Mini 2273: Science Diagrams That Look Like Shitposts 2 [END]

[Elsa Jay]

Ok this sounds so bad but I'm kinda stumped bc Owen and Clidd were the two reads I was most confident in. Ie. I thought clidd was town, and I my information indicated owen seemed scummy what with that hammer and all so I was planning to press him about it today.

...

I won't vote you for this since it's still the first hour of me waking up to this game but please. Tell me about the players actually alive.

Please don't tell me you also just admitted you were ready to coast all day on an Owen vote like me and others said as well yesterday.

[GoldfishFromTheMoon]

Please don't tell me you also just admitted you were ready to coast all day on an Owen vote like me and others said as well yesterday.

I wasn't going too don't worry, I was (and still am) planning to watch how people react to the flips at the start of the day, and I'm going too look through the ISO's of the dead townies and scum for interactions and reads now I know their alignment

I have to go to bed now but I promise you I'll provide reads on the living players in the morning.

[Elsa Jay]

VOTE: Gibus

VOTE: Goldfish

you lot know something different to the rest of us?? or you just shooting blind?

@ alex - trying to work out why scum shot someone is usually a pointless exercise. we don't even know who was killed by scum

VOTE: Goldfish, Not_Mafia, geraint

????

quick thoughts before i look at people properly.
but there were 7 votes on George yesterday, one who turned red. so 6 left

and there were 6 people not on the wagon, but 2 have turned up green so that is 3 left.
i reckon, on the law of averages, better hunting for scum off wagon than on.

For the first part, it would be rather obvious that 9.5/10 times scum shot is Clidd over Owen. What benefit would a Owen death bring to them? Besides losing an easy launch we were all ready to do.

The Gibus vote I'm assuming is his list of the 3 scummiest players to him.

For the wagon analysis... It feels better to look at where the people were voting before they all jumped onto George. Obviously the hammerer turned out guilty, but I think at least one opportunist jumped on there as scum. One who probably was voting Owen/Corwin but jumped ship.

NotMaf/Eira/Gibus/Alex/Cres/Vivax were the remaining six on there. One scum there I think. NotMaf and Eira were already there before everyone switched over tho so not them. NotMaf has separate scum equity tho so not sure.

Will wait for others to get online now. Checking in in 2 hours.

[Vivax]

clidd sus for lack of benedict cumberbatch gifs

gotta pump those numbers up

I miss you, my friend.

We're kind of destined to play opposite alignments, but hopefully this time things will be different, right?

GG and congratulations. Your alignments were the same.

Speaking of which, does anyone know why this image is in Alex's ISO? ^

Makes me kind of sus of Alex tbh. Could have been a covert attempt at rolefishing by posting a fake crumb. If someone became suspicious of Alex afterwards, it'd give him info on possible detectives.
But it's a long shot.

I still think Corwin is mafia fwiw. Hope that Crescent is on the same page as their presence is pivotal in moving the game into one direction (when they aren't tilting and trying to do too much at once).

[Vivax]

If there's two yet by all the peoples between sea and mount it is called a triumviratus, then Keasar and Krassus surely must wonder who in the shadows lurk? And who then can fault Keasar for thinking life but a jest, and the shadow partner naught but a jester? Ah, but the third was found, for was Pompey the Great not buried under the ashes of hubris?

Great vig claim.

The remaining question is who Keasar is if Corwin is Krassus.

[Alexcellent]

Speaking of which, does anyone know why this image is in Alex's ISO? ^

Makes me kind of sus of Alex tbh. Could have been a covert attempt at rolefishing by posting a fake crumb. If someone became suspicious of Alex afterwards, it'd give him info on possible detectives.
But it's a long shot.

I still think Corwin is mafia fwiw. Hope that Crescent is on the same page as their presence is pivotal in moving the game into one direction (when they aren't tilting and trying to do too much at once).

Out of all possible normal roles, why would scum!me try to rolefish for detectives there, specifically?

[Vivax]

Spoiler:

Speaking of which, does anyone know why this image is in Alex's ISO? ^

Makes me kind of sus of Alex tbh. Could have been a covert attempt at rolefishing by posting a fake crumb. If someone became suspicious of Alex afterwards, it'd give him info on possible detectives.
But it's a long shot.

I still think Corwin is mafia fwiw. Hope that Crescent is on the same page as their presence is pivotal in moving the game into one direction (when they aren't tilting and trying to do too much at once).

Out of all possible normal roles, why would scum!me try to rolefish for detectives there, specifically?

Not voting (7): geraintm, GoldfishFromTheMoon, Vivax, Elsa Jay, Eiralox, Crescent, Corwinoid

Scum is in here somewhere

games over boys, we can all go home. sherlock here has solved it.....

Because Geraint gave you an opportunity to try.
Could also be a fakecrumb of a generic investigative role.

Since it's a long shot, I don't see much point in pushing the notion that you're mafia, but it's an interesting thought to me. If Corwin doesn't start spewing green butterflies soon I'm voting for him today.

[Elsa Jay]

Could just be rolefishing any investigation, and cop is too obvious of a bait. I doubt that was the intent tho. Probably posted that image to show you were looking into something, right?

[Alexcellent]

Not even. I posted some crappy Sherlock Holmes clipart in response to Geraint calling me Sherlock. It was a failed attempt at humour.

[Elsa Jay]

But your the Riddler. You could've posted Batman or, idunno, the Riddler to show your intellect.

[Alexcellent]

Could just be rolefishing any investigation, and cop is too obvious of a bait. I doubt that was the intent tho. Probably posted that image to show you were looking into something, right?

I just found the wording of Vivax's post interesting but yeah, fair.

P-Edit: The Riddler avatar is a ruse

[Elsa Jay]

But is he one of your fave Batman Villains? He's top 3 for me behind Ivy and the League of Assassins.

[Alexcellent]

Oh yeah fo sho. I haven't read a Batman comic for years but Riddler, Mr. Freeze and Two-Face where were it was at for me. And I'm still waiting for the Condiment King to get his own movie damn it.

[Elsa Jay]

Glad to see your a real Batman fan considering you also didn't just stick with Joker. He's good sometimes but others need the spotlight.

Anyway to actual gamestate. I'm gonna put a list of towniest to least townie based on my current thoughts.

Townie:
Eira (just been the towniest person of all of us tbf)
... Actually yeah Eira gets their own catagory.

Less townie then Eira:
Alex (asks the right questions and feels better now)
Crescent (jumping all over the place but keeping town active)
Vivax (would be way more townie if Corwin flips red)
Gera (guess he's better then the guys below)
Gibus (mostly null but more effort is appreciated)

Scummy:
Corwin (Mostly based off of that horrible reaction to Vivax)
NotMaf (literally has done nothing this game besides that one readlist)
Goldfish (also nothing but is trying to look like she's doing something.)

If I'm voting anyone today it'll be someone in the bottom 3. I can't give a proper reason for NotMaf other then doing literally nothing but maybe he can be our next vigi shot.

[Corwinoid]

^ Vivax is still trash. Flip me if you want to, but he's scum this game and I'm not moving off that position unless people find a magical fucking unicorn and a confessional signed by the pope.

[Elsa Jay]

I mean, considering you lived specifically because we jumped onto George for reasons I still don't get, I thought you would rethink your list. Then again since Owen flipped evil (despite being a traitor who main scum wouldn't know he is it) I guess you'll stick to your guns.

Who would be the remaining 2 scum to you?

[Corwinoid]

I mean, considering you lived specifically because we jumped onto George for reasons I still don't get, I thought you would rethink your list. Then again since Owen flipped evil (despite being a traitor who main scum wouldn't know he is it) I guess you'll stick to your guns.

Who would be the remaining 2 scum to you?

With a traitor is it 3+1 or 2+1? I have Vivax, I'm not sure who the third is.

Gera, Alex, Eira are town, I think NM is town right now. I would have stuck on Owen but you and Eira scared me off, I said that yesterday too. I'm null or very slightly leaned on everyone else right now.

[Alexcellent]

What makes you think NM is town?

[Corwinoid]

What makes you think NM is town?

Because there's a 75% chance he's not scum. None of his activity has moved that.

[Alexcellent]

I mean, considering you lived specifically because we jumped onto George for reasons I still don't get, I thought you would rethink your list. Then again since Owen flipped evil (despite being a traitor who main scum wouldn't know he is it) I guess you'll stick to your guns.

Who would be the remaining 2 scum to you?

With a traitor is it 3+1 or 2+1? I have Vivax, I'm not sure who the third is.

Actually this is a question I've been wondering. I would assume 3 scum still but probs with powers to counterbalance the traitor. That or maybe town has some weak powers, idk.

[Elsa Jay]

With a traitor is it 3+1 or 2+1? I have Vivax, I'm not sure who the third is.

I have yet to see a 13p normal with 4 scum so I assume it's 3 like normal. And i guess the detective was more powerful with only 2 people able to perform the kill. Hopefully the setup wasn't balanced with us not killing it day 1 in mind.

Also to clarify that the people who are null or below to Corwin is the following:

Elsa
Cres
Goldfish
Gibus

[Corwinoid]

I mean, considering you lived specifically because we jumped onto George for reasons I still don't get, I thought you would rethink your list. Then again since Owen flipped evil (despite being a traitor who main scum wouldn't know he is it) I guess you'll stick to your guns.

Who would be the remaining 2 scum to you?

With a traitor is it 3+1 or 2+1? I have Vivax, I'm not sure who the third is.

Actually this is a question I've been wondering. I would assume 3 scum still but probs with powers to counterbalance the traitor. That or maybe town has some weak powers, idk.

I'm

assuming

2+1, because 9 v 4 with a vig, even a one shot, is mind blowingly scum-sided. Detective seems powerful, but not that powerful.

[Alexcellent]

@Corwin, does your scum read on Vivax stem mainly from his questioning if there's a Jester in the game yesterday? Your read seems super strong and unmoving, I'm just not quite so sold as hard on Vivax as scum.

VOTE: Vivax

I hate being confident on D1, but I'm very feeling Vivax/UNOwen/?? as a team right now.

If this team were correct, do you have any ideas who scumlord number 3 may be?

[Corwinoid]

@Corwin, does your scum read on Vivax stem mainly from his questioning if there's a Jester in the game yesterday? Your read seems super strong and unmoving, I'm just not quite so sold as hard on Vivax as scum.

No. It came from the play after that. Being on the receiving end of the Vivax/Owen counterplay felt a lot like... mean girls... where I was getting bullied and nobody else was seeing it. It felt super obvious on this end. I had a lot of things going on during day 1 and couldn't get the posting time in in the last 36-48 hours at all... I was seriously just not able to put in the effort for how fast the day started rolling on me, I wasn't expecting 35 pages out of day one; lesson learned.

If this team were correct, do you have any ideas who scumlord number 3 may be?

Yes.

[Corwinoid]

I'll point out that despite the post-flip associative of Vivax/Owen, Vivax has still doubled down on me as the mislim today.