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[Roden]

Mine

[Off The Hook]

Overall I think cephrir seems town
He’s doing a bit more interesting stuff than I think he would as scum

~GE

[Lukewarm]

I don't really think Corwin's body of work looks like scumhunting, it looks more like projecting reads into the thread to look like he's scumhunting

Hi Klick! Can you point to some post(s) that make you feel this way? I have a harder time understanding other people's reads when they're in the abstract

So I suspect I'll get ire from a number of people for this, but I'll preface this post by saying that another read-through of Corwin's ISO in a different state of mind has me townreading him.

What I originally saw was more about what I couldn't see in Corwin's posts rather than what I could see, and as such it'd be difficult to demonstrate what I was seeing with quotes. I think Corwin has a type of posting style that I'm naturally likely to read as scummy, because his posts feel crafted to me. But I can see looking at his ISO now how the posts he decides to post come from town who feels like he's saying whatever is on his mind at the time.

This is a shit answer to the actual question you've asked here! But it's what I'm thinking.

He suspected correctly

I could still kill klick

[Off The Hook]

Just going to throw this out there, hydras are > than rand more likely to either targeted or NK’d early. So why do you think OtH is likely to be scum? What about their posting do you sr? @Cephir

hydras are more likely to be targeted probably yes. so?

Wdym by this Cephrir?

~GE

? seems pretty straightforward to me but

they suggested that hydras should not be suspected because they are likely nightkills

i agreed that they are likely nightkills and also said that i don't think that matters vis a vis whether we should suspect them. if i may editorialize, it's another example in a pattern of DP indirectly arguing they should be above suspicion

Okay
I was missing context so I read targeted as “suspected” vs night action target

~GE

[Off The Hook]

i think jf/math r scum

no opinion on dwlee

rad is maybe a townlean atp i dunno.

bella probly town

That wasn’t the question
I wanted anyone you thought

I

should look at, not your opinions on the others in that list

~GE

@pooky

still would like a proper response

~GE

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

did i say mathblade alrdy

[T-Bone]

In the grand scheme it's not a big deal I don't know why we needed 40 pages to get to it.

I don't know either and it's kinda continuing the problem of why I claimed in the first place

I feel like I got run up for not being active even though we're going 20+ pages a day and it's getting more and more difficult to keep up and actually retain everything

And not even 12 hours go by after my claim yet we get 20 more pages and people arguing about Mason claims and screaming for my head

I mean you were a big part of the problem. You got to the point where you felt you had to claim...and then only claimed half way. If you had just claimed we would have all moved on.

[Roden]

In the grand scheme it's not a big deal I don't know why we needed 40 pages to get to it.

I don't know either and it's kinda continuing the problem of why I claimed in the first place

I feel like I got run up for not being active even though we're going 20+ pages a day and it's getting more and more difficult to keep up and actually retain everything

And not even 12 hours go by after my claim yet we get 20 more pages and people arguing about Mason claims and screaming for my head

I mean you were a big part of the problem. You got to the point where you felt you had to claim...and then only claimed half way. If you had just claimed we would have all moved on.

I don't think it's my responsibility to tranq 24 other players who can't control themselves

You can also,

not

run up low activity slots who already said they had trouble keeping up, and then blame them when the post count accelerates and makes it even harder for them to keep up

[Roden]

Like sorry if my attitude here is shit but it's kinda not fun to waste my time reading 100+ pages, barely get to play, and get run up Day 1 and immediately NK'd just because town got bored

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

dont read 100 + pages then

just read however much u want and pick an elim lets goooooo

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

also p sure ur not auto nightkilled cuz theres probly at least one protective in a large theme

[Roden]

Dwlee claimed so I guess it's a 50/50 if a protective does exist

I doubt we have a protective but no scum Strongman in a 5v21 though so it likely doesn't matter

[Roden]

dont read 100 + pages then

just read however much u want and pick an elim lets goooooo

Why do you want Math gone?

[Dancing Puppets]

Pooky, do you think I am easily pocketed?

~Titus

[Cytosine and Guanine]

Yeah I'm not going to bother trying to keep up at this point, 70 pages is too much.

I can vaguely tell there's a wagon on me. I'm claiming Mason.

UNVOTE: Roden
(move Town)
-Guanine

[Roden]

I still think Ceph is scum but I like Luke's case on Dunn

I town read Dunn early on but I do think it's wild that he would think I'm lying about being a Mason solely because of my reads list

I also think he should have a decent enough grasp of my playstyle to know the difference between my fake claims and real claims since he's done so consistently before

[Roden]

Oi, somebody give me a rationale why we're hunting for or trying to kill a mason claim D1 that isn't completely insane?

Sure. I think that Roden is fake claiming. I also believe that due to the unique mechanics of this set up, there is no benefit to the remaining potential mason keeping quiet. They are already "burned" and would have to claim immediately following Roden's death, before anyone else dies.

VOTE: Dunn

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Pooky, do you think I am easily pocketed?

~Titus

I don't know you well enough to know if you are easy to pocket.

[Off The Hook]

yeah dunn does look horrible, but he wasnt the only one calling for the mason2 to claim

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I think mafia usually do not call for a mason to claim because mafia possess a sense of self preservation but if everyone wants to murder Dunnstral, I won't veto it because I do not have a great track record of reading Dunnstral correctly.

[Off The Hook]

is there anyone other than mathblade that u want dead at this point?

[Dunnstral]

So Roden. Did you have a super special crumb that Dwlee could have referenced after you died, like multiple players have suggested; or was there nothing like that?

Because if there was nothing like that then your partner claiming here was absolutely necessary. I would not have personally believed Dwlee if they had claimed after you had died.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

is there anyone other than mathblade that u want dead at this point?

I dislike compromising because compromises tend to land on townies that I'm misreading as wolves.

If people have a really strong case against someone I will read it.

[Bell]

The issue isn’t that he pushed to claim in retrospect, it was that they were scum reading them post claim without thinking through the downsides of claiming Mason D1 as scum.

I too am in the I dunno if dunnstral scum is this silly about a d1 claim.

[Roden]

What stops mafia from doing something scummy and then saying "I wouldn't do that as mafia though"

I don't think it's outside of anyone's scum range to play aggressively and appear to have no self-preservation

I don't think Dunn's reason for thinking my claim was fake comes from a town mindset either