Open 859 - C9++ - Postgame

[Alianna]

2.06

Votecount 2.06

Infinity 324 (E-2): BlueBloodedToffee, Cat Scratch Fever, Lucian, froggodoggo
froggodoggo (E-2): Hiraki, Klick, Aisa, furtiveglance
furtiveglance (2): Infinity 324, Gamma Emerald

Not Voting (1): Dunnstral

With 11 players alive, it takes 6 votes to secure an elimination.

The day deadline is in (expired on 2022-08-01 21:16:50).

[furtiveglance]

I think we should follow Hiraki again. :smort:

[Infinity 324]

Infinity, are you scumreading me?

no, that would've been a hell of an aggressive bus

[Infinity 324]

You were one of the people who stayed away from the Enchant wagon and only voiced support for his lim after it was basically a foregone conclusion

i guess, it's just frustrating to get wagoned for things i can't really control. like maybe i should've been more convinced by the "need to think" thing, it just felt like such a small thing to me and limming someone who has like 3 posts on d1 i just don't feel is a great idea.

[Infinity 324]

Like, you knew Enchant was flipping red and dropped in that you need to reevaluate your Furtive read because he looks bad if scum Enchant. It all looks way too convenient.

ok i'm not going to not make a post because it looks convenient if I'm scum what do you want from me

[Infinity 324]

at the time i was a bit worried about the deadline and felt like the csf vote wasn't really going anywhere. figured i would try to start a wagon on someone who i felt hadn't really towntold

You were worried about the deadline? So you left a wagon/push with 3 votes on it (even though your read hadn't changed) to start pushing a brand new wagon (you were the first vote) because you were worried about the deadline?

Explain how that makes sense.

this is just playing mafia, a wagon you like isn't getting traction so you switch to another that you think might

[Infinity 324]

scum claims pr there 100% of the time, and doctor claim is one of the safest since there's no info you have to report and be held accountable for

A doctor also claims doctor 100% of the time in that scenario, too.

I'm struggling to understand your 'Enchant is 100% scum because they claimed Doc' after not being interested in elimming them at all.

there's more scum than doctors in the game zz

i felt that enchant was >50% to be scum which outweighs any reads if enchant were to somehow be incredibly towny for the rest of the game

i didn't see a world where enchant could live until endgame

[Infinity 324]

I'm not finding Infinity's recent posting towny either. Scumreading furtive's SK claim seems a bit surface level?

it's also like, town has to recognize how much confusion/wine that is gonna cause

also yeah i felt like furtive is >rand an enchant partner (and i'm not sure why y'all think i was setting it up as opposed to, just thinking about what my reads would look like on a red flip? it's clear that's what we were expecting anyway)

and our poe is starting to get thin

[Infinity 324]

This doesn’t really mesh w what Infinity seemed to think I was TR CSF for

oh, i guess talk more about that then? (if you think it's important)

[Infinity 324]

it's doesn't make sense from either Town or scum

i feel like it actually does make sense from scum? like either as a cheeky joke thing or as an actual ill-conceived sk crumb. idk I've seen traitor claim traitor to people as a "reaction test". maybe i'm silly for seeing that kind of thing here but it raises alarm bells.

[Infinity 324]

we can iso furtive again but i don't think the casual-ness to how he's been approaching the game is

that

much of a towntell

[furtiveglance]

it's doesn't make sense from either Town or scum

i feel like it actually does make sense from scum? like either as a cheeky joke thing or as an actual ill-conceived sk crumb. idk I've seen traitor claim traitor to people as a "reaction test". maybe i'm silly for seeing that kind of thing here but it raises alarm bells.

Yeah it was a reaction test. Not serious at all. I would never 'choose a player to visit and kill every night' or 'win if among the final 2 alive.

[Hiraki]

we can iso furtive again but i don't think the casual-ness to how he's been approaching the game is

that

much of a towntell

i agree but i don't think many of his posts are bad

corny, yes. bad - not really

[furtiveglance]

Hiraki I love you. Take me to the promised land.

[Cat Scratch Fever]

Infinity, are you scumreading me?

no, that would've been a hell of an aggressive bus

Confusion intensifies

[Cat Scratch Fever]

You were one of the people who stayed away from the Enchant wagon and only voiced support for his lim after it was basically a foregone conclusion

i guess, it's just frustrating to get wagoned for things i can't really control. like maybe i should've been more convinced by the "need to think" thing, it just felt like such a small thing to me and limming someone who has like 3 posts on d1 i just don't feel is a great idea.

We can talk about who else you think may be scum

[Cat Scratch Fever]

The latest VC is kind of spicy

I'm not sure why or what it means that infinity isn't voting their competing wagon

[furtiveglance]

I said that as well, paired with froggo maybe

[Klick]

I'm getting the sense that very few people are actually talking about or pushing froggo atm, and the wagon on them is by four town players who have independently decided that froggo is scum

[Klick]

I get feelings that Infinity is town but I'm not really confident enough to focus on arguing against that wagon.

[Klick]

Like it

could

be BBT and it

could

be Dunnstral, but idk. Both of them have this WIM for the game at the moment that doesn't feel scummy to me and it makes me feel like neither of them are the right direction.

I'm a bit lost, but I do feel good about a froggo vote.

[Klick]

If anyone is around right now and wants to talk about game feelings a bit more real time that's what I have energy for right now. I don't think I can be assed to do something like dive into Infinity's ISO and try to sort them again rn. Maybe another time.

[furtiveglance]

I'm around

[Klick]

Hi furtive
Who is froggo's partner? I think the highest potential candidates right this second are Infinity and yourself.

[Klick]

I think specifically if froggo is scum and killed Mala last night, they can't be with BBT or with Dunn, neither of whom would make the choice to kill Mala last night