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[Irrelephant11]

honestly we probably vote out mala or kenny and let cw get shot by vig. bbt *could* be scum here but idk I'm not feeling it. Maybe if I need to re-evaluate later

[Irrelephant11]

tbh I think mala is town but it's based on, like, tea leaves and stargazing so I don't feel like I can rule her out.

[Confidently Wrong]

lowell isn't scum

Ellaborate.

[Irrelephant11]

Now that you mention it, kenny hasn't said anything of substance despite saying many things.

VOTE: kennyk

UNVOTE: Kennyk

I like their recent posting, it feels a lot better than before.

@loftwing, Can you point out specifically what you like about Kenny's recent posts?

I feel like it was a resolution to my misgivings about them, which was mainly "There's a lot of nothing here"

But what you posted wasn't relevant. You posted a bunch of stuff but didn't actually give any reads, so the question is this; why post it at all?

I never claimed it to be reads. Just my impressions about things that were relevant in my eyes. Like Irrelephant believing Shoshin is town without giving a reason why.

It was just things that I think are noteworthy. They were and are not enough to make it a read in my eyes.

And btw.: the quoted post doesn't contain a read either. Why did you post it at all?

This post explained why kenny felt out of place and why it felt like nothing, it was nothing but only if you were looking for reads.

Once I was satisfied, I relieved the pressure.

@Loftwing, I'm having trouble following you.

Is this a fair characterization of your behaviour:
- You voted Kenny because he "didn't say anything of substance despite saying many things." 168
- You unvote once Kenny admit's that he wasn't saying anything of substance and was just making random comments about the game (207), this was enough to put your mind at ease and unvote him.

If I am incorrectly interpreting your posts, please treat me like I'm stupid and explain your thought process clearly.

@Kennyk, I'd still like you to follow up on post 190 please.

My Quarrel was that they were trying to decieve us into believing that they had something to say regarding their reads, when it was apparent they didn't. While I still may have my suspicions of Kenny, I feel like they are at a similar baseline that everyone else is at. They don't appear to have a bias or an agenda that they are attempting to push.

So here are my thoughts about the game so far.

There is Eiralox who voted and changed votes twice very early in the game.

I made a (in my eyes) fun comment about this. I know it is RVS, so those vote changes are very likely a thing of trying to beating around the bush in hope of someone reacting to being voted.

FancyPants tries to push me for this comment. This feels wierd. But maybe it is because they are torn pants (thanks Irrelephant for that pun).

The most fascinating thing about Irrelephant is, that Shoshin is probably town. Not that I think Shoshin is scum, but I don't see how he should have gained the towncred.

ConfidentlyWrongs selfvote in the early RVS is NAI for me. As mentioned by someone else earlier (too lazy to look it up again) this seems to be a humoristic approach (haha).

BlueBloodedToffee pushing CW for the selfvote and then, when the waggon didn't get on track too well, hopping on the CSF waggon seems fishy.

I don't see why CSF deserves the waggon that's now going on.

Everyone else is just a blank card for me right now.

This is a window into what Kenny was thinking, and it shows that they wish to contribute to the gamestate even if they have little to no reads. It highlights what they consider to be important events up to this point, and it would be wise to study it in depth to catch a glimpse of Kenny's pov

why did you think fred was a pr, cw?

[Irrelephant11]

F I did not mean to put those quotes there. Those quotes are for my kenny scumcase

[Irrelephant11]

unvote, vote loftwing

Fine with this. No particular read on loft one way or the other but I’ve done dumber things with less reason.

CW could be scum trying to power a miselim through. I think loftwing is a pretty good flip

We should consider making a flip happen sooner rather than later because this weekend is a holiday weekend for everyone in the US and we have about 2.5 days left in this game day, during which the American players might barely post (e.g. me, I'll be hanging with family)

I agree with this, especially as one of the folks who will be more out than in this weekend. And the way the loftwing wagon just seems to be floating there with no one wanting to hammer makes me feel good about it. The last vote is always the hardest--come on folks, someone be a hero.

@eira, loft/kenny/CW would be a hilariously clumsy scumteam so I doubt it. But loft with one of those two seems possible, with the third person being the duped town player along for the ride.

Like pulling teeth around here. Let’s all call a guy useless and scummy and do nothing.

Dudes loft posted 8 times in the last day and a half, listing all his suspects, what exactly you want from him? Vote him or don’t. BBT is scum, eira is probably town, I have this read in my head and can’t shake it now.

[Irrelephant11]

^ lowell towncase

[Irrelephant11]

I'm sad I voted frederick. Sorry fred. Would love to play with you again sometime

[MalcolmTucker]

Yeah Lowell seems like pretty obvious town here.

[Irrelephant11]

VOTE: Loftwing

Subject to change but time to cast a vote somewhere. Not confident their opportunistic jumping around from wagon to wagon is townie. The vote on Mala felt particularly opportunistic as I said earlier on.

this post alone (if you're reading malcolm's ISO, and put this post in context) is enough for malcolm to be locktown

[Irrelephant11]

cw please explain your frederick PR-read

[Confidently Wrong]

The first post is the only one i find clearing as the others i belive were around where lowell has pressure on him too
I have to check context but id clear lowell till limlo if the first vote was not under duress

[Irrelephant11]

kenny's ISO is the definition of information instead of analysis. Hop on my wagon, it's very comfortable!! We're taking the scenic route. On your left you'll see our tulip fields, they're beautiful this time of year

[Irrelephant11]

The first post is the only one i find clearing as the others i belive were around where lowell has pressure on him too
I have to check context but id clear lowell till limlo if the first vote was not under duress

lowell pushing loftwing when under duress is clearing

[Confidently Wrong]

cw please explain your frederick PR-read

The various weird posts felt like a soft.

[Confidently Wrong]

The first post is the only one i find clearing as the others i belive were around where lowell has pressure on him too
I have to check context but id clear lowell till limlo if the first vote was not under duress

lowell pushing loftwing when under duress is clearing

Except if both are under duress at the same time.

[Irrelephant11]

I'm having a hard time with today's wordle

[Irrelephant11]

The first post is the only one i find clearing as the others i belive were around where lowell has pressure on him too
I have to check context but id clear lowell till limlo if the first vote was not under duress

lowell pushing loftwing when under duress is clearing

Except if both are under duress at the same time.

vote kenny with me?

[Eiralox]

[Confidently Wrong]

Irrelephant i understand you are trying to see if im.paired with a possible scum kenny but the reason im avoiding that slot is due to history of misreading, not because im scum. I want time to analyze before i commit anywhere. Rushing into another lim after a scum death is how games are lost

[Irrelephant11]

sure, I'm doing that. but you're also just itt and I want votes on kenny. Not sure what danger there is for you in being vote #2

[Irrelephant11]

alright........... you've got my attention,

[Confidently Wrong]

sure, I'm doing that. but you're also just itt and I want votes on kenny. Not sure what danger there is for you in being vote #2

Im at work

[Eiralox]

sure, I'm doing that. but you're also just itt and I want votes on kenny. Not sure what danger there is for you in being vote #2

[Irrelephant11]

like try this on for size: "I have no clear read on kenny but obvtown irrelephant wants me to help pressure kenny so for now, VOTE: kennyVOTE: [v/]"

we're not going to accidentally rush a flip on town!kenny. We're on evens, and fancy wants to locktown kenny