Mini Normal 2275: Roguelikes - Day 3: Endgame!

[Confidently Wrong]

After looking up some rules about normals I see that neighbourizer can be a scum aligned role (but is usually pro-town).
I'm looking for guidance from a more experienced player I'm pretty sure is town, so CW or Irrelevant basically, although I'll take input from anyone.

It's inclusion is exactly null usually

[Confidently Wrong]

After looking up some rules about normals I see that neighbourizer can be a scum aligned role (but is usually pro-town).
I'm looking for guidance from a more experienced player I'm pretty sure is town, so CW or Irrelevant basically, although I'll take input from anyone.

It's inclusion is exactly null usually

[FancyPants]

Yeah OK.
VOTE: Lowell

[MalcolmTucker]

UNVOTE: Loftwing

Loftwing has offered us nothing. they've been.... openly non-committal. Seeing as it's at -1 im unvoting to give Loft time, some1 might go on and hammer anyway at this point and i don't see the value in that. at least.... try.



but in a twisted way loftwing can still flip town so idk..... will i vote there again? lowell wagon... no. fred? i can totally see scum fred, but the fact that they thoroughly asked me to share my viewpoint then shifted to mala is.... something which makes me wary of mobbing fred 2day.

So loftwing idk i mean i guess my vote can shift back to u at this point, i'm not having options atm. but i wann at least give you time... if u do nothing impressive in the interim well meh.

Unless Eiralox is gambling on Loftwing going out anyway/can rely on the wagon being pushed through by fellow scum, this is an incredibly townie post given Eiralox has been under pressure themselves and has been a possible elimination for the latter half of day one. Even if they don't feel they can vote Loftwing if the slot is town, I don't think there would be any benefit for scum actively leaving the wagon at the moment.

This post seems to exclusively assume loftwing will flip town - why?

It's not, I'm explaining why I don't think Eiralox is scum by reasoning why they wouldn't back off Loftwing if they were.

You didn’t consider that Eiralox and loftwing were svs

If loftwing flipped scum (which you should be considering giving you’re voting for them), what would you conclude about Eiralox’s alignment

Catching up, but my reasoning here is scum Eiralox wouldn't have voted Loftwing in the first place and would surely try to deflect attention onto another counterwagon altogether.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

You know you hit scum when you face solid resistance.

[MalcolmTucker]

UNVOTE: Loftwing

Trusting this claim.

[MalcolmTucker]

I've not particularly SR'd Fredrick for most of the game (found the slot hard to read initially), but I think BBT is very much town, going to take a proper look at their case on Fredrick and see where I stand.

Lowell's posting hasn't screamed townie at me, but some of their recent responses don't indicate a scum player trying to stay on the good side of town either.

[Confidently Wrong]

I've not particularly SR'd Fredrick for most of the game (found the slot hard to read initially), but I think BBT is very much town, going to take a proper look at their case on Fredrick and see where I stand.

Lowell's posting hasn't screamed townie at me, but some of their recent responses don't indicate a scum player trying to stay on the good side of town either.

Fredrick is town, probably PR, we are NOT voting there.

he has clearly played in a non agenda way do not fucking counterwagon them last second.,

[MalcolmTucker]

I've not particularly SR'd Fredrick for most of the game (found the slot hard to read initially), but I think BBT is very much town, going to take a proper look at their case on Fredrick and see where I stand.

Lowell's posting hasn't screamed townie at me, but some of their recent responses don't indicate a scum player trying to stay on the good side of town either.

Fredrick is town, probably PR, we are NOT voting there.

he has clearly played in a non agenda way do not fucking counterwagon them last second.,

Sorry but I don't like that you're continually saying this, I spotted it on the previous page and didn't mention it there in case it got pulled up by anyone else, but why are you casually indicating that you think someone is a PR here? If you're town then this is surely a terrible strategy if scum haven't clocked on at all yet when Fredrick's not necessarily on the verge of definitely being eliminated.

I think BBT's reasoning for why Fredrick couldn't be scum is pretty solid to be honest - their posting so far hadn't necessarily struck me as such but scum like to hide and trying to blend in with the town is obviously a common strategy. Of Lowell/Fredrick at the moment, I'd prefer a Fredrick elimination personally because I'm not convinced Lowell's posting at the moment is coming from scum. Are there any posts convincing you Fredrick is town here?

[Confidently Wrong]

I honestly am getting fed up with your indecisiveness and insistence to not listen to me at all. you are very easily pulled into weird LHF pushes.

Stop playing pro scum and vote lowell instead of trying to classify weird play as scummy.

[Confidently Wrong]

I can clearly see what you qualify as scummy and you need to stop projecting.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Fredrick is town, probably PR, we are NOT voting there.

he has clearly played in a non agenda way do not fucking counterwagon them last second.,

We're very much voting there, actually. You're gonna have to walk me through how Frederick is town.

He has played in a non-agenda way? What are you talking about? He has sheeped you or Irrelephant the entire game. He has barely shown any original thought and his whole agenda has been to elim LHF.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

I honestly am getting fed up with your indecisiveness and insistence to not listen to me at all. you are very easily pulled into weird LHF pushes.

Stop playing pro scum and vote lowell instead of trying to classify weird play as scummy.

Weird LHF??? Hahaha, like Fred hasn't spent all game doing that? Give me a break

Lowell is a lot more like LHF than Fred is.

[Confidently Wrong]

I honestly am getting fed up with your indecisiveness and insistence to not listen to me at all. you are very easily pulled into weird LHF pushes.

Stop playing pro scum and vote lowell instead of trying to classify weird play as scummy.

Weird LHF??? Hahaha, like Fred hasn't spent all game doing that? Give me a break

Lowell is a lot more like LHF than Fred is.

Why is Lowell town?

Explain right now.

[Confidently Wrong]

I believe they are scum because their progression is fake and completely absent.

Except like maybe 1 or 2 organic looking read changes the rest are just jagged progression that clearly is just trying to sheep town consensus wagons onto other townies.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Are you serious about the sheeping?

Read my case on Fred and tell me that's not what they have done ALL GAME

[Confidently Wrong]

Nevermind the fact lowell has completely ignored me this whole game while I have pushed them probably the hardest - a fun little tactic.

Lowell/Eira are blatantly paired and Fred is in my townblock. I will vehemently oppose fred unless you have an actual good case there.

[Confidently Wrong]

So you believe Irrelephant scum?

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Not at all.

I give a better case on Fred than you have on Lowell based on the exact same reasoning.

[Confidently Wrong]

Your case implies Irrelephant scum which is why I'm asking because I believe that slot is actually not as town as I first believed.

I admit I'm mostly scumreading Lowell for how they defend Eira in such a subtle yet overt manner.

Fredrick is also here defending Eira without explaination.

TBH

I feel a little less against it purely for the fact Fredrick has gone against my own reads so

[Confidently Wrong]

fuck it
VOTE: Fredrick

I see it now.

[Confidently Wrong]

if this flips town pls turbo eira/lowell tho

i think BBT's reasoning on this was town motivated even if it leads to an incorrect conclusion

[BlueBloodedToffee]

My case implies Fred has been sheeping the loudest (and most widely town read) players like Irrelephant and yourself.

Join the good fight. Vote Fred.

[FancyPants]

I don't wanna.
I don't think there's enough there.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Show me a better case