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If I am a cop my check was on EnchantIn post 2305, Aristeia wrote:also does it make sense for Enchant to give us a hypo-cop result?
like hypothetically if he is ascetic cop, his investigation result last night is ____<Embrace The Void>
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this was the VC when you unvoted and if you moved over it would've been 5-4 the other wayIn post 1892, Datisi wrote:vote count 1.18
with 14 votes in play, it takes 8 to make a decision. day 1 ends in (expired on 2022-06-14 01:30:00).
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putting a pin in thisIn post 2322, MathBlade wrote:
Except for the numerous other times I haven’t.In post 2321, Titus wrote:
No way town math wouldn't check me.In post 2319, Roden wrote:In post 2146, Enchant wrote:I am not claiming anything.
I think unless Wallflower checks in and claims to have JK'd/RB'd Math, then Math and Titus are TvT. I say that because she's the only one left who hasn't checked in. It would make today super easy if she did block the kill, but if not it's looking like someone chose Doctor and saved someone. And in that case the Doc can conftown someone if necessary.In post 2147, Enchant wrote:Just thinking Math is town<Embrace The Void>
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In post 2420, Titus wrote:
If Math is scum, yes. Math knows that I will demand more than he is capable of as scum. Is there a possibility he's town. Yes. But given he matches his scum meta and can't support any of his reads, I don't see why to change. The policy lim threat on me is a bonus.In post 2419, Roden wrote:
Do you believe that if one of them is scum, they always shoot you last night? What are the chances of WIFOM there? Does it make much sense to keep you alive to make you doubt your read on them?In post 2393, Titus wrote:
In a bit of arrogance, because my solve is right at least on Mathblade and Ari or my only two other compromise slots contain scum. Most likely my theory is just right and scum know I am a dog with a bone.In post 2391, Roden wrote:Ah, well he most likely isn't Cop, or a PR at all tbh since he's at the bottom of the draft. But yeah I agree that he always checks you in that situation.
Why did you think you were shot?
I want to see some dialogue from him if he's town. I don’t see how a conversation is "hoop after hoop". Town!Math would love engaging on VCA but just isn't giving it to me. Instead he whines that I'm spamming.
I'm trying to give him every opportunity to explain reads in a conversational fashion. A readwall with reasons works too if he'd rather keep the post count down.
I just need something.
Alright.In post 2421, Titus wrote:In fact, if I give Math what he wants, that actually makes it easier to lim him because people won't view his lack of content as stress induced and have less sympathy for him. Posting a simple idea repeatedly causes people to entrench. If I was going to eliminate him without listening, I'd shut up after making my initial point. However, my initial point doesn't give him much to defend himself with and results in a tunnel fight. So I'm giving him every chance to put forth any intelligent, reasoned and non-OMGUS reads before I tune out.
I claim Voyeur. Titus, I targeted you last night. Nobody else visited you last night, so if Math wasn't blocked in any way then he has to be town.
I'm claiming now for a couple reasons. I think you two are TvT and I think it would be more helpful if you got on the same page sooner rather than later. Plus, Voyeur is a low priority threat to scum anyway since it only has niche uses, so I'm not particularly afraid of scum knowing my role. And if they want to kill or block me, then other PRs get to put in work for free which is fine by me.-
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In post 2425, implosion wrote:I was! I was considering it at the time.
Again, why would i do that as scum when HEM clearly had no staying power and was a goon?
because at that point in the game titus was pushing mathblade very hard and HQ was leaning towards voting there after mathblade pissed her off so he was a viable mislim-
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I thought his vote on you was just filler until he could hammerIn post 2336, Aristeia wrote:actually I might be open to flipping Enchant today since he cant hide behind his bullshit tunnel on me anymore and he obviously survived the night<Embrace The Void>
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how do you know she's wrong?In post 2349, Aristeia wrote:titus just thinks she was shot because she thinks she's right
but i know she's wrong so she probly wasn't shot<Embrace The Void>
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uhhhh whatIn post 2350, Titus wrote:In post 2349, Aristeia wrote:titus just thinks she was shot because she thinks she's right
but i know she's wrong so she probly wasn't shot
Gee my third suspect knows I am wrong. What a shock
The EoD Ari pushwasn'tcover?<Embrace The Void>
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this is a pretty townie claimIn post 2429, Roden wrote:I claim Voyeur. Titus, I targeted you last night. Nobody else visited you last night, so if Math wasn't blocked in any way then he has to be town.-
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I want to ISO dive her today, I honestly don't remember much of her play other than sounding reasonable with her takes. If she bussed HEM then her progression on him might spew that.In post 2423, Gamma Emerald wrote:
if we're not gonna go after math today I wanna look at WallflowerIn post 2292, Roden wrote:Math I think there's a good chance you're town here, but yes you were absolutely very scummy yesterday and a bit at Day start today
her vote on HEM looks like it could be a bus vote and she's been absent this day phase so far-
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counterpoint: if they were scum they were deep in a hole and needed a way outIn post 2378, Aristeia wrote:
the viable elims were literally himself and HEMIn post 2375, Titus wrote:He can change his mind. He never votes a townread but for like hammer to stop no lim and I don't even recall him doing that.
he has zero thread influence - nobody is listening to him.
would he really prefer himself to be eliminated over his townread ??
bussing there would mess with optics, especially if there was someone to avidly defend Math<Embrace The Void>
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If mathblade is town he sure as hell still is a viable miselim.In post 2430, Aristeia wrote:In post 2425, implosion wrote:I was! I was considering it at the time.
Again, why would i do that as scum when HEM clearly had no staying power and was a goon?
because at that point in the game titus was pushing mathblade very hard and HQ was leaning towards voting there after mathblade pissed her off so he was a viable mislim
If mathblade is town and had been mislimmed yesterday, HEM sure as hell would be going down today.
Again: what would be my motivation as scum to tank my credit for being on the HEM wagon and instead waffle like this in order to secure a miselimination that probably would happen at some point anyway to save a doomed scumbuddy?-
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I am suspicious of Wallflower/Bellaphant/Ausuka
I still am suspicious of MathBlade but I'm letting it breathe
There's a lot of posts here and I don't have a ton to say
Feel like Bella's read progression on me was kinda weird. Ausuka kinda tunneled me. Wallflower idek what they've really been doingI prefer they, thanks :)-
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Speaking of that, can we talk about HEM's VT claim? I've been confused why he did that if scum chose to be Informed. He didn't even try to bait out a counter claim to a pair he knew was in the game.In post 2437, Aristeia wrote:i mean i guess I could be wrong and there's no voyeur and scum are informed of that but it feels so gambitty for him to do and scum really have no incentive to defuse this titus v mathblade conflict-
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fr?In post 2407, MathBlade wrote: Gamma town I don’t see any scumminess in their posts<Embrace The Void>
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it's not at all clear to me that flipping town mathblade yesterday would lead to a hem elim today.In post 2440, implosion wrote:
If mathblade is town he sure as hell still is a viable miselim.In post 2430, Aristeia wrote:In post 2425, implosion wrote:I was! I was considering it at the time.
Again, why would i do that as scum when HEM clearly had no staying power and was a goon?
because at that point in the game titus was pushing mathblade very hard and HQ was leaning towards voting there after mathblade pissed her off so he was a viable mislim
If mathblade is town and had been mislimmed yesterday, HEM sure as hell would be going down today.
Again: what would be my motivation as scum to tank my credit for being on the HEM wagon and instead waffle like this in order to secure a miselimination that probably would happen at some point anyway to save a doomed scumbuddy?
it's not at all clear to me that mathblade is as viable an elim today as yesterday.
the motivation as scum is to kill townies and keep scum alive - credibility is not important because you're not the primary pusher on mathblade, Titus was by far louder.-
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so during D1 you SR me because you found nothing towny about meIn post 1250, MathBlade wrote:
Because I don’t tr him yetIn post 1247, Roden wrote:Why do you scum read Gamma?
It’s hard to explain a negative
now you TR me because you find nothing scummy about me
why shouldn't you be turboyeeted for being caught red-handed in BS reads?<Embrace The Void>
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p sure that selection comes during the number selection, not role selectionIn post 2445, Dwlee99 wrote:Would scum picking informed imply they didn't get a good draft?<Embrace The Void>
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No. Even if I wasn’t shot, Math has a partner. However, your position makes sense.In post 2429, Roden wrote:I claim Voyeur. Titus, I targeted you last night. Nobody else visited you last night, so if Math wasn't blocked in any way then he has to be town.ShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
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