LOST (Game Over)

[Dancing Puppets]

That I'm still OK with an Enchant elim?

And that Mislim's strongest SR being Enchant is weak sauce.

So vote him then.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Right now I'm pushing Mislim.

I've had varying degrees of scum reads on DP, Best Bird and yourself. Bella has recently come into the picture, too.

[T-Bone]

I dislike T-Bone's vote on Off the Hook. Aside from 8455, which was probably a joke, I feel like you're avoiding giving a read on BBT and commenting on that wagon.

I mean I don't particularly care about this wagon, what exactly did you want me to comment on?

It's a Thing That's Happening, so any thoughts about whether you like the wagon or the people on it instead of staying on the sidelines

I mean at the time 3 people were on it and one of my higher scumread (OTH) was on it. And now you've joined it, another slot I kinda look at as scum, so I don't think it's a good wagon. My two strongest town reads are voting elsewhere. The strongest town read of mine who is voting them is Math. I'm just not interested in eliminating a slot I consider null to slightly town when I think there are other slots more likely to flip scum. I also don't feel I need to argue against a (at the time) three person wagon.

[Off The Hook]

oh i dont remember seeing u talk about dancing puppets! can u explain that one for me? i honestly dont see them beimg scum, i townread them!! do u want me to tell u why?

[Dancing Puppets]

Right now I'm pushing Mislim.

I've had varying degrees of scum reads on DP, Best Bird and yourself. Bella has recently come into the picture, too.

These are all slots having you as either srs or sls.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

I don't know if that's sarcasm or not?

I'm not really interested in people explaining town reads, no.

Pedit - @OTH

[Cat Scratch Fever]

8941 seems like some silly gotcha reasoning. Mislim Bait didn't voted Taly after people told him there was a gladiate yesterday, and I feel like you could have checked this by ISO'ing the person you're scumreading

8845 is more of the same

VOTE: BBT

Literally has nothing to do with what I said.

Then explain what I misunderstood?

You quoted some post where Mislim bait cautioned against VCAs without context and tried to demonstrate a contradiction bc Mislim also used VCA to scumread taly

Except he clearly wasn't going off VCA alone bc he didn't even vote taly after getting more context about the gladiate situation

I'm not even sure such a contradiction would be scummy, hence gotcha reasoning, but in any case, i don't even see a contradiction

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Right now I'm pushing Mislim.

I've had varying degrees of scum reads on DP, Best Bird and yourself. Bella has recently come into the picture, too.

These are all slots having you as either srs or sls.

Mislim didn't have me as scum.

Neither did Bella. I do have a tendency to scum read people who scum read me though so I'm not gonna argue too much about that.

[Dancing Puppets]

I dislike T-Bone's vote on Off the Hook. Aside from 8455, which was probably a joke, I feel like you're avoiding giving a read on BBT and commenting on that wagon.

I mean I don't particularly care about this wagon, what exactly did you want me to comment on?

It's a Thing That's Happening, so any thoughts about whether you like the wagon or the people on it instead of staying on the sidelines

I mean at the time 3 people were on it and one of my higher scumread (OTH) was on it. And now you've joined it, another slot I kinda look at as scum, so I don't think it's a good wagon. My two strongest town reads are voting elsewhere. The strongest town read of mine who is voting them is Math. I'm just not interested in eliminating a slot I consider null to slightly town when I think there are other slots more likely to flip scum. I also don't feel I need to argue against a (at the time) three person wagon.

I honestly don’t know what to make of you, other than our reads are so diametrically different.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

@CSF - He said he likes VCA but not to go overboard.

I then quoted an early post showing him going overboard based off of VCA.

You see the contradiction or no?

[Dancing Puppets]

I don't know if that's sarcasm or not?

I'm not really interested in people explaining town reads, no.

Pedit - @OTH

Town should be interested in hearing BOTH town and scum reads.

[Cat Scratch Fever]

@CSF - He said he likes VCA but not to go overboard.

I then quoted an early post showing him going overboard based off of VCA.

You see the contradiction or no?

I can see why you may think that

Why is this scummy?

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Not really.

If someone was being wagoned and under serious pressure, I got time to listen to town reads. I don't care much for random town reads stated for little to no reason.

Scum being nuanced about town reads is an excellent way to get town read I find. I really don't see the benefit for town in explaining town reads outside of the parameters I just stated.

[Cat Scratch Fever]

@Tbone, all right. i thought there were more people on that wagon but maybe that's because loud people were pushing it

[BlueBloodedToffee]

I can see why you may think that

Why is this scummy?

Because it was an easy 'in' to the game for scum.

Why are you focusing on this part of my read on Mislim and not everything else?

[Cat Scratch Fever]

What is the rest of your case? That klick's naked voting was scummy?

I already said i found your initial reasoning behind the Mislim vote weak

[T-Bone]

I honestly don’t know what to make of you, other than our reads are so diametrically different.

We agree on Enchant if you really want to start there.

But yeah we see the game in completely different ways, I think that much is obvious. Whether you are also town or not and vise versa we won't know until the game is over, so like, idk what you want to do about it in the meantime? I feel like I've had good reads so far and so until I start having incorrect reads I'm gonna keep them where they are sans new information.

For what it's worth I know you've said something to the effect of "I could be in someone's pocket" a few times, and I think if that's true it's either OTH or CSF that has pocketed you. I don't know if that helps, I know you have your reasons for why you said you have your reads.

[T-Bone]

@Tbone, all right. i thought there were more people on that wagon but maybe that's because loud people were pushing it

I understand where you're coming from it was the dominant topic of conversation even though Math had all the votes.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

What is the rest of your case? That klick's naked voting was scummy?

I already said i found your initial reasoning behind the Mislim vote weak

You can read or not.

I'm not overly fussed.

[Cat Scratch Fever]

Naked vote again.

Klick was pretty bad at explaining any of his scum reads or his votes but was more than happy to elaborate on town reads. Again, easy option for scum.

The ceph 180 is probably the most interesting but idk if it's worth a vote by itself

The other votes were on scummy people imo. Corwin (math slot), Roden, and mala were barely present in the game.

[T-Bone]

Oh also CSF, and I guess this goes to everyone else too]...just ask me if you think there's something I should comment on that I haven't. I just tend to ignore things that don't involve me either directly or indirectly.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Barely present = scummy?

[Dancing Puppets]

Not really.

If someone was being wagoned and under serious pressure, I got time to listen to town reads.

I don't care much for random town reads stated for little to no reason.

Scum being nuanced about town reads is an excellent way to get town read I find. I really don't see the benefit for town in explaining town reads outside of the parameters I just stated.

oh i dont remember seeing u talk about dancing puppets! can u explain that one for me? i honestly dont see them beimg scum, i townread them!!

do u want me to tell u why?

You don’t even know what Marci was going to say before you outright dismissed it.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

So?

[Bellaphant]

Corwin wasn't that scumny. I seem to remember the Roden votes coming in reaction to a particular thing. Mala and Johnny being present enough for page tops but not for content was the tipping point for me there.


I think klick went town scum town on ceph?

@oth, tell me why. Also, I misread the bit in Luke's case about puppets, that wasn't in the conclusion I drew.