LOST (Game Over)

[JohnnyFarrar]

Hoot

[Klick]

I didn't get much from maths' posting, which is strange because last game with them I was adamant about them being town to a very unbella-like point of intransigence.

This is probably because Corwin/MathBlade is just a scum slot and should die today

VOTE: MathBlade

I don't really think Corwin's body of work looks like scumhunting, it looks more like projecting reads into the thread to look like he's scumhunting

There's a hood you need to actually talk in. You're aware of Math's presence, yet you give no comment on HIS posting. You completely looked over my notes covering my initial attempts at readying. You can RVS in there. Bring more than muckracing or eliminating you will be a hill I would die on....and I love neighborhoods.

~Titus

You posted a load of info in unfiltered note format at once and it overloaded me so I skipped that post
I'm going to engage with this game as a hobby, not as a job. I'm going to do things that I believe are useful and avoid doing things that I don't think are very useful.

I'm amused that you've up to this point engaged with our neighbourhood at about the same level as me, and then post a wall of notes and give less than 24 hours before deciding to get bothered about not having a response to it.

[Klick]

Was this also claimed? I'm losing track of neighborhoods

Not by me. I sat on it. Klick has been my sekkrit scumread.

~Titus

Unironically are you pocketing me?

For what it's worth, this Klick scumread was in her notes post in the neighbourhood!

[Cat Scratch Fever]

I really don’t like this shift of Votes.

What's your Roden read?

[Cat Scratch Fever]

I don't really think Corwin's body of work looks like scumhunting, it looks more like projecting reads into the thread to look like he's scumhunting

Hi Klick! Can you point to some post(s) that make you feel this way? I have a harder time understanding other people's reads when they're in the abstract

[Cephrir]

I mean I'll eat my words over the Taly slot but Roden + Dwlee still lack defenders.

does that make them scum or does it make them easy pushes

also professordrapion is so town on 153 + 154 it hurts

[Cephrir]

alright i'll spend the next 30 minutes updating the spreadsheet - I'm kind of lazy ngl.

here's where it's at right now:



give me your updates.

i posted a second version a bit ago and i don't think it got changed

[Bellaphant]

alright i'll spend the next 30 minutes updating the spreadsheet - I'm kind of lazy ngl.

here's where it's at right now:



give me your updates.

i posted a second version a bit ago and i don't think it got changed

Me too

[Cephrir]

i want to kill one of math/DP/Johnny

im not sure why that feels impossible

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

what changes do I need to add to yours

[Bellaphant]

Rad
Cat
Frog
Luke
Klick
Dancing puppets


Scum

Galron
Dunn
Pp
Ceph
Bell


Null
Poorly
Enchant
Tbone
Mala
Oof the hook
Cytosine and Guanine
Malcolm
Math
Dweelee
Johnny
Rce
Bbt
Roden
Taly

Do I need to change the for ay?

[MalcolmTucker]

1 Mathblade (Lukewarm)

6 Mathblade (PookyTheMagicalBear, Rad, Dunnstral, Klick, Cephrir, Bell)

This feels like a wild situation.

There were

Zero people

in this game that felt strongly enough about Corwin/Math being scum that they were voting there.

I vote

, and a wagon starts forming.

I change my mind, and start town reading the slot.

I encourage people to look elsewhere.

Suddenly, there are multiple people talking about how obviously scummy the slot is, and that is needs to die.

Like, where was all of this confidence before I sparked the wagon?

I have no idea what it means, but it feels weird.

Currently catching up. But this is a good spot. If Math is town, I wonder if scum weren't too interested in the slot, but once you started to put a bit of sustained pressure on it they reckoned it might be one they could push for an elimination?

I'm not generally keen on arguments like "people are just trying to lim me to end the day" from Math, but there's also some fair points being made that a lot of the posters voting him aren't particularly articulating an overly coherent scumcase against him (again catching up, dunno if anyone has made a better case, will soon see).

[Cephrir]

what changes do I need to add to yours

bbt, bird, klick, drapion town
malc null
enchant, dwlee, taly, math, johnny scum

[Enchant]

You not even trying do you.

[MalcolmTucker]

Is anyone townreading Roden? I'd like to hear why

I find it a bit odd that there's not really been a lot of major attempts to defend Roden, but it's also been a bit of a struggle getting the wagon to pick up. If Roden is scum makes me wonder if teammates have stayed distance from the slot while there's not necessarily been proper sustained pressure there as such. I've yet to see anyone particularly outline why their play is town though.

[Cat Scratch Fever]

I feel like you've disengaged lately, enchant

[Enchant]

I am not really in big games.

Let's kill off atleast half players so it's more manageble.

Presuming i will survive to this moment.

[Cat Scratch Fever]

There's currently four votes on Roden, Malcolm! You have the potential to make it into a real wagon

[MalcolmTucker]

I think Corwin got a bad rap because he started the game away from it and had to come in on the back foot with people scum reading him when he literally wasn't in the game yet. He didn't let himself get sucked into it too much. He asked questions about people's reads, he gave his own observations pretty freely without having to be pestered. When I pressed him about his read on BBT, I felt he gave the type of honest answer that scum don't often give (basically a nice nuanced idk). And yeah, I tend to town read people who have similar reads to mine. I never played with Corwin before, so it's not like he would know that and do something about it. Nor am I a big enough presence to warrant such treatment. I also thought he was pretty open to continually revaluate his reads. So like, yeah I initially town read him for a joke, but he came into it in a way that satisfied me. He also didn't make any posts I found scummy, so I don't even know of any examples in this game that would counter the positives of what I have seen.

As for Mathblade, most of his posts are NAI. It's clear he is crumbling to the pressure, but I don't think it's because he's scum, i think it's because he's frustrated. We can't scumread everyone for getting upset when they are scum read.

This post about Corwin is sort of convincing.

I disagree that Mathblade's posts are NAI though, I really don't like the points they keep bringing up about popularity in this game, I don't agree with that at all and they are making sweeping generalizations.

I also did not like that when Pooky linked games where they were indeed eliminated on day 1 Math said "only 4 times n 20 years". It was a fast rebuttal without really looking into things.

Math's arguments have been frustrating to read when trying to quickly catch up considering things very quickly end up going round in circles, but it's strengthening my TR largely because I don't think their confrontational/annoyed tone is necessarily how I'd expect scum to approach the game if they are trying to win over people who SR them. If he's town, I get the frustration of repping into a large game and facing lots of scum accusations based on the previous player who left fairly early on.

[MalcolmTucker]

There's currently four votes on Roden, Malcolm! You have the potential to make it into a real wagon

If it's more likely then Johnny, then sure, here we go.

VOTE: Roden

[MalcolmTucker]

Ngl

I’m starting to warm up to math being town

because they're salty? i don't agree at all

I think Math is a good execution not just because I think he’s wolf but because I feel he gives us the most Info as he has been the most talked about so far this game with the inclusion of his previous slot owner as well and because of the massive attention and reactions from everyone we can got allot from all players involved via Math Flip.

Things can tell us allot with his flip.

Don't particularly like this post. Could be Drapion is forgetting players don't flip when they are eliminated (I have that correct yes?), but even then I don't likely solely advocating eliminating players for "info"; it's a 26-player game with more than 150 pages, we'd surely get lots of info from pretty much anyone eliminated who's been active once we know their role further down the line, there'd only really be a lack of info from inactive players, and even then the wagons would likely still show us plenty.

[Cat Scratch Fever]

We flip alignment but not role

[MalcolmTucker]

We flip alignment but not role

Okay, got you, that part had confused me. Makes sense, no knowledge of alignment felt like it would have been a big advantage for scum.

[Enchant]

We can also punch malcolm.

[MalcolmTucker]

We can also punch malcolm.

That's mean.