large normal 239. game over

[over90]

if elsa is red, kitty is red with her. i told you kitty, i remember your strange defense of elsa

[Elsa Jay]

so if elsa flips green, i will elim other prs

Or we discuss like civilized people and not use a failure in the making follow-the-cop to kill me first?

[over90]

i also can elim kitty today, because he was protecting elsa and for some other stuff

[RCEnigma]

If Elsa flips town and we chain elim me and mala because scum just didn't submit a night kill.....it would be hilarious honestly.

What are the odds Mala was shot?

It's nonzero but low nonetheless. So for context Elsa was the likely elim before Titus repped in and I spearheaded the elim on Titus, Titus spent the large part of the wagon duration pushing that myself and DV diverted the elim away from Bosco and that mala was scum based on the lack of hood use and how slots were interacting with mala (idk what that meant)

Mala and Bosco were at the top of Titus' poe at day end and then DV and myself.

It’s the same low odds to me of Elsa doing the kill or Mala being the shot. If Elsa was that sussed scum shouldn’t send Elsa to do the kill. I am just going to trust you whichever way you go on this I think.

UNVOTE:

I'm still fully on board with elimming Elsa here. But I do want to talk some things out. Both the options are dealing in the world of unlikely. With no other protectives claimed though mala just has to be town in both worlds right?
World 1 Elsa makes the kill town!mala prevents it.
World 2 Elsa doesn't make the kill Town!Mala is protected from kill
World 3 Scum!mala jks Town!Elsa, nk disappears?

[RCEnigma]

If we put a pin in the mala/Elsa thing I'm up to fielding thoughts about the rest of the game and we still need to hear from like Bosco and NK and cakes.

[MathBlade]

i also can elim kitty today, because he was protecting elsa and for some other stuff

Assuming this is true, I would not flip Kitty without flipping Elsa first here. It could be bad town protecting scum or scum whiteknoghting town.

[schadd_]

Spoiler:

vote count 2.1 !

Elsa Jay (3):

Cat Scratch Fever, over90, MathBlade

Not_Mafia (2):

KittyTacky, Not_Mafia

Malakittens (2):

SirCakez, Elsa Jay

KittyTacky (1):

Nero Cain

RCEnigma (1):

Enchant

not voting (6):

DeasVail, Malakittens, NashedPotato, Not Known 15, Save The Dragons, RCEnigma,

with 15 alive, it takes 8 to cause someone to be ever so slowly slowly locked up in their own house. day 2 starts now and ends in (expired on 2022-06-20 22:46:46)

modorator notes

• 1492: registering this as a vote on not_mafia who replaced mq.bosco

[Malakittens]

Give me a bit I’m off in about 5 hours.

Don’t lim me until I get a chance to actually post

I’m being railed at my job and I wish it was in a good way

[Enchant]

VOTE: Elsa

Brbrbrb

[Enchant]

Likelyhood of mafia skipping kill on purpose after roleblocker death is slim.
Likelyhood of mafia attcking Elsa is slim.

[Cat Scratch Fever]

I kinda think we’re just dealing with bad scum here if Elsa is scum. I mean why would scum send Elsa to do the kill? That question doesn’t fit for me. I think we need to flip Elsa as it’s more likely just me not having a grasp on the game yet.

Do you have any ideas, assuming Elsa is scum why they send Elsa to do the kill?

mmm this is a good point

Is it though?

What if Elsa is the only goon and scum aren't multitasking

Or if scum wanted to mitigate their losses by sending their scummier partner so the townier scum aren't guiltier?

[Cat Scratch Fever]

Now that RCE has revealed himself to be a doctor, the middle scenario is even more likely yeah

Wait there is a fourth scenario that scum (not Elsa - Elsa could be town in this scenario) shot someone else, who was saved by another protective. That's... more likely than either Mala or Elsa getting shot imo

@math, I'm kind of confused why you didn't think of this scenario?

[MathBlade]

Now that RCE has revealed himself to be a doctor, the middle scenario is even more likely yeah

Wait there is a fourth scenario that scum (not Elsa - Elsa could be town in this scenario) shot someone else, who was saved by another protective. That's... more likely than either Mala or Elsa getting shot imo

@math, I'm kind of confused why you didn't think of this scenario?

Because I don’t think 4 town protectives is reasonable.

RCE claims doctor
Titus odd night RB
Mala JK
Some other protective

I just don’t think that exists. And in the rare case I am wrong I certainly wouldn’t call it out.

[Malakittens]

I’m on an ambulance call but I’m either at l-1 or close to l-1

I’m town Jk and targeted Elsa

I won’t be back til another hour or two bc this is an assault victim

Sorry about the patient but seriously?

You do nothing all day 1 and suddenly claim to be town Jailkeeper? How?

I’m really sorry you are salty that you got caught.

[Malakittens]

I mean if you wanna believe in vig, I literally said before the thread locked I would shoot Enigma after Nero said Kitty. I'm a (wo)man of my word.

Not to mention picking the one person she can argue she jailed outta spite, if anything.

I'm literally just a neighbor. I can't confirm or deny if I had anything happen to me. When I flip town, you'll be like "guess we gotta get the other neighbors". Then Enchant dies and Math either dies or convinces ya Mala being alive after that long is weird.

I didn't want today to only be about me and Mala. But I can't really stand by and die either.

Edit: I don't know. I'd say scum could've tried killing me but that seems laughable. So either someone else did something I don't know about yet or scum hit a bulletproof/hider/commuter whatever.

[Malakittens]

I was going to actually CC Titus in thread and then I was like WTF when she actually flipped RB’r. I legit thought she was scum fake claiming

[Malakittens]

My post 77 in the neighbor thread was a little bit of a soft of my PR after she flipped.

[Malakittens]

is nash doing anything other than prod dodging?

Nash should die after EJ.

[Malakittens]

I am nervous tho that RCE could be a mafia role cop tho.

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[Malakittens]

{EJ, Nash & STD} all should probably die at some point before endgame

[Malakittens]

Today’s Lim should either be me or EJ.
We shouldn’t lim me b/c I targeted EJ and we didn’t have a kill.
I could also see scum sending EJ because he might be in the worst position of the rest of the team and they were nervous of a possible tracker/watcher getting them.

[Malakittens]

VOTE: EJ

Slot needs to die...

For real tho

Needs to die

[Save The Dragons]

I dig it

VOTE: elsa jay

[Save The Dragons]

I kinda think we’re just dealing with bad scum here if Elsa is scum. I mean why would scum send Elsa to do the kill? That question doesn’t fit for me. I think we need to flip Elsa as it’s more likely just me not having a grasp on the game yet.

Do you have any ideas, assuming Elsa is scum why they send Elsa to do the kill?

mmm this is a good point

Is it though?

What if Elsa is the only goon and scum aren't multitasking

Or if scum wanted to mitigate their losses by sending their scummier partner so the townier scum aren't guiltier?

I mean there's a dozen explanations but if scum Is afraid of invest they probably don't send Elsa to do the kill. I think it's a valid point but you are right and maybe they did anyway

[Nero Cain]

While mala blocking the shot is a valid theory and maybe that's what happened, I don't think there's enough evidence to defiantly say that what happened. I'm also a little wary of voting in the hood b/c there's only at max 1 scum in there while the other 3 are conftown so a mislim there seems worse than a mislim outside the hood.

Also, does anyone besides me find it a little odd that over starts talking about mala being targeted by a jailkeeper and then mala claims jailkeeper?

There are 2-3 outside of the hood, let's kill them.