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Post Post #2150 (ISO) » Fri Jul 08, 2022 6:46 pm

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Hello everyone

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Post Post #2151 (ISO) » Fri Jul 08, 2022 6:47 pm

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sup brad
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Post Post #2152 (ISO) » Fri Jul 08, 2022 6:47 pm

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Hi SPF.

What do you think the move is today?
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Post Post #2153 (ISO) » Fri Jul 08, 2022 6:48 pm

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In post 2152, AbbyandRani wrote:
Hi SPF.

What do you think the move is today?
probably to kill not_mafia and then go from there but i wont be able to say with confidence until ive done some more reading/ISOing
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Post Post #2154 (ISO) » Fri Jul 08, 2022 6:48 pm

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did ur reads change at all after the arete flip?
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Post Post #2155 (ISO) » Fri Jul 08, 2022 6:48 pm

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In post 2153, staypositivefriend wrote:
In post 2152, AbbyandRani wrote:
Hi SPF.

What do you think the move is today?
probably to kill not_mafia and then go from there but i wont be able to say with confidence until ive done some more reading/ISOing
I was liking that option yesterday.

VOTE: Not_Mafia
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Post Post #2156 (ISO) » Fri Jul 08, 2022 6:50 pm

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In post 2154, staypositivefriend wrote:did ur reads change at all after the arete flip?
Probably Penguin town, still have you and Cat town.

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Post Post #2157 (ISO) » Fri Jul 08, 2022 6:51 pm

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This is all Brad actually Sabi is in Canada for a diplomacy tournament.
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Post Post #2158 (ISO) » Fri Jul 08, 2022 6:51 pm

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In post 2156, AbbyandRani wrote:
In post 2154, staypositivefriend wrote:did ur reads change at all after the arete flip?
Probably Penguin town, still have you and Cat town.

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why penguin town? (i think i agree but i wanna hear ur reasoning)
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Post Post #2159 (ISO) » Fri Jul 08, 2022 6:59 pm

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In post 2158, staypositivefriend wrote:
In post 2156, AbbyandRani wrote:
In post 2154, staypositivefriend wrote:did ur reads change at all after the arete flip?
Probably Penguin town, still have you and Cat town.

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why penguin town? (i think i agree but i wanna hear ur reasoning)
Basically jumping on the Arete wagon early yesterday, and then voting them once the CC happened. Like 0 defense of them which I would assume Arete's partner would do in that situation.
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Post Post #2160 (ISO) » Fri Jul 08, 2022 7:03 pm

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In post 2159, AbbyandRani wrote:
In post 2158, staypositivefriend wrote:
In post 2156, AbbyandRani wrote:
In post 2154, staypositivefriend wrote:did ur reads change at all after the arete flip?
Probably Penguin town, still have you and Cat town.

- Brad
why penguin town? (i think i agree but i wanna hear ur reasoning)
Basically jumping on the Arete wagon early yesterday, and then voting them once the CC happened. Like 0 defense of them which I would assume Arete's partner would do in that situation.
okay - idk if i fully agree that it was towny for penguin to immediately vote for arete once the CC happened, because i think that arete would likely encourage their partner to bus them at that point (since they were pretty much outed and always dying anyway), but i do think that penguin is likely spewed not partners with arete from the way that he consistently voted/pushed on arete throughout the game, particularly on d1, and the way arete pushed on him/framed him as a wolfy with timing that came off as opportunistic yesterday
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Post Post #2161 (ISO) » Fri Jul 08, 2022 7:07 pm

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if Penguin is town this means NM is Mafia and the last wolf is between SPF/AnR
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Post Post #2162 (ISO) » Fri Jul 08, 2022 7:07 pm

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In post 2161, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:if Penguin is town this means NM is Mafia and the last wolf is between SPF/AnR
why's that? why can't nm be the wolf?
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Post Post #2163 (ISO) » Fri Jul 08, 2022 7:07 pm

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In post 2162, staypositivefriend wrote:
In post 2161, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:if Penguin is town this means NM is Mafia and the last wolf is between SPF/AnR
why's that? why can't nm be the wolf?
cuz I really doubt Mafia bus Ydrasse on D2
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Post Post #2164 (ISO) » Fri Jul 08, 2022 7:07 pm

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no clue if penguin could be mafia or not because i havent looked at that side of the spew, but i dont think he's a wolf atm
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Post Post #2165 (ISO) » Fri Jul 08, 2022 7:08 pm

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In post 2164, staypositivefriend wrote:no clue if penguin could be mafia or not because i havent looked at that side of the spew, but i dont think he's a wolf atm
um you 2 r literally talking about Penguin being town?
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Post Post #2166 (ISO) » Fri Jul 08, 2022 7:11 pm

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In post 2160, staypositivefriend wrote:
In post 2159, AbbyandRani wrote:
In post 2158, staypositivefriend wrote:
In post 2156, AbbyandRani wrote:
In post 2154, staypositivefriend wrote:did ur reads change at all after the arete flip?
Probably Penguin town, still have you and Cat town.

- Brad
why penguin town? (i think i agree but i wanna hear ur reasoning)
Basically jumping on the Arete wagon early yesterday, and then voting them once the CC happened. Like 0 defense of them which I would assume Arete's partner would do in that situation.
okay - idk if i fully agree that it was towny for penguin to immediately vote for arete once the CC happened, because i think that arete would likely encourage their partner to bus them at that point (since they were pretty much outed and always dying anyway), but
i do think that penguin is likely spewed not partners with arete
from the way that he consistently voted/pushed on arete throughout the game, particularly on d1, and the way arete pushed on him/framed him as a wolfy with timing that came off as opportunistic yesterday
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Post Post #2167 (ISO) » Fri Jul 08, 2022 7:12 pm

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when i said i agreed that penguin was town i meant that i agreed he's not a wolf bcuz im not trying to mafia hunt at all today

but i see the confusion ig
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Post Post #2168 (ISO) » Fri Jul 08, 2022 7:13 pm

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In post 2158, staypositivefriend wrote:
In post 2156, AbbyandRani wrote:
In post 2154, staypositivefriend wrote:did ur reads change at all after the arete flip?
Probably Penguin town, still have you and Cat town.

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why penguin town? (i think i agree but i wanna hear ur reasoning)
i mean this conversation literally says "penguin town"

that is the context of the comment I am making.

if Penguin is town, that means NM should be Mafia since the last Mafia can't be on the Bus Side of the Ydra Vote, therefore the Last Wolf would be between SabiHydra / SPF if Catboi is town here.
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Post Post #2169 (ISO) » Fri Jul 08, 2022 7:14 pm

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The only scenario where SPF/SabiHydra are T/T is if NM/Peng are some combination of W/M depending on Catboi-town so I guess you always yeet NM if you think Sabi Hydra is town.
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Post Post #2170 (ISO) » Fri Jul 08, 2022 7:17 pm

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do u think that penguin is town
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Post Post #2171 (ISO) » Fri Jul 08, 2022 7:19 pm

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In post 1844, staypositivefriend wrote:
In post 1833, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:
In post 1830, staypositivefriend wrote:????? i said that the wolf agenda is going to be focused on snuffing out the mafia team as quickly as possible, not that the wolf agenda is going to be focused on killing between not_mafia and penguin power. did u read my post correctly?
NM/PenguinPower/STD have the highest mafia equity in the game period. 2/3 of them are likely mafia

you want to kill in that group

that's you hunting for mafia under the veneer of hunting for wolf

the same thing you just accused Arete of doing not even 15 minutes ago
no i want to kill specifically within penguin/STD, which is probably 50% mafia and 50% wolf. shockingly, this is because i want to kill the wolves

This actually makes no sense to be given you knowing Arete is wolf because Arete has almost no Wolf Equity with Penguin as you now state.
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Post Post #2172 (ISO) » Fri Jul 08, 2022 7:20 pm

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In post 2170, staypositivefriend wrote:do u think that penguin is town
yea, him roasting me about misreading him as mafia sounded p townie
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Post Post #2173 (ISO) » Fri Jul 08, 2022 7:21 pm

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In post 2171, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:
In post 1844, staypositivefriend wrote:
In post 1833, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:
In post 1830, staypositivefriend wrote:????? i said that the wolf agenda is going to be focused on snuffing out the mafia team as quickly as possible, not that the wolf agenda is going to be focused on killing between not_mafia and penguin power. did u read my post correctly?
NM/PenguinPower/STD have the highest mafia equity in the game period. 2/3 of them are likely mafia

you want to kill in that group

that's you hunting for mafia under the veneer of hunting for wolf

the same thing you just accused Arete of doing not even 15 minutes ago
no i want to kill specifically within penguin/STD, which is probably 50% mafia and 50% wolf. shockingly, this is because i want to kill the wolves

This actually makes no sense to be given you knowing Arete is wolf because Arete has almost no Wolf Equity with Penguin as you now state.
im like 90% sure the post u quoted was a typo and i meant to type penguin/n_m and not penguin/std, since i was advocating for resolving btwn penguin/nm for most of the day
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Post Post #2174 (ISO) » Fri Jul 08, 2022 7:22 pm

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In post 2172, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:
In post 2170, staypositivefriend wrote:do u think that penguin is town
yea, him roasting me about misreading him as mafia sounded p townie
meh i dont know if i care about that but i agree it felt mildly towny

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