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Post Post #1075 (ISO) » Wed Jul 20, 2022 2:37 pm

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In post 1064, Greeting wrote:I still strongly prefer eliminating
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Maybe I'm wrong though.
But also, yes, unsure is scum too. I’m feeling lucky.
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Post Post #1076 (ISO) » Wed Jul 20, 2022 2:43 pm

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Idk it's more telling that Fred is town.
Lolvote townie to e-1 is fast obvs, but who wants to cast finally vote.and get blamed?
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Post Post #1077 (ISO) » Wed Jul 20, 2022 3:08 pm

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In post 1075, Lowell wrote:
In post 1064, Greeting wrote:I still strongly prefer eliminating
Unsure
today. Even though
Fredrick A Campbell
is almost certainly our choice for today, I really don't want to announce intent to hammer nor hammer him. I'm not going against my gut here.

Maybe I'm wrong though.
But also, yes, unsure is scum too. I’m feeling lucky.
He claimed sickness so can put this on ice for a while. Forgot if he claimed or not.
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Post Post #1078 (ISO) » Wed Jul 20, 2022 3:29 pm

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In post 1076, Enchant wrote:Idk it's more telling that Fred is town.
Lolvote townie to e-1 is fast obvs, but who wants to cast finally vote.and get blamed?
Are you claiming scum here? You voted Fred, then panic-unvoted with a “hmmm”, now saying he’s town and mocking non-hammerers?

Okay it’s unsure and enchant then I guess.
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Post Post #1079 (ISO) » Wed Jul 20, 2022 3:34 pm

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In post 1076, Enchant wrote:Idk it's more telling that Fred is town.
Lolvote townie to e-1 is fast obvs, but who wants to cast finally vote.and get blamed?
Fred, like Meg, hovered at -2 for quite a while before going -1.

Why is it telling of anything?
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Post Post #1080 (ISO) » Wed Jul 20, 2022 3:41 pm

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For the record:

Fred was put -2 by Owen's vote approximately 33 hours ago. Fred was -2 for most of approximately 25 hours before being pushed to -1.

Meg was -2 for most of approximately 32 hours at one point before I put Meg -1 for good.

Why does this pattern specifically indicate Fred is town?
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Post Post #1081 (ISO) » Wed Jul 20, 2022 4:08 pm

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I have a
very
unsettling feeling and I'm going to turn everything I've said today on it's head for a moment.

My mafia senses are telling me Enchant is scum. Enchant immediately voted MT (a super easy vote to make, and scum did the same thing in 2272), but as MT was losing momentum, naked voted Fred when the votes were split 4/3/3. The exchange with Fire was also bad. What that kind of doesn't look like though? A bus vote. Also, where was Enchant yesterday? The bad Bugspray train.

It's pinging me like crazy is he just made a terrible excuse to get off of the vote, that also completely goes against what happened yesterday (where the player this same pattern happened on actually was scum). The reason he unvoted does not feel like a town reason. It feels manufactured. This doesn't feel like a bus vote on Fred and an odd late unvote because they're scum together - This feels like Enchant helping push the wagon forward, then finding an excuse to get off of it so he won't be on it when it flips
green


And that would make Fred
town
, that's just played like total ass.


UNVOTE: Fred

I need to think.
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Post Post #1082 (ISO) » Wed Jul 20, 2022 4:13 pm

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I know I would have unvoted in Enchant's situation in a heartbeat.

Anyway, sore throat began about 13 hours ago. Fever began 2 hours ago, I'll go back to sleep
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Post Post #1083 (ISO) » Wed Jul 20, 2022 4:19 pm

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mala not returning since her first post isn't good for her chances of being town
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Post Post #1084 (ISO) » Wed Jul 20, 2022 4:21 pm

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In post 1082, Fredrick A Campbell wrote:I know I would have unvoted in Enchant's situation in a heartbeat.

Anyway, sore throat began about 13 hours ago. Fever began 2 hours ago, I'll go back to sleep
Let's go down this rabbit hole a bit more and say that my last post actually was right.

You were -1 for 8 hours. Enchant voted you at a critical time in the game (A 4-3-3 vote split) for absolutely no reason (Enchant has voted you twice this game and given reasons for neither).

But the interesting thing is... Compare Gera's unvote on Meg at -1 to Enchant's unvote on you at -1. Gera unvoted to give Meg more time to speak. A simple, plain reason. Enchant invented a reason that flat out contradicts Meg's train yesterday. The reason is forced, and only exists as an excuse to unvote you, when no reason was ever given to vote you in the first place.

This is often the difference between town unvoting and scum unvoting.
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Post Post #1085 (ISO) » Wed Jul 20, 2022 4:21 pm

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In post 1082, Fredrick A Campbell wrote:I know I would have unvoted in Enchant's situation in a heartbeat.

Anyway, sore throat began about 13 hours ago. Fever began 2 hours ago, I'll go back to sleep
Let's go down this rabbit hole a bit more and say that my last post actually was right.

You were -1 for 8 hours. Enchant voted you at a critical time in the game (A 4-3-3 vote split) for absolutely no reason (Enchant has voted you twice this game and given reasons for neither).

But the interesting thing is... Compare Gera's unvote on Meg at -1 to Enchant's unvote on you at -1. Gera unvoted to give Meg more time to speak. A simple, plain reason. Enchant invented a reason that flat out contradicts Meg's train yesterday. The reason is forced, and only exists as an excuse to unvote you, when no reason was ever given to vote you in the first place.

This is often the difference between town unvoting and scum unvoting.
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Post Post #1086 (ISO) » Wed Jul 20, 2022 4:22 pm

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In post 1083, Firebringer wrote:mala not returning since her first post isn't good for her chances of being town
Especially given the virtual nothingness of the player before her. No way is this day allowed to end without her doing
something
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Post Post #1087 (ISO) » Wed Jul 20, 2022 4:26 pm

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Oh also if this rabbit hole I'm going down is right, Prince rockets immediately to the very top of my scumlist.
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Post Post #1088 (ISO) » Wed Jul 20, 2022 4:32 pm

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And also I forgot to even mention this separate part that was on my mind. While I generally don't believe in them from "stronger" players, I'm also wondering if Enchant perspective slipped when giving his bad reasoning for unvoting. We had a "lolhammer" on Meg and it hit scum. Enchant immediately voted the player who did it.

Why is Enchant acting like whoever hammers Fred would be
In post 1076, Enchant wrote:Idk it's more telling that Fred is town.
Lolvote townie to e-1 is fast obvs, but who wants to cast finally vote.and get
blamed
?
Blamed? What if Fred is scum? This post seems to be flat out insinuating Fred is town.
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Post Post #1089 (ISO) » Wed Jul 20, 2022 4:33 pm

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Got your point, Crescent. Not in the right state of mind to reach a conclusion, however.
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Post Post #1090 (ISO) » Wed Jul 20, 2022 4:38 pm

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That post from Enchant also says "Lolvote townie to e-1 is fast obvs"

Only problem is I'm a townie? If that is what you think, Enchant, what were you doing with that vote on me?

VOTE: Enchant
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Post Post #1091 (ISO) » Wed Jul 20, 2022 4:41 pm

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What happened to not being in the right state of mind to reach a conclusion?
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Post Post #1092 (ISO) » Wed Jul 20, 2022 4:47 pm

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Well, I maybe am making a bad decision. Will review, just, not now.
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Post Post #1093 (ISO) » Wed Jul 20, 2022 4:49 pm

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Also, I would like to get back to sleep, but someone gave me chopped apples. Eating those before oxidation
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Post Post #1094 (ISO) » Wed Jul 20, 2022 4:52 pm

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Malakittens, Firebringer, Enchant are three players I remember as null.
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Post Post #1095 (ISO) » Wed Jul 20, 2022 6:03 pm

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game relevant post: i will literally vote anyone who isn't me
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Post Post #1096 (ISO) » Wed Jul 20, 2022 6:04 pm

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Sorry folks. I am going crazy with this new class. I’ll try my super barest to be here in
The next few days!
No matter how high the stakes, sooner or later you're just gonna have to go with your gut.
And maybe, just maybe, that'll take you right where you were supposed to be.


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Post Post #1097 (ISO) » Wed Jul 20, 2022 9:14 pm

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i would push the Fred wagon over the edge, but ther eis no way we should be ended today right now. we will end up with the situation where a bunch of players cruise through to day 4 or whenever with no content whatsoever.
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Post Post #1098 (ISO) » Wed Jul 20, 2022 9:23 pm

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In post 1097, geraintm wrote:i would push the Fred wagon over the edge, but ther eis no way we should be ended today right now. we will end up with the situation where a bunch of players cruise through to day 4 or whenever with no content whatsoever.
you will want to ask questions/poke players if you don't want them to not get away with nothing and cruising
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Post Post #1099 (ISO) » Wed Jul 20, 2022 9:25 pm

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In post 1094, Fredrick A Campbell wrote:Malakittens, Firebringer, Enchant are three players I remember as null.
are you aware that mala is dwlee slot? because you townread dwlee then when i pointed out those townreasons were bad. You are saying the slot is now completely null?
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His first post in the main thread was "yes I rolled scum!" -popsofctown

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