Open 856: Deputy cultists (Game over)


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Post Post #25 (ISO) » Mon Jun 20, 2022 2:00 am

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I want to ask why to both of the above posts. Although tbf I am town reading cat for bad reasons.
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Post Post #26 (ISO) » Mon Jun 20, 2022 2:17 am

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Plainly, game won instantly after Cult Leader is dead, so it's always in benefit to simple massclaim D1.

On D2 and afterwards, assuming someone is converted, there will be always doubt that PR is converted and traded claims with Cult Leader to let him not look suspicious.

So... Yep. From my POV i have 1/10 chance to hit CL, if every PR claims without challenge, it turns in 1/7.

Why not?
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Post Post #27 (ISO) » Mon Jun 20, 2022 2:21 am

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It's not a why not question, I'm just really bad at mech/set up. I'm pretty sure this is my first cult game, although I might've done a marathon ones years ago.
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Post Post #28 (ISO) » Mon Jun 20, 2022 2:48 am

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Inclined to agree with Jacket that Enchant seems slightly Townie from their posting so far. Probably going to extend that feeling onto Jacket for the time being too.

Beat might be Town for . I disagree with the idea, but I think most Scum would be hesitant to recommend that strategy in their first post.

Let's try to VOTE: RH9.
In post 25, Bellaphant wrote:I want to ask why to both of the above posts. Although tbf I am town reading cat for bad reasons.
Can I know what those reasons are?
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Post Post #29 (ISO) » Mon Jun 20, 2022 2:53 am

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In post 26, Enchant wrote:Plainly, game won instantly after Cult Leader is dead, so it's always in benefit to simple massclaim D1.

On D2 and afterwards, assuming someone is converted, there will be always doubt that PR is converted and traded claims with Cult Leader to let him not look suspicious.

So... Yep. From my POV i have 1/10 chance to hit CL, if every PR claims without challenge, it turns in 1/7.

Why not?
Can't the PRs prove themselves on later days, though? I don't see why they need to out now.
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Post Post #30 (ISO) » Mon Jun 20, 2022 3:01 am

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In post 29, Jacket wrote:
In post 26, Enchant wrote:Plainly, game won instantly after Cult Leader is dead, so it's always in benefit to simple massclaim D1.

On D2 and afterwards, assuming someone is converted, there will be always doubt that PR is converted and traded claims with Cult Leader to let him not look suspicious.

So... Yep. From my POV i have 1/10 chance to hit CL, if every PR claims without challenge, it turns in 1/7.

Why not?
Can't the PRs prove themselves on later days, though? I don't see why they need to out now.
Vengeful proves self by being elimmed and ability to shot. You probably don't want to elim them to prove power, as they are not Cult Leaders.
Governor overrules day 4 and chooses elim. Well, we will know that obviously, but see next letters.

Both remain in power after conversation. Therefore having converted vengeful is not cool, as they turn in mine. It's easier to confirm them now and then don't touch them for game end. Converted Governor plainly gurantee that CL doesh't get killed, more over someone cult desire will elimmed instead.
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Post Post #31 (ISO) » Mon Jun 20, 2022 3:04 am

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In post 26, Enchant wrote:Plainly, game won instantly after Cult Leader is dead, so it's always in benefit to simple massclaim D1.

On D2 and afterwards, assuming someone is converted, there will be always doubt that PR is converted and traded claims with Cult Leader to let him not look suspicious.

So... Yep. From my POV i have 1/10 chance to hit CL, if every PR claims without challenge, it turns in 1/7.

Why not?
If both PRs claim then Cult Leader would want to convert them for the ability. But then we would be wary of the PRs and would want to elim them, which if they are town they will get to use their power so maybe it's not that bad. If they aren't town that sucks. Seeing as to progress we need to elim a Cultist though it might be a medium idea. I think D4 governor should reveal, not sure about the others.

Question: It says vengeful townies only have their ability when elimminated. What if one vengeful townie is eliminated and chooses to kill the other vengeful townie? will the second one get a kill as well?
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Post Post #32 (ISO) » Mon Jun 20, 2022 3:06 am

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Vengeful triggered when they are elimmed via vote.

Dying to vengeful doesh't trigger vengeful.
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Post Post #33 (ISO) » Mon Jun 20, 2022 3:08 am

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... Who even converts Vengeful which claim d1? They claim and basically never elimmed, as they are again... Not Cult Leader with quarantee.
Governor probably can be converted for power, but if we don't manage to hit CL for 3 days, we kinda deserved to suck up.
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Post Post #34 (ISO) » Mon Jun 20, 2022 3:09 am

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Overall setup sucks. All PRs are basically Innocent Atheists.
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Post Post #35 (ISO) » Mon Jun 20, 2022 3:22 am

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I am in this game.

Will read later and likely sheep the largest wagon.
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Post Post #36 (ISO) » Mon Jun 20, 2022 3:42 am

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Post Post #37 (ISO) » Mon Jun 20, 2022 4:18 am

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In post 33, Enchant wrote:... Who even converts Vengeful which claim d1? They claim and basically never elimmed, as they are again... Not Cult Leader with quarantee.
Governor probably can be converted for power, but if we don't manage to hit CL for 3 days, we kinda deserved to suck up.
I can see the idea behind the Vengeful Townies claiming now, actually, but the Governor should definitely stay silent. They can always claim later if they get run up.

Also, Enchant is Town.
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Post Post #38 (ISO) » Mon Jun 20, 2022 4:21 am

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@nathaan, they made me laugh with their opening to enchant. I tend to find town are more relaxed and making me laugh has tended town before - cat was in a game recently where one of my reasons for scum reading someone was they made me laugh when we were both town but not that game.
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Post Post #39 (ISO) » Mon Jun 20, 2022 4:23 am

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Hello everyone. I see that people are townreading Enchant and voting Jacket. I was actually the first to townread Enchant. I know I just got here but I thought "Enchant is town". In the Open Queue. When I saw them sign up. As for voting Jacket, they're probably not Cult Leader, and we win by voting CL. So I encourage everyone to do what is literally the best strategy and sheep me on someone random, that no one else has voted for yet.
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Post Post #40 (ISO) » Mon Jun 20, 2022 4:24 am

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VOTE: Korina

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Post Post #41 (ISO) » Mon Jun 20, 2022 5:11 am

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VOTE: Korina
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Post Post #42 (ISO) » Mon Jun 20, 2022 6:21 am

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In post 39, furtiveglance wrote:As for voting Jacket, they're probably not Cult Leader, and we win by voting CL.
Correct, but why would you say that?
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Post Post #43 (ISO) » Mon Jun 20, 2022 6:48 am

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VOTE: Korina
Meta this. Meta that. Meta Everything. Meta is not a good scum-hunting tool. PEOPLE CAN MANIPULATE THEIR META. Stop it. Stop. It. Now.
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Post Post #44 (ISO) » Mon Jun 20, 2022 6:48 am

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You got put at E-2 on page 1.
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Post Post #45 (ISO) » Mon Jun 20, 2022 6:53 am

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? Didn't/ don't they have the same votes on them as korina does?

I don't understand anything so far.
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Post Post #46 (ISO) » Mon Jun 20, 2022 6:58 am

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In post 44, furtiveglance wrote:You got put at E-2 on page 1.
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Post Post #47 (ISO) » Mon Jun 20, 2022 6:59 am

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I probably will make outrageous claim, but i won't hammer before vengefuls claim.

There's literally no reason for them to NOT. Otherwise i challenge you to internet boxing fight right now.
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Post Post #48 (ISO) » Mon Jun 20, 2022 7:20 am

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Actually let's do it funny way.

Play game like normal, and on 3 days before deadline force Vengefuls to claim. Therefore we will know who could tried push them and vice versa.
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Post Post #49 (ISO) » Mon Jun 20, 2022 7:20 am

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Problem is i suck at playing mafia but that's different question tbh.

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