Mini Normal 2275: Roguelikes - Day 3: Endgame!

[Eiralox]

@eira, loft/kenny/CW would be a hilariously clumsy scumteam so I doubt it. But loft with one of those two seems possible, with the third person being the duped town player along for the ride.

yeah it would be way too easy an solve. it's just an out there thing for me with patterns supporting it atm. as i said, not a pairing imma put money on today. i've made the mistake of calling scumteams out on D1 before and being way wrong. and kenny's latest input has slightly raised them in my estimation.

[Eiralox]

@kenny thanks. i'm still saying u only brought one relevant argument there before your vote, the other seems more analysis to me. but i'm not gonna split hairs about this atm, don't see that it's all that important a matter.

Ok thanks for expanding on CSF thing. I like your response here.

Was my wagon bigger than Loftwing's when u voted tho? a few people unvoted me before u voted, im not going to to backread now(im done with this 4 the day) but in my memory at the time u voted Loftwing wagon was either equal or bigger than eira wagon.

(screw it imma check)

Ok

#687 kenny votes

Here's the VC for the moment just before kenny voted Eira:

Eiralox (3): Confidently Wrong, Irrelephant11, Loftwing
Loftwing (3): FancyPants, Lowell, MalcolmTucker,
kennyk (1): BlueBloodedToffee
MalcolmTucker (1): Shoshin
BlueBloodedTofee (1): Malakittens
FancyPants (1): kennyk
Malakittens (1): Fredrick A. Campbell
Lowell (2): Eiralox, Cat Scratch fever

Forth: I try it in other words: If your number one suspect for scum has the longest wagon and your number two suspect the second longest, where would you vote?

so yeah at this point I have to blatantly state that both my and Loftwing's wagons were of equal length.

[Cat Scratch Fever]

Third: CSF's vote change was out of the blue. I found absolutely no clue as to why it happened. There was no reason given. Between CSF voting you and changing back to Lowell there were exactly three posts by CSF: CW is town; CSF's too cute to be scum; answer to my question regarding Mala. That's the thing that felt odd and not the fact that the vote went from you to Lowell. Why you think I am unhappy with CSF's change is beyond me.

I never really felt confident that Eira was scum. I just voted there, because I was bored and wanted to see what would happen

I'm pretty sure I switched my vote soon after

[Cat Scratch Fever]

Eiralox does have players outside of his nullbin, or at least I assume that's what they meant. So why not then seperate either kenny or cw from the nullbin then, is my current objection.

Why is this scummy behavior?

[Irrelephant11]

If Loftwing flips red at any point I will probably act as if I got an inno on CSF

[kennyk]

Okay I admit that my memory wasn't right about the actual length of the wagons. But my point is just as valid with equal length wagons .

[Shoshin]

VOTE: Loftwing

[Loftwing]

Summary of loftwing these past few pages: they basically state theyre not gonna hunt scum and only do effort to darken folk who already git wagons. They only focus on eira, pushing fred, asking why the shift of eira? Nothing looks good here.

Where did I definitively state that I would never, under any circumstance, say I would ever hunt scum? This is a falsehood that is wholly untrue. I have yet to say this, and moreover, it would be a ridiculous thing to say.

[Shoshin]

What're your reads, Loft?

[Loftwing]

VOTE: Loftwing

welp at least now vc is accu. I see no solving from loftwing. I see no relish for the hunt. The fact that kenny and loft are now voting together should be noted.

Dont expect much more from me today.

This is accurate. I am not currently solving the game, instead riding the waves and seeing where it takes me.

[Shoshin]

I am not currently solving the game, instead riding the waves and seeing where it takes me.

Behold, a scum.

[Loftwing]

What're your reads, Loft?

Town

Fredrick A Campbell
Confidently Wrong
---
Cat Scratch Fever
BlueBloodedToffee
Lowell
Irrelephant11
MalcolmTucker
Shoshin
Malakittens
---
kennyk
FancyPants
Eiralox

Scum

[Loftwing]

I am not currently solving the game, instead riding the waves and seeing where it takes me.

Behold, a scum.

Is there a problem with not trying too hard, because I am too busy for this game?

[Shoshin]

Scum are the ones who don't try to solve the game.

[Loftwing]

Scum are the ones who don't try to solve the game.

Scum are the ones who try to hide this fact, yet here I am, flaying this fact open for all to see.

[FancyPants]

What're your reads, Loft?

Town

Fredrick A Campbell
Confidently Wrong
---
Cat Scratch Fever
BlueBloodedToffee
Lowell
Irrelephant11
MalcolmTucker
Shoshin
Malakittens
---
kennyk
FancyPants
Eiralox

Scum

Do you think my interactions with KennyK come across as scummy?

[Loftwing]

What're your reads, Loft?

Town

Fredrick A Campbell
Confidently Wrong
---
Cat Scratch Fever
BlueBloodedToffee
Lowell
Irrelephant11
MalcolmTucker
Shoshin
Malakittens
---
kennyk
FancyPants
Eiralox

Scum

Do you think my interactions with KennyK come across as scummy?

I just don't enjoy your vibes in general, but I could go into a deeper analysis when I'm not about to sleep.

[Malakittens]

I mean just because you don’t like his vibes doesn’t mean that they are schm

[FancyPants]

What're your reads, Loft?

Town

Fredrick A Campbell
Confidently Wrong
---
Cat Scratch Fever
BlueBloodedToffee
Lowell
Irrelephant11
MalcolmTucker
Shoshin
Malakittens
---
kennyk
FancyPants
Eiralox

Scum

Do you think my interactions with KennyK come across as scummy?

I just don't enjoy your vibes in general, but I could go into a deeper analysis when I'm not about to sleep.

Please do when you have time on Saturday just your justification for the scum reads.

[Confidently Wrong]

Good morning i slept all day

The people tunneling on loftwing need to stop when scum eira is right there.

I also am untownlocking irrelephant until they can explain where their mind went from Eira to Loftwing - I did not feel good about the last few pages and how they treated certain slots suddenly.

[Confidently Wrong]

Shoshin i will be extremely dissapointed if you help town lose this game because you think your solutions are the only correct ones.

[Confidently Wrong]

Loftwing i get the vibes thing on Fancy but im pretty sure they are town
I know you're trying your best to help people find you and I'm sorry there are stubborn townies this game being unfair to thay and intentionally ignoring it.

[FancyPants]

It's hard to vote off Loftwing based on your input because your reasoning for him being Town is meta related, and when I did my dive (admittedly before I knew he was an alt) I didn't find the same.

As for your case on Eira I think I understand your jist but what I don't see is why "Eira is just wrong and bad at cases." is a worse explanation. Additionally it's partially supported by your surety of everyone else's alignment (you could only know Eira is making reads based on knowing everyone's alignment if you ALSO know everyone's alignment, I hope that makes sense).
I understand you could just be that sure of yourself, or at least pretending to be but it's kinda weird and difficult to just sheep.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

I'm so far behind in this game, only read properly up to page 11.

Loftwing wagon seems bad though, likely scum on that push. Gonna try my best to catch up today

[Confidently Wrong]

It's hard to vote off Loftwing based on your input because your reasoning for him being Town is meta related, and when I did my dive (admittedly before I knew he was an alt) I didn't find the same.

As for your case on Eira I think I understand your jist but what I don't see is why "Eira is just wrong and bad at cases." is a worse explanation. Additionally it's partially supported by your surety of everyone else's alignment (you could only know Eira is making reads based on knowing everyone's alignment if you ALSO know everyone's alignment, I hope that makes sense).
I understand you could just be that sure of yourself, or at least pretending to be but it's kinda weird and difficult to just sheep.

I'm willing to compromise on Lowell as a "let's avoid loftwing vs eira" thing.

I'm not feeling Loftwing *at all* and I'm seeing their towngame here.

VOTE: Lowell

also BBT's last post being actually towny making me feel better about untownlocking irrelephant in my reads... because now I got a wild potential world of Irrelephant/Eira/Lowell