Open 856: Deputy cultists (Game over)

[RH9]

I'd definitely vote Cat if we thought we could get the votes.

Just worried about time.

That's true.
In the 12 hours left of the Day, most people are probably going to be asleep so I don't think that much vote will end up changing.
And Cat.Jpeg could always just vote Bella.

[Nathann]

By the way, Nathann, even though you're talking to Jacket, would you mind quoting the posts on your rationale on Beat?

324 and 341.

[Nathann]

I can't find Nathann's role in cults plan

I wonder why.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Nathan's role is to be the person who CCs the Vengeful as he likely had the most town cred out of the Cult. Otherwise, we had 3 conf town on D1.

[Nathann]

I'm kind of skeptical that Cult!Beat makes 412 when it seems likely that one of the people in the solve will get eliminated. If one of the people in there were to flip Town, she would be forced to re-evaluate, and I'm not sure Scum is likely to put themselves in that position voluntarily.

UNVOTE: Beat

BBT, do you want me to be your doublevoter for the Day? I think you're Town, and I think everyone is going to freak out wherever I vote voluntarily.

[RH9]

By the way, Nathann, even though you're talking to Jacket, would you mind quoting the posts on your rationale on Beat?

324 and 341.

Thanks.

I'm kind of skeptical that Cult!Beat makes 412 when it seems likely that one of the people in the solve will get eliminated. If one of the people in there were to flip Town, she would be forced to re-evaluate, and I'm not sure Scum is likely to put themselves in that position voluntarily.

I agree.
I think that that is one of her Towniest posts.
It feels unlikely that scum would try so hard to justify a solve and continue to push it.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Nathan, given that you know one of Jacket/RH9 is Cult, why have you put no work in to find CL from their posts?

[RH9]

I haven't really either to be fair.

[Nathann]

Nathan, given that you know one of Jacket/RH9 is Cult, why have you put no work in to find CL from their posts?

I don't think it's likely to be helpful. I currently think Jacket is a Cultist. I know he's a good Scum player, and since he was the one to claim Vengeful, I think he thought his posts wouldn't be incriminating for the Cult Leader if/when he dies. The only conclusion I can draw from his ISO that I'm relatively certain about is that he's not Cult with you, which is not exactly useful to me.

[Nathann]

And it's even less useful to everyone else, since not many people think Jacket is the one fakeclaiming.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

I don't understand the lack of effort but I guess if that's your viewpoint then so be it.

If it's me, I'm going through Jacket's posts with a fine tooth comb and trying to show town that I'm Vengeful and CL could be a, b or c because of x, y and z.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

8 hours left and Bella is leading.

I kind of want to elim Titus.

[RH9]

Why Titus?
She seems all right to me.
Though, still a null.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Because she hasn't done anything outside of theory posting

[Nathann]

I could do that. If I didn't have anything better to do today, I might would have. But it would just be analysis for analysis's sake, as I wouldn't exactly believe in it. Jacket is not a newbie.

My time might be better used arguing with you why claiming first as Cult could be beneficial.

[Nathann]

I think Titus is Town, but my offer still stands, BBT.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

It's not just claiming first though. It's the manner of it. It was frustrated, game is stagnant, this is boring, I claim Vengeful, hopefully something happens now.

Why do scum want to generate discussion/content?

[Nathann]

You're tunnelled on "this action generates discussion" when there's other benefits that would outweigh the discussion generated, the Day was not heading to a no-elimination anyway since plurality is in effect, and it was likely at least one of the Vengeful Townies was going to claim Today, which would've still generated the discussion, except Cult wouldn't have gotten any Towncred from it.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

OK, so at the time there wasn't really a leading wagon or a general thread wise push in any direction. So it's likely not a redirection/misdirection tactic.

What makes you think it was likely that a Vengeful would claim today?

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Thread wide push*

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Can you expand on the benefits for Cult claiming Vengeful first?

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Maybe it's Cat?

Just ISO'd and not seeing a whole lot of solving going on.

[furtiveglance]

That Bellaphant E-2 from Korina stands out to me as a culty move. I get the feeling Bella isn't CL based on the way some culty people are happy with this vote. I'm now convinced RH9 is a real vengeful, and agree that Cat.Jpeg is a better elimination.

UNVOTE: Nathann

VOTE: Cat.Jpeg

Let's do this!

[furtiveglance]

E-3 I mean*.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Who is Cult out of Jacket and Nathan, Furtive?