Open 859 - C9++ - Postgame

[Enchant]

And that makes sense to you?

Not really.

Idk i am tired and can't see words anymore.

I sleep.

[Klick]

Well, that's just scummy as shit isn't it?

You're elimming me for info because PoE? You got anything else or is that it?

Yeah that's it. I'm pretty happy with that
'Scummy' is a pretty great substitute for 'anything I don't like'

We've already discussed this, you want it back in the conversation because its a part of the conversation that puts you in a positive light and my push on you in a negative light

[furtiveglance]

Malcolm. I'll take that as a compliment.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Of course I want your awful push to be highlighted

[Klick]

I have you as null BBT, I have no clue how to read you. But I don't have anyone who I overtly scumread and I only have 4 null reads. So yeah I'm happy to vote someone I have as null.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

32 pages and no scum reads?

Seems like a skill issue.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Because he's not a Doctor, he's scum.

No scum reads?

[Klick]

Your hyperfixation on it comes across more like scum who's bothered by my shitty reasoning than town who knows I'm wrong.

PEdit: yeah Enchant's claim was really bad, hence I'm voting him right now

[Klick]

32 pages and no scum reads?

Seems like a skill issue.

Hey thanks man
And this is where I leave the conversation

[BlueBloodedToffee]

How do you distinguish the difference between scum who's bothered by shitty reasoning or town who know you're wrong?

[Gamma Emerald]

VOTE: Enchant

That's E-1.

Time to claim.

>:(

Oh cool they claimed Doc

what is this reaction

[Gamma Emerald]

My idea of something both fun and useful in this game is not getting into an argument about the semantics of 'shading' when it's really clear that I'm saying I think furtive!scum barely interacts with his partners and puts them at null-scum, which would fit if he was scum with you.

Especially not useful as I don't really think furtive is scum here.

I'm gonna put you in null/scum now.

what for?

[Gamma Emerald]

oh wait nvm

[BlueBloodedToffee]

785 from GE is good, didn't even pay attention to that

I need to completely reset in this game. I'm all over the place

[Gamma Emerald]

I think Klick is town for doubting the claim so hard, I think mafia would approach it more like froggo is doing.

okay yeah that other thing was def a joke it just took a second to realize it

[Gamma Emerald]

VOTE: froggodoggo
I think this is worth trying
I wasn't vibing w him earlier and the reaction to enchant's run-up and claim seems waffly in the wrong way

[Gamma Emerald]

Malcolm. I'll take that as a compliment.

I don't really talk about my plurality in mafia games because of fear that someone will attempt to exploit it in-game but Malcolm is the name of one of my headmates/alters

[furtiveglance]

i think they meant malcolm tucker, another user

[Gamma Emerald]

ik, just felt like adding that

[furtiveglance]

ok. no exploiting from me anyway.

[Aisa]

Aah didn't check the thread for a couple hours and I feel like pandemonium happened :')

Hmm
The issue for me is that I was gonna say I'm not really feeling any wagon except Enchant and maybe furtive. But CSF complained about my furtive scumcase, so I was going to reconsider that. Not really thinking BBT or froggo will flip scum. I've thought again about what Infinity was saying about informative/uninformative flips, and I think I've come down in the camp of "always eliminate someone that has a chance of being scum." That just feels better to me that eliminating someone who I think is probably town. Just don't really like that sinking feeling you get when you think a last-minute wagon is going to hit town.

I realise I'm kind of avoiding addressing the actually salient point here, which is whether we should eliminate Enchant even with the doctor claim. That's
because I need to think about it. Think I'll go away and do a couple real life tasks and let my ideas percolate and come back in a couple hours.

...that was a pretty useless post wasn't it

[Aisa]

tl;dr no idea if I want to lim Enchant, but don't like any of the viable-seeming counterwagons at the moment

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Who would you want to elim Aisa?

[Klick]

Ppl going 'Doctor, no lim' without actually considering the town utility of a scummy doctor claim with no other PRs claimed and no obvious night kill

It's close to useless at the moment if true and will probably lead to us just still having Enchant on the table as an option around D4.

[froggodoggo]

VOTE: Enchant

That's E-1.

Time to claim.

>:(

Oh cool they claimed Doc

what is this reaction

Frownie face was bc I wanted to put enchant at e-1 and furtive stole my thunder