Open 854 | Eurybia's Curse | Game Over!

[skitter30]

Ahhhh ok lets try it
VOTE: pavowski

[Aristeia]

i will sheep you wherever you want to go

[Aristeia]

VOTE: pavo

[skitter30]

We know how well that turns out lol >.>

[marcistar]

losing energy when pushed) i think is actually pretty prototypical of her scumgame

i lost energy even before i was pushed tbhs but sure lets say its because i got pushed :kekw:

[Aristeia]

it's just a game <3

[Coral]

I'm not sure that I would be comfortable voting Isis anymore.

What changed?

I explained my thought process in later posts, as I hope you saw. Did you have any questions about it?

[Aristeia]

i think we try our best and if we lose it's not a big deal let's not stress about it

[skitter30]

losing energy when pushed) i think is actually pretty prototypical of her scumgame

i lost energy even before i was pushed tbhs but sure lets say its because i got pushed :kekw:

Ok fair enuf - do u have any reads whatsoever you'd like to share?

[skitter30]

i think we try our best and if we lose it's not a big deal let's not stress about it

:)

[Coral]

if scum don't bus it will be very hard for 7 out of 9 town to agree on an elim

the game feels slow for some reason

Yeah and it felt the same way yesterday
So ig the question is: do scum not care and are just watching us bicker while twiddling their thumbs
Or are they trying to prevent a scum wagon

I'm kinda leaning towards the former, a lot of others a leaning towards the latter

im not sure how this fits with where you've been pushing? aren't your top scumreads isis and GL? do those fit the description of sitting back and not caring? I thought GL was taking on the role of somewhat reluctant town leader

[skitter30]

Idk if those are my top scumreads, i said before that i scumread like 2/3 of the game so a lot of things are a big muddle

So i'm trying to look at things from different angles to see if they make more sense that way

I dont have a cohesive explanation for everything that's going on

[Coral]

you were highly critical of the beat wagon and said you scumread most of the names on it, I remember reading that. that would mean that you felt scum was mostly driving the game. but now you say that "it felt the same way yesterday", leading you to the conclusion that scum are sitting back.

i think there's a disconnect between those two. are you reassessing things now?

[skitter30]

I'm working on it

But i dont think its a disconnect. Given beat was town and it was a p popular wagon, i think there can be one or two scum onwagon and the rest thought it was p likely to go through so didnt feel the need to do much else or explore other options (even if they were not on beat)

[Coral]

Do you think the Beat wagon had anything to do with the Gamma wagon? At one point, Ari said that Gamma going through seemed inevitable. You disagreed, I think, at the time. What do you think changed? Did it feel more like suspicion on Gamma gradually dropped off, and then suspicion on Beat rose up? Or was there action taken to shift the wagons?

That question is open to anyone, by the way, as I'm curious if anyone else has input, but I would specifically like to hear skitter's take on events first

[skitter30]

The beat and gamma wagons felt kinda similar to me, and i was never convinced either were scum

It felt like when enuf people started protesting gamma and gl presented beat as an alternative, peopoe drifted there instead

[marcistar]

Did it feel more like suspicion on Gamma gradually dropped off, and then suspicion on Beat rose up? Or was there action taken to shift the wagons?

To me, it felt like ppl just wanted to give gamma some space after 2 intense wagons

[skitter30]

Marci any answer to the reads question

[marcistar]

my reads havent really changed too drastically which is why im trying to sit back rn

[skitter30]

ok can you at least summarize the reads that you have, even if they haven't changed?

[Titus]

2004 Comparisons

• Aristeia - Undecided Gamma v SirCakez, Isis scummier than marcistar
  
• skitter30 - voted Isis both days. Confident not paired with Isis.
  
• Pavowski - Not on Gamma earlier, voting Gamma when on Isis despite larger wagons. Avoided both. Strong partnership with Isis viable.
  
• Meuh - Gamma scummier than Cakez, Voting guilty who is voting Marcistar. Voting opposite Guilty lion on Gamma v Cakez. Moderate anti-assiciatives Meuh and GuiltyLion
  
• marcistar - Gamma > Cakez, not voting counter. Would flip.
  
• The Ugly Fruit** - Votes skitter early, votes opposite skitter later on. Weak skitter anti associatives. Works as an Isis partner.
  
• Titus - Biased.
  
• Gamma Emerald - Likely town. Scum wouldn't bite the hand that feeds it (Isis)
  
• SirCakez - Would flip if either Marcistar or Isis are scum. Greater equity with marci though.
  
• Isis - Cakez scummier than Gamma. Possibly chainsawed for voting marcistar.
  Coral the worst - Gamma over Cakez. Sub obscures wagon 2.
  
• GuiltyLion - Cakez over Gamma. Marci over Isis. Anti associatives with Meuh bc countering Meuh or being voted by Meuh.

[Titus]

VOTE: Isis

Not opposed to marci but I feel we learn more from flipping Isis.

[Isis]

I doubt you are going to deduce five or more townreads from killing me Titus

"Gamma Emerald - Likely town. Scum wouldn't bite the hand that feeds it (Isis)" is this read a "no matter what Isis is" read or based on a bias that you think I'm maf?

[Titus]

I doubt you are going to deduce five or more townreads from killing me Titus

"Gamma Emerald - Likely town. Scum wouldn't bite the hand that feeds it (Isis)" is this read a "no matter what Isis is" read or based on a bias that you think I'm maf?

No matter what you are.

[Titus]

Ahhhh ok lets try it
VOTE: pavowski

VOTE: pavo

Consider my vote here too.