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[Ausuka]

Votecount 1.7

Galron (5)

- Gamma Emerald, Malakittens, redcardinal, Haschel Cedricson, KittyTacky

Crescent (1)

- Galron

Eiralox (1)

- schadd_

KittyTacky (1)

- Seanzie

Malakittens (1)

- UltimateDetectiveKiriGiri

Seanzie (1)

- EATEROFTIME

Not Voting (3)

- Crescent, Eiralox, T3

With 13 players alive, it takes 7 to decide an elimination. Deadline is in (expired on 2022-08-06 01:33:48).

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I'm definitely not doing lots of votecounts so I can share cute frogs with the game thread.

[KittyTacky]

And you implied I have no scumreads when I'm literally hard pushing someone.

[KittyTacky]

Do you expect me to have 3 full scumreads less than 20 pages in? It's just Galron and you, and I'm not so sure about you TBH. I just want Galron out.

[KittyTacky]

And you looked to me like you were trying to obstruct that.

[redcardinal]

kitty there is no world in which I would want to hang you before galron, though my suspicion of you has been brewing for a long while and I can point to evidence for that. as for discrediting- having a lot of townreads is something I find really, really suspicious. what am I even discrediting, your gut? what would be the point of continuing to push galron right now? iirc at least two or three other people scumread him enough to be happy with a vote. honestly I feel like galron's in the bag and I believe galron's scum, so like crescent mentioned I'm trying to figure out what to think about that after, something I've been doing since I started questioning galron

[KittyTacky]

I

always

get heated when pushing people as town. Accusing me of bussing for that tone is ignorance of my meta.

[redcardinal]

lmfao what are you even talking about now I'm not accusing you of bussing for your tone

[redcardinal]

Do you expect me to have 3 full scumreads less than 20 pages in? It's just Galron and you, and I'm not so sure about you TBH. I just want Galron out.

unironically yes

[redcardinal]

Do you expect me to have 3 full scumreads less than 20 pages in? It's just Galron and you, and I'm not so sure about you TBH. I just want Galron out.

unironically yes

[KittyTacky]

kitty there is no world in which I would want to hang you before galron, though my suspicion of you has been brewing for a long while and I can point to evidence for that. as for discrediting- having a lot of townreads is something I find really, really suspicious. what am I even discrediting, your gut? what would be the point of continuing to push galron right now? iirc at least two or three other people scumread him enough to be happy with a vote. honestly I feel like galron's in the bag and I believe galron's scum, so like crescent mentioned I'm trying to figure out what to think about that after, something I've been doing since I started questioning galron

1. I never said you wanted me to die today, necessarily, if you are scum bussing.
2. I had no idea this was something people considered suspicious, but that is simply how I play. I townread a lot of people early and focus on one or two scums. It just makes sense. There are way more townies than scumbags and I have no idea why that's sus.
3. Scum!you is discrediting

me

so I am easier to hang next. Town!you is just a wrong townie who doesn't know my meta I guess.
4. Well I always push people to the end even when they're in the bag.

lmfao what are you even talking about now I'm not accusing you of bussing for your tone

Then explain why you are accusing me of bussing.

Do you expect me to have 3 full scumreads less than 20 pages in? It's just Galron and you, and I'm not so sure about you TBH. I just want Galron out.

unironically yes

Well that's bullshit.

[Eiralox]

shrooom frog ah yeaaah be stooltoadin'

[Eiralox]

whym i seeing red?

[redcardinal]

and just to clarify, the reason you might think I haven't been doing a lot of galron pushing is probably because I'm pretty satisfied with my vote for once in my life- I've gotten some sweet juicy takes from him, I'm convinced he's scum and he's committed to not really contributing much on his own, what else can I get from him? if you actually want him out today we should be on the same side today

[redcardinal]

and just to clarify, the reason you might think I haven't been doing a lot of galron pushing is probably because I'm pretty satisfied with my vote for once in my life- I've gotten some sweet juicy takes from him, I'm convinced he's scum and he's committed to not really contributing much on his own, what else can I get from him? if you actually want him out today we should be on the same side today

[KittyTacky]

I guess we just have incompatible playstyles.

and just to clarify, the reason you might think I haven't been doing a lot of galron pushing is probably because I'm pretty satisfied with my vote for once in my life- I've gotten some sweet juicy takes from him, I'm convinced he's scum and he's committed to not really contributing much on his own, what else can I get from him? if you actually want him out today we should be on the same side today

See, I don't give up on my pushes like that. I genuinely didn't know people did that. I can see it now and I guess I misunderstood you. Sorry for pushing you, your tone honestly angered me.

[Crescent]

Catching up now. I doubt Galron gets eliminated here D1 if they're scum.

crescent how does this post make you feel? not in your head, but in your heart

Catching up now. I doubt Galron gets eliminated here D1 if they're scum.

crescent how does this post make you feel? not in your head, but in your heart

My thought when I saw that post was "player who looked at the game for the first time, saw a large train already, and immediately attacked it on principle before actually reading the game".

This being followed by a vote based on some really early posts and not much else suggests to me this is a player who probably never read much between posts 100 and 300. Settled on a vote based on post #104 and never went deeper into the train.

When it comes down to it though: If Galron is scum, this feels like a ton of unnecessary exposure to take in because the reasons for defending him are awkward at best. The Mala vote is easy to fake, but is ultimately a good vote if you are town and believe Galron is town. I can see the reaction being town-driven distrust of what seems like a way-too-easy train to someone participating in the game for the first time.

That said, I need to see more posts and more content before I feel at all satisfied with it. Theree are no mid-game reactions, and the vote, while justified in her position, is not strong because she lacks the content to back them up. Like, #362 is not going to convince *anyone* that flipping Mala is the play today.

The tl;dr of it all is I see the action being more likely to be town driven if Galron is scum, but I need to see a lot more to be confident in that feel.

Also, likely scum =/= Being convinced someone is scum. There is a very sizable difference between being 75% sure and being 95% sure that someone is scum.

[redcardinal]

kitty there is no world in which I would want to hang you before galron, though my suspicion of you has been brewing for a long while and I can point to evidence for that. as for discrediting- having a lot of townreads is something I find really, really suspicious. what am I even discrediting, your gut? what would be the point of continuing to push galron right now? iirc at least two or three other people scumread him enough to be happy with a vote. honestly I feel like galron's in the bag and I believe galron's scum, so like crescent mentioned I'm trying to figure out what to think about that after, something I've been doing since I started questioning galron

1. I never said you wanted me to die today, necessarily, if you are scum bussing.
2. I had no idea this was something people considered suspicious, but that is simply how I play. I townread a lot of people early and focus on one or two scums. It just makes sense. There are way more townies than scumbags and I have no idea why that's sus.
3. Scum!you is discrediting

me

so I am easier to hang next. Town!you is just a wrong townie who doesn't know my meta I guess.
4. Well I always push people to the end even when they're in the bag.

lmfao what are you even talking about now I'm not accusing you of bussing for your tone

Then explain why you are accusing me of bussing.

Do you expect me to have 3 full scumreads less than 20 pages in? It's just Galron and you, and I'm not so sure about you TBH. I just want Galron out.

unironically yes

Well that's bullshit.

The fact that you're the fifth vote, galron's reaction when asked about you, the out of nowhere vote, the lack of scumreads outside of galron. all of these things are things I find scummy, and the last two are things that I think are bad for town regardless of how galron flips, things I think scum do to try to make themselves harder to read after people start flipping. also I think I saw something I was thinking about back when I first questioned galron but I can't remember it, might find it in a sec. the chainsaw defense narrative is also just so bullshit like lol, it's not a chainsaw defense if I'm clearly not trying to switch mine or anyone else's vote off galron I'll be here until he's goneron

[redcardinal]

I guess we just have incompatible playstyles.

and just to clarify, the reason you might think I haven't been doing a lot of galron pushing is probably because I'm pretty satisfied with my vote for once in my life- I've gotten some sweet juicy takes from him, I'm convinced he's scum and he's committed to not really contributing much on his own, what else can I get from him? if you actually want him out today we should be on the same side today

See, I don't give up on my pushes like that. I genuinely didn't know people did that. I can see it now and I guess I misunderstood you. Sorry for pushing you, your tone honestly angered me.

it's not giving up on a push! the moment anyone unvotes from galron or a single actual competing wagon starts is the moment I start trying to convince people to vote him again mark my words

[redcardinal]

it's scummy to have a lot of townreads because if you're town you have no idea who could be LURKING

[T3]

gah fuck it's not alignment indicative though and honestly I believe you

I like redcardinal’s progression on Crescent here, I think scum would try to latch on to Crescent’s mixup. redcardinal’s emotion when saying “gah fuck it” also is believable.

[redcardinal]

I guess we just have incompatible playstyles.

and just to clarify, the reason you might think I haven't been doing a lot of galron pushing is probably because I'm pretty satisfied with my vote for once in my life- I've gotten some sweet juicy takes from him, I'm convinced he's scum and he's committed to not really contributing much on his own, what else can I get from him? if you actually want him out today we should be on the same side today

See, I don't give up on my pushes like that. I genuinely didn't know people did that. I can see it now and I guess I misunderstood you. Sorry for pushing you, your tone honestly angered me.

sorry about the tone, I don't mean anything by it. I just like being silly for its own sake sometimes, don't mean to come across passive aggressive
still don't like your push though and I don't buy the chainsaw defense thing was actually something town would come up with, even angy town

[Crescent]

it's scummy to have a lot of townreads because if you're town you have no idea who could be LURKING

Speaking of lurking, 4 of the 5 people who have posted least recently combine for 18 posts, which combined is less than the next lowest poster in the game (19). Eater doesn't have one in almost 2 1/2 days.

I don't think it's necessarily scum slanted to have multiple early townreads though, provided there are good reasons for them.

[redcardinal]

it's the kind of comfort that having a lot of townreads affords you and the lack of healthy town paranoia

has eater been prodded yet? I don't remember

[Crescent]

You don't seem to be doing a lot of Galron pushing after you started accusing me of bussing.

I do want to hear where this thought comes from, as just last night he went after me because he misread my posts and thought I was defending him.

[redcardinal]

You don't seem to be doing a lot of Galron pushing after you started accusing me of bussing.

I do want to hear where this thought comes from, as just last night he went after me because he misread my posts and thought I was defending him.

I'm sorry who are you referring to here? I'm confused