Mafia Invictus Redux [Game Over]

[fireisredsir]

Cause I was in that game and if he had something relevant to say about it I wanted to hear it

me and marci were talking about it right before. did you just pull it from his iso without looking at the context?

[Dwlee99]

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Did you just meta me with two games under different circumstances and then act like it was completely representative of the current context

[Dwlee99]

Cause I was in that game and if he had something relevant to say about it I wanted to hear it

me and marci were talking about it right before. did you just pull it from his iso without looking at the context?

Yes

[Dwlee99]

Andante you have literally never read me right

Well, have you done anything day 2? like, as scum you do nothing, so it's not my fault you're falling into textbook scum!dwlee


do you wanna give reads? like you were almost limmed d1, don't seem concerned there, here you're just like "oh yeah.. get Dunn!! the counterwagon to me!!"

Dunn is my read now

[fireisredsir]

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Did you just meta me with two games under different circumstances and then act like it was completely representative of the current context

no i linked two games as examples

i think the town game is representative of your general town attitude and approach to games, which ive experienced a lot. that game felt the most similar circumstances to this of ones ive played bc you were fairly low activity for most of it. but i don't think your attitude and approach in this is similar to how you usually play town at all. at first i just wrote it off as you trying a different style, and i agreed with your direction, so i ignored the feeling

but when reading a scum game that i think is under somewhat similar circumstances, it felt very similar, and i realized that may be the difference that i was feeling

meta is obv not the sole reason to vote you. you've just been straight up scummy. i just think that it also happens to support it

[Dwlee99]

The thing you point out as the difference ("not caring about appearances" as a paraphrase) is what Andante is accusing me of and calling it scummy lol

[Dwlee99]

But no it's literally not the same circumstance when the first game you link I had 7 posts on the first day. Not even close to comparable activity-wise

[Dwlee99]

I had more posts on the second RL day of that game than I do in this game right now...

Are you bullshitting me or did you just completely miss that?

[VP Baltar]

Who are your scum reads and why dwlee?

[fireisredsir]

you're right my bad, it wasn't a 100% exact match, it's really unfortunate that my entire point rested on the games being exactly the same and not that they were just examples to support a general point about your approach and attitude in games

but luckily i found a better scum game that matches the circumstances much more closely:

viewtopic.php?p=13394870&user_select%5B ... #p13394870

[Dwlee99]

Who are your scum reads and why dwlee?

Dunn for cake reasoning checking out across other examples I've read and tonal differences

Fire for this obviously bullshit push on me as a counter to dunn

[Dwlee99]

Fire took something that is "generally" true about my scum vs town game, and then lied about the application of it, which is pointed out by Andante who was not trying to make a point about this saying she thought I didn't care this game whereas Fire is trying to read into my posts and fabricate the caring he wants you to think exists

[Dwlee99]

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Are the only posts fire has made about or in response to dunn. Feel like fire is just trying to push me without actually engaging with the Dunn wagon, and his posts about Dunn consist of things like "teehee what if I townread dunn for a bad reason"

[fireisredsir]

Fire took something that is "generally" true about my scum vs town game, and then lied about the application of it, which is pointed out by Andante who was not trying to make a point about this saying she thought I didn't care this game whereas Fire is trying to read into my posts and fabricate the caring he wants you to think exists

nah this is just wrong lol

you're taking a single phrase from andante, that you "don't seem concerned", and taking it as proof that you aren't caring about your own appearances this game

despite the fact that earlier you admitted it was true that you were primarily focused on responding to things about yourself when catching up

how can those two ideas coexist?

its very clear that the bulk of your posts are about your own appearances or what people think of you and not proactively scunhunting

[Dwlee99]

Responding to things about myself is universally true and doesn't have anything to do with caring about appearances

Have you heard of the cocktail party effect

[Dwlee99]

Cause I was in that game and if he had something relevant to say about it I wanted to hear it

me and marci were talking about it right before. did you just pull it from his iso without looking at the context?

And I think you would connect that this shows that I'm skimming, right. So then when I see my name it garners more attention. Because it's me. So I notice it.

[fireisredsir]

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Are the only posts fire has made about or in response to dunn. Feel like fire is just trying to push me without actually engaging with the Dunn wagon, and his posts about Dunn consist of things like "teehee what if I townread dunn for a bad reason"

ive already said (maybe it was in the hood? idr) that i like dunn/dwlee as being the main wagons. idk why you would expect me to engage heavily with the dunn wagon here? i don't have very strong feelings on it

personally i think he's felt tonally very similar to his spring fling play, including the way that he's reacted to some of the pushes on him. bell i believe in that game said that he often responds to things in a sassy/snarky way as town and i felt a lot of that here. there is some lack of proactivity and scumhunting, though, so im not opposed to the wagon. my gut could be wrong on him, so im not like gonna fight the people scumreading him, i just think you're much more likely to be scum

[Dwlee99]

What hood are you talking about

[Dwlee99]

Anyway I'd expect you to talk about Dunn cause I'm pretty sure he's the other main wagon rn so if you want to convince people voting Dunn to vote me you should engage with why they think dunn is scum and then convince them I'm more likely instead

[fireisredsir]

Cause I was in that game and if he had something relevant to say about it I wanted to hear it

me and marci were talking about it right before. did you just pull it from his iso without looking at the context?

And I think you would connect that this shows that I'm skimming, right. So then when I see my name it garners more attention. Because it's me. So I notice it.

yes i didn't think i had to spell out my point here but i can if you insist

if you genuinely cared about the answer to your question i see no reason why you would ask about it instead of just click the link to the post and see the posts right before it to see the context. your question is literally "how is this relevant". there is a very easy way to check relevance for things

asking about it is purely perfomative there is no genuine hunting for alignment or even any care for what the answer is, because if you cared you would... just check

[Dwlee99]

Except I was asking because I thought he was trying to make a point about that game and so I looked around his ISO for context and didn't find it and so I asked

[Dwlee99]

I guess I could have looked at the actual context of that post as well instead of just in his ISO. Oh the hood is mentioned here too wow

[fireisredsir]

Anyway I'd expect you to talk about Dunn cause I'm pretty sure he's the other main wagon rn so if you want to convince people voting Dunn to vote me you should engage with why they think dunn is scum and then convince them I'm more likely instead

im pretty sure i was literally just doing that by further explaining my thought process on why i think you're more likely to be scum

talking to the dunn voters makes sense, yes, and i probably would do that if any of them were here. that's different from talking about dunn. you're moving the goalposts

[Bell]

My opinion on Dwlee is that, i have a hard time reading Dwlee, I feel like he used to phone in his scum games but now I’m not sure anymore.

I’m really the best. Really utilizing my role and status to the fullest. Absolutely helping our win con.

I am dying. I am busy.

[Dwlee99]

I'm not moving the goal posts what

Your posts about Dunn are non-existent in thread. If they are in a hood then how is it my fault I can't see them...