Mini 2273: Science Diagrams That Look Like Shitposts 2 [END]

[GoldfishFromTheMoon]

Why on Earth would I have been claiming anything?

I don't know, which is why I was asking.

[Elsa Jay]

Fish do you think it was weird that the shift from Corwin and Owen to George felt rushed? How do you feel about the events that happened?

I think the mod will lock thread in the morning when the actual deadline hits so be quick with a response. I want your opinion before the night phase happens.

[Umlaut]

Vote Count 1.5 (final)

GeorgeBailey (7):

Not_Mafia, Eiralox, Alexcellent, Crescent, gibus, Vivax, UNOwen

UNOwen (3):

clidd, Elsa Jay, GeorgeBailey

Crescent (1):

geraintm

Vivax (1):

Corwinoid

Not voting (1):

GoldfishFromTheMoon

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to launch.

[Umlaut]

GeorgeBailey was launched.

Spoiler: What was he?!

Welcome to Mini Normal 2273! You are a

Town Detective

.

Each night you may

investigate

one player, to learn whether that player has carried out a killing action on this or any previous night.

You win when the Town is the sole surviving faction.

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Night 1

Everyone sleep tight!
The sun will rise in (expired on 2022-06-14 04:35:00).

[Umlaut]

clidd died during the night.

Spoiler: What were they?!

Welcome to Mini Normal 2273! You are a

Townie

.

You win when the Town is the sole surviving faction.

UNOwen died during the night.

Spoiler: What were they?!

Welcome to Mini Normal 2273! You are a

Mafia Informed Traitor

.

You know the Mafia are [REDACTED]; however, you have no access to their private topic or factional kill, and you will be endgamed and lose the game when all other Mafia are dead.

You have the following additional information:

Wow, did you really think I was going to include this in the flip?

You win when the Mafia is the sole surviving faction, or when nothing can prevent this.

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Day 2

Vote Count 2.0

Not voting (10):

Not_Mafia, geraintm, GoldfishFromTheMoon, gibus, Vivax, Elsa Jay, Alexcellent, Eiralox, Crescent, Corwinoid

With 10 alive, it takes 6 to launch.

Deadline:

(expired on 2022-06-21 06:15:00)

[Eiralox]

VOTE: Gibus

[Alexcellent]

VOTE: Goldfish

[Alexcellent]

@Not_Mafia, do you become helpful on D2 or can we expect more of the same?

[Eiralox]

^ ; )

[Alexcellent]

I'm assuming that the scum team didn't actually know Unowen's alignment given he's a traitor

Clidd is an interesting kill. RIP Clidd and George. Sorry for the bad read on you George.
I'm going to have to review some stuff but I sorta felt weird about Clidd/Elsa throughout D1. Not sure how Clidd's death affects things. Elsa is still high up there for me I think.
Def want pressure on Goldfish today. Felt a lot of apprehension and not a lot of scumhunting from her D1.

Nothing super exciting jumps out at me from a glance at Unowen's ISO. He voted Corwin all day long until he hammered George. Maybe worth noting he asked Elsa for an opinion on Corwin and seemed very interested in the answer to the point of repeatedly questioning her. Maybe that's a traitor trying to find out what his scum companion thinks without being able to directly communicate? But also it's admittedly pretty loose. It just kind of jumps out at me because of him repeatedly directing the question her way. And then there's this:

I don't think Elsa suggesting she didn't give me any further thought until now after my lame response to her initial poke is a good sign for her alignment.

Also this is prob worth noting:

I really want to know what your fascination with me is.

I think you're scum.

Does the traitor super bus his scum buddy all D1 long like this? I know this is WIFOMy but I like getting it out into the open. Felt like Owen would have stayed on that wagon and IMO Corwin was at genuine risk of being eliminated yesterday until George wagon got bigger. I feeeeeel like that makes me slightly more leaning town on Corwin. But yeah, WIFOM.

[Eiralox]

[gibus]

VOTE: Goldfish, Not_Mafia, geraint

[Eiralox]

[Corwinoid]

Alex, on my end the entire attack from Vivax and Owen felt incredibly transparent and I had him absolutely hard scum locked before the end of the day. Read the three of of us in iso from a town!me perspective. The only reason I'm just slightly less gung ho on Vivax today is the possible false associative of Owen just shadowing them.

[Eiralox]

If there's two yet by all the peoples between sea and mount it is called a triumviratus, then Keasar and Krassus surely must wonder who in the shadows lurk? And who then can fault Keasar for thinking life but a jest, and the shadow partner naught but a jester? Ah, but the third was found, for was Pompey the Great not buried under the ashes of hubris?

[Alexcellent]

Eiralox, I am too stupid to understand subtext, I just feel it's important for you to know that

[Eiralox]

other scum knew owen was scum right?

[Alexcellent]

I am going based on the wiki https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Traitor

A Traitor is considered Normal on mafiascum.net, as long as it:

is Mafia-aligned
knows the identities of all of the Mafia team

identity is not known by the Mafia team, although they should know a Traitor exists

cannot be recruited to join the rest of the Mafia team, and (unless Bulletproof) is killed if shot
is endgamed if all other Mafia are dead
gives a "guilty" result to Cops, an "innocent" result to Gunsmiths, and a "Traitor" result to Role Cops

It doesn't really say in the reveal Umlaut posted but that's just the assumption I'm working with.

[Eiralox]

k thanks

[Alexcellent]

I'm working off the assumption that scum didn't know Owen was on their team, so very possible that they would vote him thinking he's a good miselimination. Although of the 3 people on his wagon at the end of D1, two are confirmed to have been town.

P-edit: No problemos

[geraintm]

VOTE: Gibus

VOTE: Goldfish

you lot know something different to the rest of us?? or you just shooting blind?

@ alex - trying to work out why scum shot someone is usually a pointless exercise. we don't even know who was killed by scum

VOTE: Goldfish, Not_Mafia, geraint

????

quick thoughts before i look at people properly.
but there were 7 votes on George yesterday, one who turned red. so 6 left

and there were 6 people not on the wagon, but 2 have turned up green so that is 3 left.
i reckon, on the law of averages, better hunting for scum off wagon than on.

[Alexcellent]

There's no universe where scum kills Owen there, unless it's for the WIFOM
Or alternatively if there's a setup where scum have 2 factional kills and they feel confident throwing one away but I doubt it
But yeah, I'll stop speculating aloud

And I don't have anything solid on Goldfish, but think it's a good place for a vote

[GoldfishFromTheMoon]

I think there might be a vigilante in the setup. Don't claim though.

VOTE: Goldfish

Kinda expected. My play so far has been pretty terrible, if I wasn't me I would be voting me.

Fish do you think it was weird that the shift from Corwin and Owen to George felt rushed? How do you feel about the events that happened?

I think the mod will lock thread in the morning when the actual deadline hits so be quick with a response. I want your opinion before the night phase happens.

sorry I didn't get to this in time.
Yes it felt rushed, (although that might be because I wasn't present for any of it, I literally woke up in the morning and was like "oh wow George is dead, didn't expect that to happen". I was going to say that I didn't like Owen's sudden hammer, buuuttt they've already proven to be scum so it's not that useful.

[Elsa Jay]

Oh. So Detective DID actually hint to a vigilante like I thought. Thank God. Now we don't have to waste all day on that. Why kill Clidd tho?

If you're vigilante don't claim unless at E-1 (or E-2 and NotMaf actually wants to play today). If false the real vigi will shoot it.

sorry I didn't get to this in time.
Yes it felt rushed, (although that might be because I wasn't present for any of it, I literally woke up in the morning and was like "oh wow George is dead, didn't expect that to happen". I was going to say that I didn't like Owen's sudden hammer, buuuttt they've already proven to be scum so it's not that useful.

Yeah that is why I was hoping you were online before to make more townie statements. Cres (and honestly me too) kinda need more from you.

With 9 people left besides you what's your readlist?

[GoldfishFromTheMoon]

Ok this sounds so bad but I'm kinda stumped bc Owen and Clidd were the two reads I was most confident in. Ie. I thought clidd was town, and I my information indicated owen seemed scummy what with that hammer and all so I was planning to press him about it today.