Mini Normal 2275: Roguelikes - Day 3: Endgame!

[Confidently Wrong]

all 4 of myself, loftwing, shoshin, and lowell were on that fredrick wagon.

why do scum need to triple up there? if lowell is town... then why do i need to switch? the wagons were literally between lowell and fredrick... very stupid indeed, i could just farm the cred for "having the right read".

but if the counterwagon is scum... that makes it make sense why all of lowell loftwing and shoshin pile up.

[Eiralox]

loftwing stayed on lowell end day one. i've said this before. meh. bye.

[Eiralox]

Flavor 1.5

Death

When you reach zero hit points, you die. Death is also possible when you have nonzero hit points, by several methods of instadeath or delayed instadeath. You lose all the progress you made in that game, and you may have your possessions identified, see your attributes at the time of death (as well as a single post-mortem attribute), see a list of vanquished creatures, see a list of monsters genocided, and see which official conducts you have adhered to.

Dying may also create a bones file.

A particularly spectacular character death, especially of a character that is was well on the way to ascension, is often called a splat. Watching splats (live or on Splat TV) is a part of the fun of social NetHack.

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Flip 1.5

Fredrick A Campbell

(7): BlueBloodedToffee, Eiralox, Lowell, Confidently Wrong, Irrelephant11, FancyPants, Shoshin

[HAMMER!]

Lowell

(2): Cat Scratch Fever, Loftwing

Loftwing

(1): Fredrick A Campbell

Eiralox

(1): kennyk

BlueBloodedToffee

(1): Malakittens

Not Voting

(1): MalcolmTucker

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to eliminate.

Fredrick A Campbell

has been eliminated!

Fredrick A Campbell's role was

Town 1-Shot Bulletproof

!

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Night 1 ends in (expired on 2022-07-06 11:17:00).

one of the reasons im scumreading, if uve read my case.

[Confidently Wrong]

ok i misremembered but CSF was on lowell wagon and died n1

[Irrelephant11]

Lol it’s kind of a big deal! That loftwing considered Lowell a good enough counterwagon to vote there as self-preservation

[Irrelephant11]

Lol that you didn’t know that this whole time

[Irrelephant11]

Wait crap is it bbt

[Irrelephant11]

BBT why would you townread someone for being a commuter

[Irrelephant11]

To explain my sudden thought process

CW having a tunnel for so long on Lowell based on incorrect reasoning feels incredibly towny
Was Shoshin really the only scum on the feed wagon? When she would have happily sheeped me onto Lowell? (If Kenny is scum the answer is yes apparently)

If CW is town then why did the loftwing wagon falter? Unless it was bbt

[Irrelephant11]

It would be an elite scum move to tantrum about not getting a Lowell flip based on reasoning that… isn’t true, and then go “oops my reasoning was partially based on a faulty memory”

And I’m suddenly feeling like Shoshin being willing to sheep me meant she knew a scum partner was already on each of the two competing town wagons? But I don’t think it was cw?


I know bbt already isn’t endgaming but as long as we’re bored and waiting for replacements can we discuss this for a minute? Especially since cw probably doesn’t survive the night

[Irrelephant11]

Cw - thoughts? Can bbt be scum here?

Idk I still lean Kenny I think??

[Irrelephant11]

As I’m writing this I feel like I’m losing towncred by reopening the limpool slightly but let’s just call this a eureka moment and entertain my line of thinking for a sec. Have we been letting BBT hide behind the fact that his play is kinda audacious?

[Irrelephant11]

CSF was pretty anti-BBT

[Irrelephant11]

Town to scum:

Eira
Fancy
Kenny
Malcolm
Cat
CW
Irrel
BBT
Fred
Mala
Lowell
Loftwing

[Irrelephant11]

CSF was pretty anti-BBT

Eh maybe this isn’t as clear cut. CSF was mildly anti BBT

[Irrelephant11]

But CSF did like cw’s town lock that excluded BBT

[Irrelephant11]

What're your reads, Loft?

Town

Fredrick A Campbell
Confidently Wrong
---
Cat Scratch Fever
BlueBloodedToffee
Lowell
Irrelephant11
MalcolmTucker
Shoshin
Malakittens
---
kennyk
FancyPants
Eiralox

Scum

Switching votes to self-pres isn't scummy. Not even in the slightest

Now, here's an interesting comment. I would like to hear you justify this remark, BBT.

Is anyone interested in a Fred or Malcolm wagon?

Fred is preference.

I can only go off early-ish posts and it's not a read I can say I'm wholly confident in either. Therefore, I'm not entirely comfortable explaining it - not yet anyway.

Ther

If you townread me, then surely you could give a more in-depth explanation than this.

Loft, can you give me a run down of where you're at?

Regarding the self-pres, if I'm at L-1 and my top town read is the next largest wagon, regardless of my alignment I'm voting the counter wagon to save myself. If I'm town, I can never be as sure on someone else's alignment as I am of my own and if I'm scum, well, I just want to live.

I am in a mega-coroporation stocking various icey things into cold containers.

Less literally, I am currently a little lost as to what to do here. I don't particularly have a preffered direction or goal other than to offer as much as I can in the limited time I have here.

If you're town, then the most you can do is try to provide as much content before your death, as everything you say will come from a town perspective, guarenteed. Self preservation denies this avenue of information to your fellow bretheren, which in turn makes everyone worse off.


In any case, I must return to the land of ice and frost until my lunch rest.

Is anyone interested in a Fred or Malcolm wagon?

Fred is preference.

I would still do this if we can get any traction at all

Why either of them? Neither of their deaths would allow the game to progress quite as much as mine would.

Pretty bland interactions but kind of a lot of them for loft

[Irrelephant11]

D1 EOD wagons are the strongest treason my mind is suddenly v unsure

[Confidently Wrong]

BBT voting kenny slot, refusing to ellaborate, and dipping makes me indifferent to their fate right now.

[Confidently Wrong]

i kinda was soft on bbt because we just finished a game together where i misread them for similar kind of play + we kinda mindmelded in a way on some things.

[Confidently Wrong]

whoever between bbt/lowell is town and refusing to explain progression is hurting town a lot by missing an opportunity to clear themselves btw its like so easy to just spew reasoning if you are town that will be seen as towny.

[Confidently Wrong]

As I’m writing this I feel like I’m losing towncred by reopening the limpool slightly but let’s just call this a eureka moment and entertain my line of thinking for a sec. Have we been letting BBT hide behind the fact that his play is kinda audacious?

ur one of the most spewed townies in the game, relax.

[Confidently Wrong]

Lol it’s kind of a big deal! That loftwing considered Lowell a good enough counterwagon to vote there as self-preservation

i think i did see it but misremembered bc i explained it internally as the fact that loftwing wasnt around to switch vote, and at the time of the lowell vote, there was no other recourse, and seeing as a backup rolecop flipped - it is ok to bus the rolecop.

[Confidently Wrong]

i should probably reread it but i also have a headache and am playing Farm Together so i will do it tomorrow. or ill make the replacements do the work for me

[Irrelephant11]

I also thought about this more and BBT paying close attention to potential role crumbs would make sense if he’s rolecop

And I had another realization but I forget what it is