Open 856: Deputy cultists (Game over)

[RH9]

And if we miss CL today, things aren't bright for the future.

EBWOP
See 619 from Bella.

[Korina]

Why did vote-in-the-claims gang dissipate? Ppl voting outside the claims are living in dreamland, we have such a low chance of voting CL, especially since we know that one confirmed cultist (prob Prime but could be leader!) is in 3 people, the other 2 of which are town with KP (who could smoke the leader even if we vote wrong). What am I missing?

Killing a prime vengeful claim lets them recruit either:
1) a vengeful, therefore ending the game faster in cult’s favor
2) Enchant, which lets them end the game faster.

Who fucking cares the CL might be in that pool? The CL might not have claimed it at all.

You are so blatantly cult, I’m wondering why I’m trying to argue with you.

[Korina]

Actually, if we kill the prime vengeful claim, they always get Enchant because y’know, d4 decider.

If we kill a prime today, we have to kill Enchant tomorrow pretty much, which is not a good kill most of the time

[RH9]

Mostly joking. But 99% sure there has to be 'scum' in the Titus/furtive/korina group.

I agree definitely.
I think that at least one of the three is scum.

Going back to this, 626 and 627 makes me think that Korina should be taken out of the pool and scum is in Titus/furtive.

[Enchant]

Yep. They either convert me, or not convert me, knowing you will punch me anyway. Both these situations is bad for town. Did i mention i don't want Prime to die?


There's probably need to be rule forbidding "preparing" for culting, otherwise Governor have no incentive to NOT claim instantly (nevermind that vengefuls have zero utility expect for outing cultist or confirming self otherwise). Either winning as town fast, or winning as cult in long run, like anyone cares how to win.


Finding CL is hell. In my first game it was simple townreadbyeveryone who speak rarely.

[RH9]

Finding CL is hell. In my first game it was simple townreadbyeveryone who speak rarely.

Can you expand on this a bit?

[Enchant]

Finding CL is hell. In my first game it was simple townreadbyeveryone who speak rarely.

Can you expand on this a bit?

In first cult game i decided to "Hell out of it" and claimed my PR instantly, so no one will suspect i am Cult Leader for the end.


Everyone was pissed (lel), but my goal was pretty achieved. Cult didn't convert me before last night because they got other PR instead, but i was disbelieved for the end (with help of cult). Still improved our chances a bit.

Not me, not other town, not even cult mentioned CL for almost whole game, expect for brief "Yeah i think it's town makes sense". We just failed before Elo, and then jumped on first cultist who baited votes to allow CL winning convert. And then i was converted in a win, not because i am cool, just because i could prevent this convert and they wanted game ended ASAP without chance for me to ruin this. Yeah, cults are meh.


So anyway, if team is somewhat competent, CL is probably in list of townreads. But i don't know like what, we supposed to reverse reads or what. Titus smeells like Prime honestly, main accusation is low content, which is kinda NAI, this is suicide for CL.
Or i am plainly blind and can't play mafia. I guess it can't be helped.

[RH9]

Finding CL is hell. In my first game it was simple townreadbyeveryone who speak rarely.

Can you expand on this a bit?

In first cult game i decided to "Hell out of it" and claimed my PR instantly, so no one will suspect i am Cult Leader for the end.


Everyone was pissed (lel), but my goal was pretty achieved. Cult didn't convert me before last night because they got other PR instead, but i was disbelieved for the end (with help of cult). Still improved our chances a bit.

Not me, not other town, not even cult mentioned CL for almost whole game, expect for brief "Yeah i think it's town makes sense". We just failed before Elo, and then jumped on first cultist who baited votes to allow CL winning convert. And then i was converted in a win, not because i am cool, just because i could prevent this convert and they wanted game ended ASAP without chance for me to ruin this. Yeah, cults are meh.


So anyway, if team is somewhat competent, CL is probably in list of townreads. But i don't know like what, we supposed to reverse reads or what. Titus smeells like Prime honestly, main accusation is low content, which is kinda NAI, this is suicide for CL.
Or i am plainly blind and can't play mafia. I guess it can't be helped.

I see.

[RH9]

I better reevaluate my reads then.

[Enchant]

Most annoyingly they could know that and make CL act as most scummiest person so we call it prime bait and not elim.

Mafia is hard.

[RH9]

Most annoyingly they could know that and make CL act as most scummiest person so we call it prime bait and not elim.

Mafia is hard.

What if they already are?

[Enchant]

Exactly. What if.

Thankfully i am conftown and can just say it directly without being fastkilled for IQ of rock

They can, but it's like... I don't know, i considered every person and still have no idea.

[RH9]

Exactly. What if.

Thankfully i am conftown and can just say it directly without being fastkilled for IQ of rock

They can, but it's like... I don't know, i considered every person and still have no idea.

I feel like if Titus is Prime, then I should look into furtive again.
He has acted somewhat Town at times but at other times, I feel like I shouldn't be putting him so high up on my reads.
I mean my whole read on him has been iffy since 622.

[Titus]

If I get limmed, I get limmed. I feel like shit atm. Shocked I wasn't prodded. I would expect scum to be wking me.

[RH9]

If I get limmed, I get limmed. I feel like shit atm. Shocked I wasn't prodded. I would expect scum to be wking me.

What does "wking" mean?

[RH9]

TBH I feel like Titus is acting super defeatist.

[GoldfishFromTheMoon]

Vote count 2.3

Titus (3)

: Korina, BlueBloodedToffee, Nathann

Bellaphant (2)

: Beat, Jacket

Jacket (1)

: furtiveglance

furtiveglance (1)

: Enchant

Not voting (3)

: RH9, Bellaphant, Titus

With 10 alive it takes 6 to eliminate

Day 2 ends in: (expired on 2022-07-04 08:00:00)

[GoldfishFromTheMoon]

Prodding Jacket

[RH9]

TBH I feel like Titus is acting super defeatist.

I'm not sure I should vote or not vote her for this.

[RH9]

Her willingness seems too much like a Prime Cultist.

[Bellaphant]

VOTE: titus

Rh9, I don't know, it's giving me different vibes to korina who are times felt they wanted to be elimed. This could equally just be 'cl is hard ' Titus.

[RH9]

VOTE: titus

Rh9, I don't know, it's giving me different vibes to korina who are times felt they wanted to be elimed. This could equally just be 'cl is hard ' Titus.

I guess that it doesn't hurt.
VOTE: Titus

[Nathann]

I feel like Titus's defeatism is IRL-related and thus NAI.

I hate the fact furtive is still trying to pass the "let's eliminate in the CC's" thing and wouldn't mind seeing them gone either. Nor Titus, really.

[RH9]

I hate the fact furtive is still trying to pass the "let's eliminate in the CC's" thing and wouldn't mind seeing them gone either.

Would you want us to lim furtive then?

[Nathann]

We can do Titus first. I'm not really sure if that is Scum-indicative or stubborn-Townie-indicative.