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Post Post #1075 (ISO) » Thu Jul 07, 2022 8:59 pm

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Day 2 town block is as follows:

Myself/Irrelephant/Malcom/Kenny

It's probably not Eira or Lowell either.

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Post Post #1076 (ISO) » Thu Jul 07, 2022 9:00 pm

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In post 1074, MalcolmTucker wrote:
In post 1073, FancyPants wrote:OK found the relevant interactions.

I start pushing the loftwing slot, I dislike his vote and then jump off of Kenny, when I ask CW why he TR's Loft he says:


(vibes and meta are his reason for townreading loft).

Later I make a big case on loft based on my meta read and the original kenny vote/unvote


CW reaffirms Loft is Town:


I do ask for a clarification here:


I don't believe he clarifies further and at this point starts a long back and forth between Eira.


For what it's worth I'm going to find it hard to come to terms with CW-scum but I do see the case, it's just a bit too
obvious
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Does town CW defend his scum buddy like this?
IDK,
I think it's perfectly possible presuming CW was banking on Loftwing not being eliminated.
Maybe. There was intent to hammer at one point though. The wagon was quite advanced.
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Post Post #1077 (ISO) » Thu Jul 07, 2022 9:08 pm

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VOTE: Kennyk with a wand of ennui
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Post Post #1078 (ISO) » Thu Jul 07, 2022 9:10 pm

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In post 1077, Eiralox wrote:VOTE: Kennyk with a wand of ennui
Let's make peace today OK?

Can you explain why you're voting Kenny?
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Post Post #1079 (ISO) » Thu Jul 07, 2022 9:36 pm

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the whispers.... the scrittering scratching at my tearing and rending all semblances of and as i might try but no the whispers the whispers yes follow the whispers
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Post Post #1080 (ISO) » Thu Jul 07, 2022 9:39 pm

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Got it.
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Post Post #1081 (ISO) » Thu Jul 07, 2022 10:05 pm

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I tend to agree with two of Malcolm`s four recent conclusions.

Although there is always the possibility that it was an expertly orchestrated scum thing, I for now agree, that Irrelephant`s constant push on Loft makes him townie.

CWs defence of Loft feels scummy. But I have to say, that it also feels like the previous game I had with their alt account. They were defending my slot from day 1 on in the same way and I was scum and they town. so with this meta info involved it could very well be within their town range. But it is definitely something to look at.

I don't think that BBT's defence of Loft is in any way scummy. Especially the "nearly half of the players were more lurking than Loft" feels very natural for a townie. Yes, BBT really started the Fred wagon, but I don't think, that anybody at that point felt like it could really get us to a (mis-)elim.

I have to totally disagree with the proposed townblock. And this is not due to the fact, that I am missing in it. I am far beyond the point of believing I could be a part of a townblock soon. I just can't believe that there isn`t at least one scum on that wagon. And the coincident, that Malcolm himself is in his proposed townblock. This lets me raise an eyebrow.

So Malcolm, why do you think, this is the townblockl we should go with (apart from the fact, that they were on a scum wagon)? I guess there`s no need to explain why you think Irrelephant should be a part of it.
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Post Post #1082 (ISO) » Thu Jul 07, 2022 10:15 pm

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In post 1075, FancyPants wrote:Day 2 town block is as follows:

Myself/Irrelephant/Malcom/Kenny

It's probably not Eira or Lowell either.

Last two scum are in:
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Why am I in there? And why is Malcolm?
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Post Post #1083 (ISO) » Thu Jul 07, 2022 10:19 pm

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In post 1079, Eiralox wrote:the whispers.... the scrittering scratching at my tearing and rending all semblances of and as i might try but no the whispers the whispers yes follow the whispers
Fancy might have gotten it. I don't. And by that I mean I genuinely don't get what you are trying to say by this at all. This might be due to the fact I am no native english speaker. I really tried to translate it, but it doesn't add up.
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Post Post #1084 (ISO) » Thu Jul 07, 2022 10:20 pm

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@Kenny, you're there because of the nature of the Loft wagon, you also did have loft as one of your scum reads you just don't like to vote (which I know from your meta).

@Malcom, Malcom is one of the most obvtown of all, he helped me form the loft wagon, voted early, and cleared Irrelephant first thing today (with reasoning I totally agree with).

I'm giving less credit to those who voted loft when the wagon already had momentum.
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Post Post #1085 (ISO) » Thu Jul 07, 2022 10:21 pm

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In post 1083, kennyk wrote:
In post 1079, Eiralox wrote:the whispers.... the scrittering scratching at my tearing and rending all semblances of and as i might try but no the whispers the whispers yes follow the whispers
Fancy might have gotten it. I don't. And by that I mean I genuinely don't get what you are trying to say by this at all. This might be due to the fact I am no native english speaker. I really tried to translate it, but it doesn't add up.
They are saying it's a gut read. It's just an Eira thing.
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Post Post #1086 (ISO) » Thu Jul 07, 2022 10:27 pm

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Also if anyone got any notification that Loftwing targeted them for neighbourizing they should let us know. I have no idea if the player would know this already.
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Post Post #1087 (ISO) » Thu Jul 07, 2022 10:46 pm

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In post 1075, FancyPants wrote:Day 2 town block is as follows:

Myself/Irrelephant/Malcom/Kenny

It's probably not Eira or Lowell either.

Last two scum are in:
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In post 1059, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:CW, why were you reading Loftwing as town?
Because sometimes i suck on d1 and was too generous with a townread there!
Now i can reeval rho

Fancy pants immediately saying I'm probably scum is indicative of an inability to think town can be wrong ;)
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Post Post #1088 (ISO) » Thu Jul 07, 2022 10:47 pm

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In post 1087, Confidently Wrong wrote: Fancy pants immediately saying I'm probably scum is indicative of an inability to think town can be wrong ;)
Are you sure this is directed at me?
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Post Post #1089 (ISO) » Thu Jul 07, 2022 10:48 pm

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Illl be honest i had lower confidence that loftwing was town after their claim but i was extremely tunneled on eira who was unaligned there

Having a scum flip means i can delete next scum tho
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Post Post #1090 (ISO) » Thu Jul 07, 2022 10:49 pm

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Yes i think it is stupid to think townies are an informed party wgo know they are wrong
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Post Post #1091 (ISO) » Thu Jul 07, 2022 10:51 pm

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In post 1090, Confidently Wrong wrote:Yes i think it is stupid to think townies are an informed party wgo know they are wrong
I agree. I don't think that's the attitude I've conveyed today? I think you're slightly dodgy for your loftwing interactions but if anything I've been defending you today.
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Post Post #1092 (ISO) » Thu Jul 07, 2022 10:53 pm

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Oh you're being sarcastic?
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Post Post #1093 (ISO) » Thu Jul 07, 2022 10:53 pm

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Also as a side note i normally abhor night 1 vig shots but this pme is actually helpful to me this time which is a rare first

Vigs still bad tho


I actually had a game i replaced into recently where i was completely wrong on scumreads but after 1 flip and a retuning i was able to get the whole team which i have confidence i can do here.

I am 100% sure gamma slot is town btw and they'll see me town so there's that
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Post Post #1094 (ISO) » Thu Jul 07, 2022 10:53 pm

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In post 1093, Confidently Wrong wrote:Also as a side note i normally abhor night 1 vig shots but this pme is actually helpful to me this time which is a rare first

Vigs still bad tho


I actually had a game i replaced into recently where i was completely wrong on scumreads but after 1 flip and a retuning i was able to get the whole team which i have confidence i can do here.

I am 100% sure gamma slot is town btw and they'll see me town so there's that
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Post Post #1095 (ISO) » Thu Jul 07, 2022 10:54 pm

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[quote="In post 1093
I am 100% sure gamma slot is town btw and they'll see me town so there's that[/quote]
100%, is that a soft-claim?
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Post Post #1096 (ISO) » Thu Jul 07, 2022 10:57 pm

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In post 1050, Fredrick A Campbell wrote:If any more last minute opinions on anything is asked for and I happen to be online, I won't mind giving it, or the information I lack such an opinion.
I think mala and bbt are still town. Kenny actually i think drops to bottom 2 poe off this? I haven't reread game with new info in mind but that's the first thing that comes to mind


Keep in mind i thought i was right and thought id be dead+ its been 5 days since last dayphase.
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Post Post #1097 (ISO) » Thu Jul 07, 2022 11:01 pm

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CW, are you softclaiming with the Gamma slot read?
Also can you confirm the bolded comment below was sarcasm?
In post 1087, Confidently Wrong wrote:
In post 1075, FancyPants wrote:Day 2 town block is as follows:

Myself/Irrelephant/Malcom/Kenny

It's probably not Eira or Lowell either.

Last two scum are in:
BlueBloodedToffee
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In post 1059, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:CW, why were you reading Loftwing as town?
Because sometimes i suck on d1 and was too generous with a townread there!
Now i can reeval rho

Fancy pants immediately saying I'm probably scum is indicative of an inability to think town can be wrong ;)
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Post Post #1098 (ISO) » Thu Jul 07, 2022 11:13 pm

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OK super sus entrance from CW.
Please answer the above CW, I'm going to keep asking if you don't.
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Post Post #1099 (ISO) » Fri Jul 08, 2022 12:23 am

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CW, talk about Loftwing read more please
Meta this. Meta that. Meta Everything. Meta is not a good scum-hunting tool. PEOPLE CAN MANIPULATE THEIR META. Stop it. Stop. It. Now.

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