Open 855: Not Mafia's Republic | Game Over

[The Abomination]

UNVOTE: The Abomination

I unfortunately don't want to vote this anymore

VOTE: Meditation

ew gross

VOTE: catboi

[Not_Mafia]

It is obvious that our judgements, however, are just as necessary as our judgements; by means of our knowledge, the transcendental unity of apperception is a representation of our experience. In natural theology, the things in themselves have lying before them, in natural theology, the Categories, since some of our judgements are hypothetical. In natural theology, it is not at all certain that metaphysics is the key to understanding the objects in space and time. As is proven in the ontological manuals, practical reason is a representation of, in accordance with the principles of our ideas, the paralogisms; certainly, our a priori knowledge (and I assert, in the study of necessity, that this is true) is a representation of necessity. (As is shown in the writings of Hume, the intelligible objects in space and time, however, are a representation of our ideas, yet the phenomena are a representation of the architectonic of human reason.) As I have elsewhere shown, Hume tells us that our experience (and I assert, with the sole exception of the discipline of human reason, that this is true) can thereby determine in its totality our ideas. By virtue of natural reason, the manifold, in respect of the intelligible character, can never furnish a true and demonstrated science, because, like the thing in itself, it can thereby determine in its totality disjunctive principles; in all theoretical sciences, the architectonic of natural reason can thereby determine in its totality natural causes.

[The Abomination]

To be fair, you have to have a very high IQ to understand how to read BlueKang. The townplay is extremely subtle, and without a solid grasp of theoretical simping most of the jokes will go over a typical reader's head. There's also Brad's nihilistic outlook, which is deftly woven into his characterisation- his personal philosophy draws heavily from Narodnaya Volya literature, for instance. The fans understand this stuff; they have the intellectual capacity to truly appreciate the depths of these potss, to realise that they're not just funny- they say something deep about LIFE. As a consequence people who scumread BlueKang truly ARE idiots- of course they wouldn't appreciate, for instance, the humour in Brad's existential catchphrase "[female player] IS OBVIOUS TOWN" which itself is a cryptic reference to Newcomb's epic How To Put Wolves In A Box. I'm smirking right now just imagining one of those addlepated simpletons scratching their heads in confusion as Brad's genius wit unfolds itself on their mafia screens. What fools.. how I pity them.

- 69

[catboi]

i am not marrying my sister catboi is trolling

you're such a weeaboo i figured you might pull an oreimo

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

whats your read on spf so far

[catboi]

whats your read on spf so far

slight scumlean, her read on abomination looked like she might have come up with it to have "content" in her opening, a review of abomination's posts to that point showed they were mostly joking/shitposting, which is fun and good but hardly an alignment tell. do think abomination has had towny posts since then though, and since there are so many scum in this setup, having a handful of townreads means everyone else has greater than a coinflip chance of being scum

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

alrite lets go

VOTE: spf

[The Abomination]

....


I feel like you taking that shitpost seriously is more likely to come from scum!you because scum tend to think townies are "serious"

bad look

I don't get this.

Though I will say Pooky might be deep wolf/evil so far with I suppose their abrasiveness. I have no idea who they are despite them seemingly pretty familiar with us in the crowd

-90

[The Abomination]

Do these games really go the full 7-10 days for each phase because wow that's a lot of talking/bickering?

The. Longest games. I play are 2 day/1 day so like uhhhhh

- sk

They often run close to deadline, but as it's majority hammer we can end the day anytime we're ready, and would encourage doing so, although right now we obviously still have a decent amount of people who haven't said much. Just have a little patience, let people work into the game at their own pace, and go from there.


(

Also, A&R has further towntold on this page

)

Is this a towntell?

-90

[catboi]

I would probably make that observation as scum, too, so no, it is not a towntell.

(I don't think pooky posting abrasively is a scumtell in and of itself)

[DkKoba]

i read MU spec chat

What is your discord name?

- sk

Please try not to reference a spec chat that involves ongoing games. Thank you.

[DkKoba]

Votecount 1.2

catboi

(2): staypositivefriend, The Abomination

Save The Dragons

(2): AbbyandRani, catboi

staypositivefriend

(1): PookyTheMagicalBear

The Abomination

(1): PenguinPower, 4maskwolf

Not_Mafia

(1): Not_Mafia

AbbyandRani

(1): Save The Dragons

Not Voting

(3): Arete Lastname, Taly, Meditation


With 12 alive, it takes 7 to eliminate.

Day 1 deadline ends in: (expired on 2022-06-26 21:33:19) .

[PenguinPower]

VOTE: 4maskwolf

[4maskwolf]

VOTE: Not_Mafia

[PenguinPower]

Oh boy - I hate it but I love it.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

sup pengy

what's happening

[PenguinPower]

Kettle One is happening.

[PenguinPower]

But also wagons are shifting. It’s fun.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I had half a bottle of wine with my steak tonight I'm still kinda tipsy

[PenguinPower]

Why spf?

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

i remember she felt townier at the start of the TM game

[Arete Lastname]

hi everyone

I'm finally caught up, since the game is multiball I'm focusing mainly on tone-types of things rather than mainly on solving types of things since evils can solve for real for the other scumteam but they can't magically smooth over the psychological differences between an evil and a townie

here's where I am right now, this is roughly sorted within tiers

townie people

AbbyandRani - so I don't know how to say this without sounding insulting but BK's pretty terrible as scum, the last time we played together he basically outed himself in his first ten posts with how much he just sounded like a robot going through the motions. Here I see the exact opposite, his posts all feel genuine, and the emotional reactions (e.g. P#156) are something I know he reaches for a lot more as town -- he's probably going to get mad at me for bringing this up, because he doesn't really like it when people read him off of it, but it's true, and as long as it stays true I'm going to keep reading him off of it.

Abomination - Ace is the one I find easiest to read in this monstrosity and the posts that read like Aceposts feel like what I expect from town!Ace (and when A&R also pointed that out, Ace was mostly just mad about being outed as Ace (P#55), he didn't seem to be trying to use that to his advantage or anything). I also melded with Marmot's initial vote on 4mask (P#35), I also thought that post from 4mask was weird, but I'm not considering that as much since evils can still solve for real.

catboi - this slot feels sort of blunt, in a down-to-business sort of way, like they just want to get to work (P#147, P#150, P#205). I don't really know how to explain this but I think the particular flavor of bluntness they have going on is more townie than not -- like, Professor McGonagall vibes [this should not be taken as support of JKR to be clear]

Pooky - If I had to describe this slot in one word it would be something like 'fast,' they're not exactly down-to-get-to-work in the way catboi is, but nonetheless they are sort of zipping around the thread. If they strongly prefer one alignment or the other, I think they're whichever alignment they prefer; otherwise they're occupying sort of a 'powerwolfing or very enthusiastic townie' sort of superposition in my head, but I'm leaning the latter, it's a kind of playstyle that brings a lot of attention. Probably my weakest townlean.

null/unsure

Taly - I'm sort of conflicted on this slot because some of the posts from Toucan (I think?) have really pure tone (e.g. P#105, the excitement there feels real), but Sol's P#110 feels really stiff and formal. I know there's a system on my homesite where one of the alters always has really bad tone as any alignment and another one always sounds incredibly pure and innocent, so it could be something like that, but I'm not totally sure which to listen to. (Also, @Taly, is there anything I should know about how to interact with or address you, like if you use different pronouns from each other, or anything?)

Save The Dragons - nothing really stands out to me in either direction tone-wise, there's not much to go on

Meditation - they literally have two posts and neither of them has anything relevant, either in a 'them solving the game' way or in a 'tonal tells' way.

Not_Mafia - they used to play on M451 and I read a bunch of their games there and they kind of just trolled every game, so I don't really know how to read them

scummy people

Penguin Power - I'm mostly trying to read people off of tone more than solving but his solving is really thin, like, there are some slots that just openly aren't doing anything, whereas he keeps making posts that are like one sentence long and barely add anything but technically contribute just enough that if you only skim it looks like he's doing something.

SPF - she doesn't really have much to go on, but I thought P#85 was trying to force sounding natural/casual without actually being natural/casual. Basically it sounds like she's the dude in the "How do you do, fellow kids?" meme except specifically the way he holds his skateboard over his back.

4mask - 4mask also feels like the 'fellow kids' meme (e.g. P#24) and I really didn't like his response to pressure (P#49) -- I've noticed that on my homesite evils often give a sort of 'haha you caught me' response when other people push them because they don't have an honest way to respond, whereas town will usually either address the points, or use it to read the person who's pressuring them, not just be like 'oh you got me'

VOTE: 4maskwolf

[Arete Lastname]

is there a way to automatically link posts? P#xx didn't work

[The Abomination]

fun things from fatmo who's lazy and hates all of you:

SPF is either town or has TMId us town
BK/Sabi is a wolf who's TMId us town and 4mask wolf

pooky and penguin are town, taly too

So many of the people in this game know at least a handful of the people in The Abomination and would struggle to push us as non-town

catboi can be a wolf too (HK disagrees here and thinks catboi can be town but meh this is a post about what fatmo the lazy and mo fat thinks)


hot off the presses: nanook also thinks BK/SK can be a wolf but also thinks if they start posting real thoughts they could be town

fatmo says he has to eat dinner now so this has been updates from fatmo brought to you by HK.
He says maybe he'll be interested in posting when we get to lump but he's not smart enough to figure out 1. what is lump and 2. when that would be given multiple teams of baddies.

Speaking of which, the maf team is basically evil aligned survivors who can't do jack or shite other than make reads and do pushes.

Mafia, you're going to lose. It's beneficial if you town side plx and thank you. Give me wolves and I'll let you pretend you're doing well.

Stay Foxy and Much Love,
HK

[The Abomination]

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