Open 853 - PYP X/Y S_S [game over!]

[Titus]

ok I guess that makes sense but if a scum took vengeful dont they just claim VT how do you even find them

Given the issue that no one is claiming the n3 vig, we should deviate from my suggestion.

We take the scummiest VTs and make them claim their categories and why.

Then, any required PRs claim. By required PR, I mean a PR that must exist for those VTs to exist.

If there's a VT without a dance partner and/or lacks a good reason, high odds they are scum. Furthermore, they must argue scum is above them. The higher up the fake VT claim the more likely it's bullshit.

We need Implosion, Dwlee, and Harley to claim VT or PR.

[Ausuka]

This forces scum Ausaka to waste their JK on Roden to fake it.

So if Roden gets ascetic he knows scum in Asuaka or Enchant

If Roden doesn’t then Enchant is not ascetic and very likely bulletproof conf town.

or enchant comes in like "I'm town ascetic cop I was just trying to wifom"?

[Wallflower]

This forces scum Ausaka to waste their JK on Roden to fake it.

So if Roden gets ascetic he knows scum in Asuaka or Enchant

If Roden doesn’t then Enchant is not ascetic and very likely bulletproof conf town.

or enchant comes in like "I'm town ascetic cop I was just trying to wifom"?

And then I’ll be like “bruh”

[Ausuka]

This forces scum Ausaka to waste their JK on Roden to fake it.

So if Roden gets ascetic he knows scum in Asuaka or Enchant

If Roden doesn’t then Enchant is not ascetic and very likely bulletproof conf town.

or enchant comes in like "I'm town ascetic cop I was just trying to wifom"?

And then I’ll be like “bruh”

I already got to that point tbh

[MathBlade]

If he does the Enchant trades and then has Harley Quinn conf town from being shot Ari conf town and has to give a new check

Odds of that are near zero

[MathBlade]

Like town enchant legit just claims cop then Ari is Doctor who saved HQ and we elim me and call it a day

[MathBlade]

So then it’s very likely if Enchant comes back ascetic we have a three way between Roden/A/enchant

[Ausuka]

I tolerated your defense of HEM but this defense of Enchant too is just more scum siding lol

Then vote me.

Confirm Enchant as BP town

Lock town unelimmable I am fine with that

you being vanilla town doesn't mean Enchant is BP town

It does because of the missing kill

not true there is probably a doctor

Then said doc would be on Roden if it exists. If doc goes rogue then another no kill happens possibly

But if Roden dies I am going to think doc doesn’t exist

so we lim you - you flip vanilla town

so doc protects roden

roden checks enchant finds he is not ascetic so possibly scum bulletproof

ausuka dies at night

ok what now

Town BP.

Not scum BP.

There was no kill.

So ergo Enchant is conf town and can be reevaluated at elo but not before

I don't think that's what conf town means

Don't think it's impossible for enchant to be scum BP either, being vig immune and making sure there's no cop has utility

(Could also just not have that slot I suppose, not bp or ascetic?)

[MathBlade]

But that has to be who scum shoot since Ari said scum would shoot there.

[Dwlee99]

There's no way to conf enchant without confirming not ascetic and limming scum today

[MathBlade]

So the odds are like 90 to 1 scum shoot enchant

[MathBlade]

There's no way to conf enchant without confirming not ascetic and limming scum today

Or you lim me
Prove I am not killer
Then scum shot in Enchant and HQ

Problem solved

Scum always shoot enchant in that group as enchant is top spot

[Ausuka]

But that has to be who scum shoot since Ari said scum would shoot there.

I'm sorry I'm not sure what this means. You think it's overwhelmingly likely scum shot Enchant so he's town?

Why couldn't scum just have shot hq

[Ausuka]

or scum shot mathblade

I'm joking mostly I have actually seen scum do something comparable before lmao

[MathBlade]

But that has to be who scum shoot since Ari said scum would shoot there.

I'm sorry I'm not sure what this means. You think it's overwhelmingly likely scum shot Enchant so he's town?

Why couldn't scum just have shot hq

Ari laid out the case yesterday
It’s why she didn’t want to elim enchant n1

Look there she said it better than I can.

[MathBlade]

or scum shot mathblade

I'm joking mostly I have actually seen scum do something comparable before lmao

Haha this is never the case I like never get shot ever.
If scum shot me there’s way better shots.

[Ausuka]

yes i bussed hem on d1 so i could claim doctor on d2 and never endgame

genius

Yeah uh I do think Ari is like obviously town here now

Pedit: ok but I'm not compelled to agree with Ari I think it's fairly likely scum would choose to shoot someone else given that enchant was like a highly potential miselim if town and also like possibly just scum, and apparently Ari also thinks that now, so

pedit: no really I played this one mini normal where like, there were 4 prs left in the game and the scum shot a claimed vanilla townie scumread by like basically everyone

[Aristeia]

But that has to be who scum shoot since Ari said scum would shoot there.

I said scum would shooot enchant

if enchant was not scum

So if Enchant dies, we know he's town

if Enchant lives, then we know he's scum.

I was assuming Enchant would've picked Ascetic Cop because that's the protown thing to do. picking bulletproof is literally making sure the town does not have a cop.

[Ausuka]

Enchant	1	BP
Ausuka	2	JK
Harley Quinn	7
Bellaphant	9	VT confirming Ausuka
Gamma Emerald	14
implosion	16
Malakittens	216
Aristeia	512	doctor
humaneatingmonkey	800	goon
Titus	9999
Dwlee99	4
Roden	4	voyeur
Save The Dragons	8	VT
MathBlade	8	VT confirming either n3 vig or vengeful is present

night 3 vigilante	or	vengeful	Should be present
1-shot vigilante	or	2-shot PGO (active)
ascetic cop	or	bulletproof	Enchant
draft cop	or	1-shot watcher
doctor	or	roleblocker	Ari
universal backup	or	rolecop
neighborizer	or	voyeur	Roden
jailkeeper	or	tracker	Ausuka

Huh, I didn't really think about this yet but it makes it look like scum don't have a blocking role? I guess scum could have gone for jk but it sort of points to scum low in the draft I think?

[Titus]

Again, this who shot whom discussion is pointless.

Let's just wait on HQ Implosion and Dwlee

[Dwlee99]

There's no way to conf enchant without confirming not ascetic and limming scum today

Or you lim me
Prove I am not killer
Then scum shot in Enchant and HQ

Problem solved

Scum always shoot enchant in that group as enchant is top spot

Scum don't shoot enchant in that group if enchant is scum though

[Titus]

Dwlee PR or VT

[Dwlee99]

VT

[Titus]

So now we have Implosion and HQ to claim PR or VT. If PR to specific n3 vig or not.

This will out Enchant as near probable scum and possibly catch the VT partner.

[implosion]

hi i'm here.

does order matter or should i go