Open 853 - PYP X/Y S_S [game over!]

[Dwlee99]

MathBlade and HEM probably are SvS

Math just ignored my response to his terrible read on me

[MathBlade]

I really feel Dwlee is scum.

Titus hasn’t given a reason other than “matching” and “trying”

I don’t see that here from them.

That has to be BS because you only think I'm scum rn because of things that aren't there rather than things that are. So you can't be that confident of anything

This doesn’t merit a response.

I believe you are scum.

You believe I am lying.

You said “that confident” implying a tunnel of sorts.

I’ve actually been pretty quiet so your entire post is hot air saying you are town. Any player would.

[MathBlade]

The way I figure if HEM dies and flips town like I think they will then we work from my PoE tomorrow or scum nightkill me
If HEM flips scum then I was an idiot

There’s literally no point in forcing my PoE. At E-1 I just drop a reads list.

[Titus]

Math, Enchant thoughts?

[Titus]

The way I figure if HEM dies and flips town like I think they will then we work from my PoE tomorrow or scum nightkill me
If HEM flips scum then I was an idiot

There’s literally no point in forcing my PoE. At E-1 I just drop a reads list.

Since when do you not force your PoE?

[MathBlade]

Math, Enchant thoughts?

I wish he would play but too many players are calling for policy.

Meaning Enchant is town or this is planned to bus enchant

[MathBlade]

The way I figure if HEM dies and flips town like I think they will then we work from my PoE tomorrow or scum nightkill me
If HEM flips scum then I was an idiot

There’s literally no point in forcing my PoE. At E-1 I just drop a reads list.

Since when do you not force your PoE?

When it’s stupid to do so and people don’t want to listen.

We haven’t had a single viable wagon besides HEM all day. That says town isn’t talking. So since I can’t force that best to let the wagon through then find the scum on the wagon.

[MathBlade]

That’s just not normal for a d1.

[Ausuka]

Damn that's the first time I've ever been scumread for being bad at maths

huh?

I was pissed in general and Ausuka being nice about maths felt out of place tonally so she seemed sus.

Here it is.

Like are people just legit not reading my posts?

I read the post - I know it's about the same topic but I didn't really register it as a response to my question, firstly because it was a response to Gamma and secondly because you said at the time it was because "people aren't usually nice" - I was specifically asking if you had any like examples of using that kind of read in towngames or players being unusually nice as scum. Like, I'm more trying to read into your thought process than ask clarification, if that makes sense.

[MathBlade]

Damn that's the first time I've ever been scumread for being bad at maths

huh?

I was pissed in general and Ausuka being nice about maths felt out of place tonally so she seemed sus.

Here it is.

Like are people just legit not reading my posts?

I read the post - I know it's about the same topic but I didn't really register it as a response to my question, firstly because it was a response to Gamma and secondly because you said at the time it was because "people aren't usually nice" - I was specifically asking if you had any like examples of using that kind of read in towngames or players being unusually nice as scum. Like, I'm more trying to read into your thought process than ask clarification, if that makes sense.

I could if I bothered too but it’s pretty well known by Titus and Gamma especially. I’d rather see if they back it up to read them. If they say it’s a lie then they are sus and I can be bothered to go get it. If they tell the truth saves me time.

[Ausuka]

That works too

[Titus]

Math who is your PoE?

[Dwlee99]

I really feel Dwlee is scum.

Titus hasn’t given a reason other than “matching” and “trying”

I don’t see that here from them.

That has to be BS because you only think I'm scum rn because of things that aren't there rather than things that are. So you can't be that confident of anything

This doesn’t merit a response.

I believe you are scum.

You believe I am lying.

You said “that confident” implying a tunnel of sorts.

I’ve actually been pretty quiet so your entire post is hot air saying you are town. Any player would.

You literally quoted yourself being way more confident than you should be, and you have tons of other posts campaigning for my death so clearly I'm your top scum read.

[Dwlee99]

Math is scum 100%

[MathBlade]

Dwlee Bellaphant Implosion Titus Enchant (but only if scum with policy pushers) Ari (only if Enchant is scum)

I like Asuaka’s response so they’re back null to me.

Any particular reason you wanna not confirm what I told Ausuka?

[implosion]

We haven’t had a single viable wagon besides HEM all day. That says town isn’t talking. So since I can’t force that best to let the wagon through then find the scum on the wagon.

We had an Aristeia wagon and a Dwlee wagon that both hit 3 votes (the Aristeia wagon twice). Sure that's not 6 but it's enough to call it a wagon.

And more importantly, at least fmpov, this is not a normal d1. The thing that makes it not normal for me specifically is that I have an unusually strong scumread for day one. So why wouldn't I be leaving my vote there?

Dwlee Bellaphant Implosion Titus Enchant (but only if scum with policy pushers) Ari (only if Enchant is scum)

I like Asuaka’s response so they’re back null to me.

Any particular reason you wanna not confirm what I told Ausuka?

Hang on.

So Ausuka is "null" but not in a PoE???

[MathBlade]

We haven’t had a single viable wagon besides HEM all day. That says town isn’t talking. So since I can’t force that best to let the wagon through then find the scum on the wagon.

We had an Aristeia wagon and a Dwlee wagon that both hit 3 votes (the Aristeia wagon twice). Sure that's not 6 but it's enough to call it a wagon.

And more importantly, at least fmpov, this is not a normal d1. The thing that makes it not normal for me specifically is that I have an unusually strong scumread for day one. So why wouldn't I be leaving my vote there?

Dwlee Bellaphant Implosion Titus Enchant (but only if scum with policy pushers) Ari (only if Enchant is scum)

I like Asuaka’s response so they’re back null to me.

Any particular reason you wanna not confirm what I told Ausuka?

Hang on.

So Ausuka is "null" but not in a PoE???

Those aren’t wagons to me. They didn’t take off enough.

And yes. Because my PoE is big enough with just scum reads.

[MathBlade]

Not having multiple wagons is a sign of a dysfunctional town.

[Dwlee99]

If you scumread 6 people in a 3 scum game that means you're wrong

[MathBlade]

If you scumread 6 people in a 3 scum game that means you're wrong

It’s a POE

Some are obviously town but it’s a PoE not a solve. If I had a 6 player solve I would be wrong.

[implosion]

Not having multiple wagons is a sign of a dysfunctional town.

I actually do agree here to some extent, I think it is a sign of that, but I don't think it guarantees it. Consider that we're still <1/2 of the way through deadline. Consider also that we've had a lot of productive conversation, and lots of people have given committal stances, etc.

I think the converse is sort of more true - having lots of competing wagons (not necessarily all at the same time even) specifically on day 1 is often a good thing. I think in this game it's a symptom of a lot of player slots that just aren't really participating in the sort of coalition building, if that's the right phrase, that's involved in building wagons. Every vote count has had quite a few people not voting - maybe some people just feel we're not at that stage of the day yet or something.

[Bellaphant]

@math, what have Roden and the mala slot done to escape your Poe?

[implosion]

If you scumread 6 people in a 3 scum game that means you're wrong

It’s a POE

Some are obviously town but it’s a PoE not a solve. If I had a 6 player solve I would be wrong.

I do want to ask, what does PoE mean to you? When I think PoE, I think it means... well, they're the only people left who could be scum, so we can just lim them all and by process of elimination we'll hit all the scum. "If we lim all the people in the PoE we should be in good shape". which... this seems... like just a list of an arbitrary number of people who (presumably) are at the bottom of your reads list.

[Gamma Emerald]

Damn that's the first time I've ever been scumread for being bad at maths

huh?

I was pissed in general and Ausuka being nice about maths felt out of place tonally so she seemed sus.

Here it is.

Like are people just legit not reading my posts?

it seems like Aus didn't feel like all his questions were answered?

[Enchant]

You all just jelaous.