Open 855: Not Mafia's Republic | Game Over

Arete Lastname · Post Post #1850 (ISO) » Tue Jul 05, 2022 5:46 pm

also I'm clear of being partnered with SPF because I'm incapable of having nuanced or thoughtful progressions on my scum partners

staypositivefriend · Post Post #1851 (ISO) » Tue Jul 05, 2022 5:47 pm

that said, i will vote arete today if it comes down to it, especially since they've said that they're willing to vote for me, lol. im just capable of reading a room and i understand that most people here dont know how to read me, so i perceive pushing within nm/penguin to give myself a higher chance of surviving than pushing on arete

PookyTheMagicalBear · Post Post #1852 (ISO) » Tue Jul 05, 2022 5:47 pm

well if you are wolf with arete or wolf with sabihydra then yea you kind of are aiming at the area where mafia are most concentrated and refusing to hunt within townblok

PookyTheMagicalBear · Post Post #1853 (ISO) » Tue Jul 05, 2022 5:47 pm

In post 1850, Arete Lastname wrote:also I'm clear of being partnered with SPF because I'm incapable of having nuanced or thoughtful progressions on my scum partners

she literally just said she does insane scum theatre with her partners

staypositivefriend · Post Post #1854 (ISO) » Tue Jul 05, 2022 5:48 pm

In post 1843, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:ok SPF tell me how Arete/You are Town/Town SabiHydra is town and I'm town, r u saying Catboi is scum?

oh i dont know who the scum would be in that scenario and i dont really care tbh

definitely not catboi though

PookyTheMagicalBear · Post Post #1855 (ISO) » Tue Jul 05, 2022 5:48 pm

you understand there r 4 scum and 4 town right

you cannot convince me there r 5 town in this game

staypositivefriend · Post Post #1856 (ISO) » Tue Jul 05, 2022 5:48 pm

In post 1855, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:you understand there r 4 scum and 4 town right

you cannot convince me there r 5 town in this game

so?

staypositivefriend · Post Post #1857 (ISO) » Tue Jul 05, 2022 5:49 pm

i am hunting for the wolves. i do not care about who the mafia are rn at all

Arete Lastname · Post Post #1858 (ISO) » Tue Jul 05, 2022 5:49 pm

to be fair to SPF I don't think it really makes sense to view the sketchy crew as all having a 2/3 chance of being mafia and a 1/3 chance of being wolf I think it makes more sense to view STD as having a 1/1 chance of being mafia and the other two as being 50/50 coinflips

PookyTheMagicalBear · Post Post #1859 (ISO) » Tue Jul 05, 2022 5:49 pm

you need to present to me a world that makes sense where the wolves are in shadykrew for me to be willing to vote there

staypositivefriend · Post Post #1860 (ISO) » Tue Jul 05, 2022 5:50 pm

In post 1858, Arete Lastname wrote:to be fair to SPF I don't think it really makes sense to view the sketchy crew as all having a 2/3 chance of being mafia and a 1/3 chance of being wolf I think it makes more sense to view STD as having a 1/1 chance of being mafia and the other two as being 50/50 coinflips

this is what ive been saying for about 2 hours now but pooky does not seem to be internalizing it

PookyTheMagicalBear · Post Post #1861 (ISO) » Tue Jul 05, 2022 5:50 pm

like let's say you're right about Sabi being town and I'm right about Catboi being town

that's Arete/You being 1 wolf 1 townie

and Penguin/STD/NM being 2 Mafia 1 Wolf

I don't see why you would want to take a 50:50 shot in Peng/NM rather than yeet Arete who is conf-wolf to you

Arete Lastname · Post Post #1862 (ISO) » Tue Jul 05, 2022 5:51 pm

In post 1853, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:
In post 1850, Arete Lastname wrote:also I'm clear of being partnered with SPF because I'm incapable of having nuanced or thoughtful progressions on my scum partners
she literally just said she does insane scum theatre with her partners

the difference is that SPF is good at playing scum so her interactions with me don't clear us from being partners but I'm bad at playing scum so my interactions with her do clear us from being partners

which therefore transitively wraps around to meaning neither of us can be with the other

PookyTheMagicalBear · Post Post #1863 (ISO) » Tue Jul 05, 2022 5:51 pm

In post 1862, Arete Lastname wrote:
In post 1853, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:
In post 1850, Arete Lastname wrote:also I'm clear of being partnered with SPF because I'm incapable of having nuanced or thoughtful progressions on my scum partners
she literally just said she does insane scum theatre with her partners
the difference is that SPF is good at playing scum so her interactions with me don't clear us from being partners but I'm bad at playing scum so my interactions with her do clear us from being partners

which therefore transitively wraps around to meaning neither of us can be with the other

why r u even trying to convince me that you/spf r not s/s if you are town

staypositivefriend · Post Post #1864 (ISO) » Tue Jul 05, 2022 5:51 pm

arete is 100% not bad at playing scum lol, them lying about their scum meta is proly the wolfiest thing theyve said so far

staypositivefriend · Post Post #1865 (ISO) » Tue Jul 05, 2022 5:52 pm

In post 1861, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:like let's say you're right about Sabi being town and I'm right about Catboi being town

that's Arete/You being 1 wolf 1 townie

and Penguin/STD/NM being 2 Mafia 1 Wolf

I don't see why you would want to take a 50:50 shot in Peng/NM rather than yeet Arete who is conf-wolf to you

In post 1849, staypositivefriend wrote:chopping within nm/penguin today increases the odds that i dont die today (which is optimal for town), increases the odds that i spew myself as town by pushing on the wolf between them (which is optimal for town), and increases the odds that arete is forced to make the tough choice between bussing or protecting their partner (which is also optimal for town)

but yeah i just want to hunt for the mafia tbh!!! look at me being nefarious and underhanded

staypositivefriend · Post Post #1866 (ISO) » Tue Jul 05, 2022 5:53 pm

In post 1851, staypositivefriend wrote:that said, i will vote arete today if it comes down to it, especially since they've said that they're willing to vote for me, lol. im just capable of reading a room and i understand that most people here dont know how to read me, so i perceive pushing within nm/penguin to give myself a higher chance of surviving than pushing on arete

staypositivefriend · Post Post #1867 (ISO) » Tue Jul 05, 2022 5:53 pm

im just requoting my posts now because there's only so many times i can say literally the exact same thing before it gets old

PookyTheMagicalBear · Post Post #1868 (ISO) » Tue Jul 05, 2022 5:53 pm

so arete is 100% wolf to you

but you won't push them

because you think it will lead to you getting yeeted?

staypositivefriend · Post Post #1869 (ISO) » Tue Jul 05, 2022 5:54 pm

In post 1868, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:so arete is 100% wolf to you

but you won't push them

because you think it will lead to you getting yeeted?

that's not the only reason, but it's part of it, yeah

nm and penguin are objectively easier to get killed than arete and i also have a reasonable amount of faith in myself to figure out which one of them is wolfing

Arete Lastname · Post Post #1870 (ISO) » Tue Jul 05, 2022 5:54 pm

In post 1863, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:
In post 1862, Arete Lastname wrote:
In post 1853, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:
In post 1850, Arete Lastname wrote:also I'm clear of being partnered with SPF because I'm incapable of having nuanced or thoughtful progressions on my scum partners
she literally just said she does insane scum theatre with her partners
the difference is that SPF is good at playing scum so her interactions with me don't clear us from being partners but I'm bad at playing scum so my interactions with her do clear us from being partners

which therefore transitively wraps around to meaning neither of us can be with the other
why r u even trying to convince me that you/spf r not s/s if you are town

I'm worried about a world where you're town and you're like 'well SPF and Arete are partners so it doesn't matter which one we go for first' and vote me and scum!SPF + her actual partner + someone else all get together to hammer me because it "doesn't matter"

PookyTheMagicalBear · Post Post #1871 (ISO) » Tue Jul 05, 2022 5:55 pm

In post 1748, staypositivefriend wrote:the downside of this train of thought is that by townreading the people who are hardpushing on me and wolfreading the people who are avoiding pushing on me im probably making it even more likely that im gonna die today anyway

but i dont really care about self-preservation at this point tbh

this is what you literally said

now you're saying you won't vote arete cuz self-pres

like you can't even keep your story straight anymore

staypositivefriend · Post Post #1872 (ISO) » Tue Jul 05, 2022 5:55 pm

you have to understand that im approaching this from a very life or death perspective. i entered the thread being put at L-2 in a thread full of people who are just lazily calling me wolf and not even putting in any effort to reading me or figuring out my alignment

so i have to do what's best for the game to avoid getting killed and increase the chances that i'm able to spew myself as town. atm, i perceive that to be through pushing through the easy to find wolf in nm/penguin than by pushing the more difficult to find and widely townread wolf that is likely to be in arete

if i started off today on even footing with arete then there's a higher chance that i would just thunderdome with them, but the chips are already stacked against me, so im thinking in terms of what is optimal

PookyTheMagicalBear · Post Post #1873 (ISO) » Tue Jul 05, 2022 5:56 pm

In post 1870, Arete Lastname wrote:
In post 1863, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:
In post 1862, Arete Lastname wrote:
In post 1853, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:
In post 1850, Arete Lastname wrote:also I'm clear of being partnered with SPF because I'm incapable of having nuanced or thoughtful progressions on my scum partners
she literally just said she does insane scum theatre with her partners
the difference is that SPF is good at playing scum so her interactions with me don't clear us from being partners but I'm bad at playing scum so my interactions with her do clear us from being partners

which therefore transitively wraps around to meaning neither of us can be with the other
why r u even trying to convince me that you/spf r not s/s if you are town
I'm worried about a world where you're town and you're like 'well SPF and Arete are partners so it doesn't matter which one we go for first' and vote me and scum!SPF + her actual partner + someone else all get together to hammer me because it "doesn't matter"

is SPF 100% wolf to you yes or no?

Arete Lastname · Post Post #1874 (ISO) » Tue Jul 05, 2022 5:56 pm

In post 1864, staypositivefriend wrote:arete is 100% not bad at playing scum lol, them lying about their scum meta is proly the wolfiest thing theyve said so far

you were

in

Poisoner SPF

like that is

the game

that makes people reluctant to clear me but if you actually look at my posts that game I basically outed myself day 1 and lived to endgame by virtue of my partners just throwing themselves on grenades by not playing

and I had pretty terrible progressions on literally all of them, which was what I was talking about in that post