the best way for me to utilize my pr. (Am novice, so didn't fire last night)

I can choose someone, and will find out if we are Invictus targeting the same person. And something happens if we are. (I think I am the one role that exceeds the normal guidelines clause of the op because of this?)

So, I feel like maybe I should just out who I am going to be targeting, and then have us decide who we will be targeting over night? Will guarantee that we are on the same person unless they decide that stopping me from using my (unrevealed) ability is worth getting caught lying about their invictus target.

Have been hesitant to reveal that i am a PR for obvious reasons, but also worried that if I don't say something I might just guess wrong and be useless anyways.

[VP Baltar]

Not knowing if Datisi or LLD is the scum kill

This was already brought up earlier, so I don't think it accounts for much (not that I would even if it was the first time).

[VP Baltar]

Have been hesitant to reveal that i am a PR for obvious reasons, but also worried that if I don't say something I might just guess wrong and be useless anyways.

I think coordinating seems like the best play then? The odds of guessing the same target randomly seems low.

[Lukewarm]

Have been hesitant to reveal that i am a PR for obvious reasons, but also worried that if I don't say something I might just guess wrong and be useless anyways.

I think coordinating seems like the best play then? The odds of guessing the same target randomly seems low.

It feels less like I would have to just hope that we were on the same person, and more that I would have to plant my invictus vote on who I thought that they had their vote on. Basically, guess their target.

Like, if I could have fired night 1 I could have guess that marci was on Datisi, put mine there, and then it likely would have worked - or I could have questioned Marci on why it wasn't there given her reads.

So, I could see it being used without coordinating, but :shurg:

[Lukewarm]

Or, we could all collectively agree on an invictus target for the night, and then I could spot check for someone lying?

[Lukewarm]

Without revealing who I would be on?

idk man

[VP Baltar]

Or, we could all collectively agree on an invictus target for the night, and then I could spot check for someone lying?

That's interesting, but gives scum a free night if we choose wrong. Would be epic if town all picked a correct scum though

[marcistar]

honestly luke,

when i saw meuhs shitty reasonings for scumreading me i was kinda originally like "shes scum?"

but then when she was like

"do you think im scum?" i took a big phat think/reread of her iso and decided no, i dont.
it really caused me to rethink whether i believed what i was saying, or if i was just in a bitchy mood.

also wtf howd u know i was on datisi

[Lukewarm]

Or, we could all collectively agree on an invictus target for the night, and then I could spot check for someone lying?

That's interesting, but gives scum a free night if we choose wrong. Would be epic if town all picked a correct scum though

If we limit the outed invictus targets to just me and the person I am checking, and we choose wrong, then the scum team can just kill me in that scenario. Which as an outed Pr in a game with 3 VT flips means I am a desirable target anyways.

So not sure if this makes a huge difference.

[marcistar]

u dont know what happens if u and ur target are twinning right?

i yhink the checking for a lie plan would be most useful in that case ( :

[Lukewarm]

u dont know what happens if u and ur target are twinning right?

i yhink the checking for a lie plan would be most useful in that case ( :

I do know, but was trying to avoid outlining everything

to trick the scum team into thinking I should be a priority kill even though the effect is kinda weak

To trick the scum team into killing into me not knowing that it makes me bulletproof

To trick the scum team into thinking that they should kill me, even though they really need to kill my target

to trick the scum team into not killing me, because they don't know what will happen

ect. ect.

[marcistar]

oh u do know?
so why r u asking for help for the plan then?

make it a super effective plan!! all u need is to get the target shit figured out

[Lukewarm]

oh u do know?
so why r u asking for help for the plan then?

make it a super effective plan!! all u need is to get the target shit figured out

Do you want to be my invictus twin?

Who should we be on?

[marcistar]

OOO

big responsibilites : OO gotta be the prettier twin!!

rn i wanna say gammagooey, but if u have any other ideas ig since its ur pr

most effective would be wait until closer to day end as more we'll have more info by then right?

[Lukewarm]

True. We don't need to decide right now.

I was mainly checking to see if you would be nervous signing up to be a part of my mystery pr shenanigans.

I liked your response tbh

[marcistar]

oh!

i thought u wanted to do it bcuz we besties but its just actual mafia game things

[Bell]

VOTE: Malakittens

[Dunnstral]

Dunn, what's your take on Cakez please.

I agree with the people who are saying that the way they are bringing up the lavar wagon to look right right could be scum.

I don't like how they tried to shade me with meta that isn't true and then said they weren't talking about meta anymore when they pretty much still were

[Malakittens]

NGL:

I am liking the following for town while I'm reading up. I'm on the bottom of P52.
Val feels town; Dun feels town; Kovu feels town; Luke feels town; Fey feels town; R&R feels town.

I'm not vibing at all with Meuh or Marci's posts. In fact, I feel like Meuh is worse.

Fire feels slightly towny, but I also am in disagreement with his crap case on me considering he finished a game with me where I was on the lower post count similar to here.

I don't really know what to make of Bell.

I didn't like the tone of VPB esp when he was talking to Meuh. It just felt off. Like majority.

Bell is confirmed town.

VOTE: meuh

Good place to start right now.

[Malakittens]

Mala might be the safest bet from my perspective right now. But it's basically a blind vote.

Safest bet isn't always the best bet.

[VP Baltar]

I didn't like the tone of VPB esp when he was talking to Meuh. It just felt off. Like majority.

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VOTE: meuh

How do these two things make sense? You think I'm scum with Meuh?

[Malakittens]

Possibly could be theater. It potentially could be I'm wrong on Meuh and I have you both flipped in my mind and you are scum instead.