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[Dwlee99]

Marci obvscum

[Dwlee99]

VOTE: Stop getting banned

[Dwlee99]

i dont wanna play as confirmed town; i always think thats so boring
and the other one i think ill mix up what we've gotta do often

But it looks like you were doing an "oops" thing and now I want to vote you out

[Dwlee99]

wtf dwlee how you going to pick a place alrdy

If you loved me you'd help me kill Marci

[Dwlee99]

Based

[Dwlee99]

Why Luke he called out Marci first

[Dwlee99]

wtf dwlee how you going to pick a place alrdy

If you loved me you'd help me kill Marci

I'm tempted to join just to help you yeet this Canadian but my talents might be needed elsewhere

I kinda want you to play conftown or 1v1 so I can read it after

Why Luke he called out Marci first

its fake distancing bullshit if luke actually BELIEVED that shit he would've gotten his modkit and jumped into SGB to yeet her

i dont wanna play as confirmed town; i always think thats so boring
and the other one i think ill mix up what we've gotta do often

But it looks like you were doing an "oops" thing and now I want to vote you out

the only opps wouldve been my embarassment from having something not xount

glad we prevented that!

ok

[Dwlee99]

my brain told me the other 2 werent as fun as stop getting banned

Overjustification

[Dwlee99]

Marci isn't solving

[Dwlee99]

what is there that i should be using to solve right now? its page 4 and not even everyone has checked in..

I solved

[Dwlee99]

i think dwlees scummy

i think they came in with a fixed mindset to push me (scum would want to do this because historically im a pretty easy miselim cuz ill just egg it on LMAO), theyre applying logic to me that could be applied to other players and are using it to call me scummy.
theyre using "oh marcis not solving" as a backing reason, which honestly doesnt seem like its in good faith using it at this point of time, not everyones in SERIOUS MODE yet. + theres been games of mine where i act EXACTLY like this early on until i find something to latcg onto, and I think they know that.

But you did a scummy thing and then didn't do anything townie so you're still scummy why does that not make sense

[Dwlee99]

yeah - but like - you did a scummy thing with the stop getting banned channel sooo....

Town

[Dwlee99]

Skimming through, I too am a little underwhelmed by marcistar's explanation on selection. "Think I'd mix things up [in Sillyposting]" doesn't sound like a real reason, and I'm surprised she doesn't find the idea interesting.

I also thought Dwlee99's jump to SGB instantly with her was bizarre. Dwlee has two paces of play they can go to but it seems purely reactionary to marcistar and not at all rooted in what the minigames themselves are. I expect Dwlee to know those instant reads are a starting place and picking the game instantly as a result of one is questionable.

I don't say all of my thoughts

[Dwlee99]

Dwlee going after Marci feels like Batman going after the Joker

I love that zero hesitation go on the hunt style play

Spoiler: me rn

[Dwlee99]

if u r trying to say you have pocketed me that is cheeky af

I'm the cat but you can be the cat too if you want :^)

I hope you're willing to share more about your selection tomorrow.

Yes that is the plan

[Dwlee99]

oh thats why i forgot about it!

i could see that as a valid line of view meanwhile i think dwlees just bullshitting theirs
i think u had a bit more spice behind ur read than they did

Marci, and you quote something from dwlee that makes you think this and tell me what makes their line of view less valid then mine?

I am struggling to see what distinction you are drawing between us, other then the fact that they went to you game, and me and pooky didn't.

Marci needs to set up to push me in our game, she can do whatever in yours especially to try to get townreads that permeate to our game

[Dwlee99]

This might sound bizarre but I think that the interactions between Dwlee and marci seem like they are aligned, possibly even scum together.
What does everybody else think?

i wanna know what made you think this.

im pretty sure at this point their push on me is partly in fact that theyre scum and partly fact they seem to hate me

Bruh what makes you think I hate you vs just think you're scum?

[Dwlee99]

Marci needs to set up to push me in our game, she can do whatever in yours especially to try to get townreads that permeate to our game

why do i NEED to push you?!?!?!?

Because we are going to SGB and then I'm going to push you and you need to convince the third person I'm scum?

[Dwlee99]

This might sound bizarre but I think that the interactions between Dwlee and marci seem like they are aligned, possibly even scum together.
What does everybody else think?

i wanna know what made you think this.

im pretty sure at this point their push on me is partly in fact that theyre scum and partly fact they seem to hate me

Bruh what makes you think I hate you vs just think you're scum?

?? I don't see how your plays around me this game are town motivated

also ive felt like u hate me for awhile but ive just never pointed it out. to me its pretty obvious, you always find a way to come after me no matter what anyone else tells you.
idk what i ever did to you

I think you're scum. I am pushing you. I think it's straight forward.

On the personal note I definitely don't hate you or even dislike you. I enjoy playing with you. I don't really even remember particularly pushing you in the past but my memory isn't great? If I scumread you a lot repeatedly it was probably just that I scumread your playstyle and not about you personally at all

[Dwlee99]

Marci still scum more after my hike

[Dwlee99]

Jk I'm going to sleep xd

[Dwlee99]

Dwlee going after Marci feels like Batman going after the Joker

I love that zero hesitation go on the hunt style play

Spoiler: me rn

Well this aged like milk

[Dwlee99]

I think we should resolve MD next (and we should have first anyway). Gonna reassess Pooky egging me on

[Dwlee99]

i think dragons is trying to think thru as many possiblitieieieieieieis as he can so i think thats townie :>

dwlees absence from thread just really makes them super scummy tbhs

Me busy
Did sightseeing, eating, hiking, sleeping, and work

maybe i tunneling on dwlee too much but i dont really have much reason to think otherwise,
i dont see anything wrong in rh9s plays rn, so im curious about dragons read there alot!! everything hes said as of recently is confusing me LOL

If I was scum why would I swap you out of my game?

[Dwlee99]

I think that since Pooky flipped, it's likely that scum!Pooky with his expertise and experience, made a plan and convinced marci and Dwlee to follow along.
It's likely that Dwlee had intentionally joined marci so that Town, not expecting two scum to engage in such a risky behaviour, would view this as unaligned. I also think that Pooky engineered his interactions with both so that when Sillyposting flipped (as is the norm), whoever the Town are in SGB would be convinced that Dwlee was Town.
I think that swapping marci was always the plan but when it came out that they needed to swap marci into MD, the scum decided to leave you with her, because I had already suggested my belief that marci and Dwlee was aligned and "possibly even scum together".

Only someone who hasn't played with scum Pooky would think he tells his teammates what to do or makes overarching plans

[Dwlee99]

By the way, what does everybody think of a Pooky-marci-Dwlee team?
I'm leaning there right now.

Why was Pooky in here?

[Dwlee99]

i still think rh9 is thinking of things backwards,

clearly faker is just egging them on.

This doesn't even sound like you believe the second sentence

[Dwlee99]

if faker is scum her engagement of pooky had to have been theatre as well. which is a hard pill to swallow. so maybe it is marci.

This is incongruent with you casting my interactions with Pooky as theater

[Dwlee99]

@RH9 so you scumread Pooky because Luke said so?

@Marci except if I'm tunneled on you it would be a way easier game for me as scum and I don't think you'd be able to convince the third to vote me out, so it still doesn't make sense if I'm scum to swap you out

[Dwlee99]

You're not really demonstrating that "hamness" against prism rn. It's not that I think you're bad it's just I'm clearly aimed to push you to win my game if I'm scum so why would I just go out of that and then force myself to deal with RH9 (who scumreads me but I wasn't pushing) and STD?

[Dwlee99]

I think maybe they could be players you would think you could take on/convince.

If that was true why wouldn't I keep you in there and convince them to vote you lol

[Dwlee99]

Marci is pretty obviously scum imo. It's not beyond Pooky to egg on town trying to kill his partner, he literally got his partner vigged before, and Marci's play is full of inconsistent reasonings with weirdly placed AtE

[Dwlee99]

Marci is pretty obviously scum imo. It's not beyond Pooky to egg on town trying to kill his partner, he literally got his partner vigged before, and Marci's play is full of inconsistent reasonings with weirdly placed AtE

Do you really believe this Dwlee? Is that a conclusion you've come to naturally?

You literally pointed out the same problems with Marci's posts that I am referencing here. Not sure what you're expecting me to say when she is not playing like town at all

[Dwlee99]

Jesus

[Dwlee99]

I haven't read in a bit

Spoiler: gay pikachu

[Dwlee99]

Maybe RH9 cause Pooky tmi

Also cause swapping marci and RH allows RH to push me through marci

[Dwlee99]

By the way, what does everybody think of a Pooky-marci-Dwlee team?
I'm leaning there right now.

@RH9 so you scumread Pooky because Luke said so?

Yeah.
You got me.
It was mainly because of that.

@Faker

[Dwlee99]

dwlee does seem a bit better lately, but they're still the scummiest of the stop getting banned bunch.

dwlee -> rh9 -> dragons

everyones jump onto rh9 lately makes me wary of that push.

What have I done better

[Dwlee99]

To be honest right now, I would want Dwlee to vote before STD.
I trust him more not to quickhammer.

I thought we are trying to resolve the other game first?

[Dwlee99]

Oh I misread the right now

[Dwlee99]

It's kinda cool how my little notice thing and then prism notices the deeper thing etc. but beyond the cool prism is actually solving to notice that

[Dwlee99]

dwlee does seem a bit better lately, but they're still the scummiest of the stop getting banned bunch.

dwlee -> rh9 -> dragons

everyones jump onto rh9 lately makes me wary of that push.

What have I done better

ur posting more!!! : DD

SIKE

[Dwlee99]

It's nice of Dwlee99 but it's not like I don't solve or put in effort tracking as scum; my entire shtick is out-solving the town to strongarm and then use that position to control where attention goes. If RH9 is town and I'd be advancing a miselim great, but bussing is also pretty free for me with how the game currently is.

Mostly still a holding pattern here for me on SGB. Dragons is still a townlean after our last set of interactions.

Except this was pretty niche. I mean there's some metric for which you are different as town surely lol

[Dwlee99]

It's nice of Dwlee99 but it's not like I don't solve or put in effort tracking as scum; my entire shtick is out-solving the town to strongarm and then use that position to control where attention goes. If RH9 is town and I'd be advancing a miselim great, but bussing is also pretty free for me with how the game currently is.

Mostly still a holding pattern here for me on SGB. Dragons is still a townlean after our last set of interactions.

what posts

840 and 844
He showed active attempts to solve and sort players in those posts.

I think this is overstated

[Dwlee99]

Ignore first quote ??

[Dwlee99]

Skimming through, I too am a little underwhelmed by marcistar's explanation on selection. "Think I'd mix things up [in Sillyposting]" doesn't sound like a real reason, and I'm surprised she doesn't find the idea interesting.

I also thought Dwlee99's jump to SGB instantly with her was bizarre. Dwlee has two paces of play they can go to but it seems purely reactionary to marcistar and not at all rooted in what the minigames themselves are. I expect Dwlee to know those instant reads are a starting place and picking the game instantly as a result of one is questionable.

I don't say all of my thoughts

I'd like you to revisit your pregame thoughts on playing around the minigames now, if you don't mind.

My plan here was sort of WIFOMy. By exaggerating my confidence in Marci!scum it meant that scum's swap gives us info. If Marci and I are TvT, scum are more likely to not swap us out, because they'll want me to lim her. If she is scum then she either has to not swap and appeal to "why would I not swap" or swap and argue frame job.

The other part of it is ego because I wanted to be in the hardest game

[Dwlee99]

If I recall correctly, the reason you thought Dragons was town was because my attitude towards him, rather than the actual posts of his.

funny cuz i dont remember delving deep into the reasons

maybe only a brief touch but

Clearly Marci explained it to faker in the scum pt

[Dwlee99]

If Meuh votes Marci our game will become more interesting probably

[Dwlee99]

Still feel RH9

Catching up now

[Dwlee99]

not necessarily. i don't have a good memory so I don't remember dwlees scumgame at all.

i just think in general, scum don't like attention drawn to them.
is that not something that lines up with what dwlees doing right now? only posting when they

need

to? : D

You could also go look at any of my scum games

[Dwlee99]

Okay, Meuh, this should be very useful for you

vote count 1.03

with 3 possible channels to be assigned to, it takes 2 full channels to end the day. day 1 deadline is in (expired on 2022-06-23 12:30:00).

assignments

Sillyposting [3]:

Lukewarm, PookyTheMagicalBear, PenguinPower

[HAMMER]

Mafia Discussion [0]:

Stop Getting Banned [2]:

marcistar, Dwlee99

unassigned [4]:

RH9, Save the Dragons, Faker, Meuh

mod notes

~ highlighting one of the rules here: if the day deadline runs out, the hackers will immediately win.
~ this is a mod note.

highlighting one of the rules here: if the day deadline runs out, the hackers will immediately win.

I'm a bit concerned by this, it's already not possible in this game but this entails configurations such that scum can automatically force a win Day 1. It is actually pretty trivial for them to do so; if town are split into a configuration of exactly 1-1-1 with scum unassigned the scum have already won the game.

Perhaps this was intentional, but in my ruleset that was why I required at least one town player remaining unassigned for this to kick in.

I am the one to flag the potential autoloss here from a scum votesplit. 2 out of 3 of the current SGB players (ie. 2 of the 3 players I can be partnered with) aren't voting. I instantly point out the scum autowin loophole and how to exploit it.

There is a good chance I can with on the spot here with a non-Dwlee99 partner. You wanted MD and I had already encouraged you to go that direction, all we need to do is wait and see what the town player does. Not only do I not do that, I instantly point it out (It was not possible FMPOV because a scumteam could not stop me from hammering SGB, not that it was technically impossible for a team to do so)

This post is only one minute after the vote count, never once did I have to consider that I personally could win this game with it.

Looking back, it seems like it was in the early votecounts as well, but I think it's obvious (quoting that VC specifically, timing) that this was the first time it came to my attention.

If y'all have doubts fivehead

[Dwlee99]

Gonna reassess Pooky egging me on

did you ever do this

Yea when I considered pooky's bussing history from games we were in together

[Dwlee99]

Clear

Dwlee, when you finish your catch-up, what do you think of Faker's clear?

Just got it to oops I got distracted, prism could have just hammered there instead of not if she's scum? What thoughts do I need to have about it?

[Dwlee99]

I don't get the point of 1055 unless it's to try to get Faker limmed despite being conftown

[Dwlee99]

Clear

Dwlee, when you finish your catch-up, what do you think of Faker's clear?

Just got it to oops I got distracted, prism could have just hammered there instead of not if she's scum? What thoughts do I need to have about it?

I was wanted to ask you if Faker's clear had any influence on your reads. That's all.

Hmm ok

[Dwlee99]

Spoiler:

Marci obvscum

i dont wanna play as confirmed town; i always think thats so boring
and the other one i think ill mix up what we've gotta do often

But it looks like you were doing an "oops" thing and now I want to vote you out

wtf dwlee how you going to pick a place alrdy

If you loved me you'd help me kill Marci

Why Luke he called out Marci first

wtf dwlee how you going to pick a place alrdy

If you loved me you'd help me kill Marci

I'm tempted to join just to help you yeet this Canadian but my talents might be needed elsewhere

I kinda want you to play conftown or 1v1 so I can read it after

Why Luke he called out Marci first

its fake distancing bullshit if luke actually BELIEVED that shit he would've gotten his modkit and jumped into SGB to yeet her

i dont wanna play as confirmed town; i always think thats so boring
and the other one i think ill mix up what we've gotta do often

But it looks like you were doing an "oops" thing and now I want to vote you out

the only opps wouldve been my embarassment from having something not xount

glad we prevented that!

ok

my brain told me the other 2 werent as fun as stop getting banned

Overjustification

Marci isn't solving

what is there that i should be using to solve right now? its page 4 and not even everyone has checked in..

I solved

i think dwlees scummy

i think they came in with a fixed mindset to push me (scum would want to do this because historically im a pretty easy miselim cuz ill just egg it on LMAO), theyre applying logic to me that could be applied to other players and are using it to call me scummy.
theyre using "oh marcis not solving" as a backing reason, which honestly doesnt seem like its in good faith using it at this point of time, not everyones in SERIOUS MODE yet. + theres been games of mine where i act EXACTLY like this early on until i find something to latcg onto, and I think they know that.

But you did a scummy thing and then didn't do anything townie so you're still scummy why does that not make sense

Dwlee going after Marci feels like Batman going after the Joker

I love that zero hesitation go on the hunt style play

It's Pooky-Dwlee-Marci, yeah?

This is Dwlee's first post and it's an unconventional tunnel on Marci and it's a distancing play that's compatible with how scum would need to win this game.

Unconventional because Dwlee doesn't go that hard like that especially in the start of a game. They're more of a "let me adjust to the people around me" type of guy.

I've explained why I did it like this. I did think Marci was scummy but the over-the-top aspect of it was a bluff to influence scum swaps

[Dwlee99]

Clear

Dwlee, when you finish your catch-up, what do you think of Faker's clear?

Just got it to oops I got distracted, prism could have just hammered there instead of not if she's scum? What thoughts do I need to have about it?

I don't get the point of 1055 unless it's to try to get Faker limmed despite being conftown

hey here's malicious framing!

I think it's malicious framing to call it malicious framing

[Dwlee99]

I would think sorting both slots that you'd have to reevaluate in a mini ELo is important for scum!Dwlee but apparently not.
It's not even rooted in anything it's just "pooky TMI" which was StD's read. Then he adds to it by framing a series of my posts in a specific scum agenda without recognizing town agenda.

This is a direct lie because I was the one that came up with the pooky tmi read, not STD. I don't think you're actually trying to solve or you'd have realized that

[Dwlee99]

Dwlee99, I'm curious about what you think of the marcistar interactions with RH9. My actual concern is that at a certain point she had phoned in the minigame and seemed to be making these half-defenses in the hopes of making him look bad.

Tinfoil? Probably.

I think it could go either way. I think if Marci was comfortable with the gamestate for scum she would have just stopped posting though

[Dwlee99]

Can you link the particular interactions you're talking about? I remember them happening but I want to find gamestate when they do

[Dwlee99]

Honestly, I think tracking through Dragons' read progression on you/me, against the timing of the minigames, is a lot more interesting. That's all on this page.

I just woke up and am still groggy but here's an example of what I mean about marci's posts, where her stance on RH9 starts verring towards a little too explicit:

dwlee does seem a bit better lately, but they're still the scummiest of the stop getting banned bunch.

dwlee -> rh9 -> dragons

everyones jump onto rh9 lately makes me wary of that push.

Okay I'll look at this

[Dwlee99]

Wait, I thought each day got a new amount of time?

[Dwlee99]

Oh day doesn't change when someone votes

It's still day 2

Okay I'll get on this before getting sidetracked

[Dwlee99]

VOTE: Save the dragons

[Dwlee99]

Soz

[Dwlee99]

replacements OP

[Dwlee99]

Felt like you got pretty invested for the little time you had

[Dwlee99]

I thought we were losing the game really hard until pooky managed to win sillyposting. What a legend