Open 860 | Elected Decisions | Postgame

[Galron]

Sorry, didn't get a day start pm! Reading now

Have you gottne anywere?

[Galron]

That's awful.

[Galron]

In my head it makes more sense not to heal the IC but I really don't know. It seems that starting the next day with IC+1 even if the PR is killed is fine. And the odds of maf getting the PR don't seem (and I mean seem; I don't know the actual odds) to be that great, especially if we divulge a maf.

[RCEnigma]

I’ll heal whoever kitty, I only really townread PP slightly and vivax slightly.

[RH]

Day 2 Count I

Divulge

(HAMMERED) - RCEnigma, Vivax, Radical Rat, PenguinPower, Greeting, KittyTacky

Depart

(LOCKED) - Frogsterking

Not Voting

- Bellaphant, Enchant, Galron, Roden

---

Greeting (-4) - Roden, Frogsterking
PenguinPower (-4) - KittyTacky, Enchant

Not Voting

- Bellaphant, Galron, Greeting, PenguinPower, RCEnigma, Radical Rat, Vivax

---

Enchant (-5) - Roden
Frogsterking (-5) - KittyTacky
KittyTacky (-5) - PenguinPower

Not Voting

- Bellaphant, Enchant, Frogsterking, Galron, Greeting, RCEnigma, Radical Rat, Vivax

Notes

• The combined mod ISO is here.
  
• With 11 remaining, it takes 6 to form a majority.

The

Day

concludes in (expired on 2022-08-04 07:52:56).

[PenguinPower]

Stlll an unknown vs. a known

Yes but if the unknown has a higher probability of being town than scum, it's more than a 50% probability of a better outcome. So give the PR to the second-towniest person. The benefits outweigh the risks.

And honestly I think your constant illogical pushing for this, combined with personal attacks, is scummy.

Thank you. I wish mafia was a simple probability game but at least you tried the hardest.

In this case this decision is a probability game,

as your own analysis tried to show

.

1. I was laying out all of the options...if I was going off pure porobability I would have fully convinced myself and recanted.
2. If we were playing in a vaccum, then yeah, let's go purely off probability. But, and I cannot be more clear about this...this is a social deduction game where MANIPULATION of others is paramount. So sure, there's a 70% chance to hit town with a PR in a vaccum, but that "second towniest person" may very well be scum because THEY ARE GOOD AT MANIPULATING OTHERS.

Remember how we all thought you were superscummy?

[PenguinPower]

ugh i want to edit vacuum

[RCEnigma]

THIS IS A GAME OF WHAT?!?!

[PenguinPower]

puppies and unicorns

[Vivax]

THIS IS A GAME OF WHAT?!?!

I will write a decently sized story about that soon, but I'm not sure in which game yet.

FrogsterKing has powermafia potential in this game. Good confident tone but I read somewhat of a self-profiling intention. Thought I'd put that tinfoil out there.

[Enchant]

Give me PR

I am bad at manipulating others

[Frogsterking]

HEAL: Enchant

[Frogsterking]

but I read somewhat of a self-profiling intention.

Huh?

[Greeting]

Spoiler: Roden's posts

If you're town, don't heal me. Unvote and heal someone else.

Explain please.

If I get a PR, then scum can kill both effectively an IC and another PR at once. If someone else does, scum has to choose between killing the IC and the PR.

EVERYONE UNHEAL ME!

HEAL: Enchant

Currently have a 0% read rate on Kitty unless there's a town game of his I forgot about

I've been looking back over how the vote happened because I remembered Greeting was the leading wagon before Kitty got ran up. At first it was just Fun Times and I on Kitty, I made a case and FT agreed with it, and then more votes showed up.

Day 1 Count VII

Divulgence

(HAMMERED) - Taly, Radical Rat, Galron, Fun Times, Roden, Frogsterking, KittyTacky

Departure

(LOCKED) - Greeting

Not Voting

- Bellaphant, Enchant, PenguinPower, RCEnigma

---

Greeting (-2) - Galron, Frogsterking, Enchant, Bellaphant, Radical Rat
Galron (-4) - Greeting, KittyTacky
KittyTacky (-5) - Fun Times, Roden
Frogsterking (-6) - Taly

Not Voting

- PenguinPower, RCEnigma

---

Fun Times (-5) - RCEnigma, Galron
Radical Rat (-5) - Fun Times, Frogsterking
Taly (-5) - Taly, KittyTacky
Enchant (-6) - Roden
Greeting (-6) - Greeting

Not Voting

- Bellaphant, Enchant, Galron, PenguinPower, Radical Rat

Notes

• The combined mod ISO is here.
  
• Greeting is
  V/LA
  to 25 July.
  
• With 12 remaining, it takes 7 to form a majority.

The

Day

concludes in (expired on 2022-07-26 15:56:07).

Day 1 Count VIII

Divulgence

(HAMMERED) - Taly, Radical Rat, Galron, Fun Times, Roden, Frogsterking, KittyTacky

Departure

(LOCKED) - Greeting

Not Voting

- Bellaphant, Enchant, PenguinPower, RCEnigma

---

KittyTacky (-1) - Fun Times, Roden, Radical Rat, Enchant, PenguinPower, Galron
Galron (-4) - Greeting, KittyTacky
Greeting (-4) - Frogsterking, Bellaphant
Frogsterking (-6) - Taly

Not Voting

- RCEnigma

---

Fun Times (HAMMERED) - RCEnigma, Galron, PenguinPower, Greeting, KittyTacky, Radical Rat, Fun Times
Enchant (LOCKED) - Roden, Enchant
Radical Rat (LOCKED) - Frogsterking
Taly (LOCKED) - Taly

Not Voting

- Bellaphant

Notes

• The combined mod ISO is here.
  
• Tell me if I made any errors.
  
• Taly is being replaced.
  
• With 12 remaining, it takes 7 to form a majority.

The

Day

concludes in (expired on 2022-07-26 15:56:07).

Frog and Bella stayed on Greeting, first instinct is to say they're probably spewed town, but it's possible for it to have been competing town wagons and not matter where scum placed their votes. Though if Greeting is scum, it's very likely his buddies were trying to bus him since it looked like he was going down before momentum switched over to Kitty. Interestingly, Greeting was never on the Kitty wagon, not even to save himself, and in fact town read Kitty.

I'm down to divulge any of Radical Rat, Greeting, and Roden, with my preference being Roden. I don't like how Roden reacted to my push. I think my interaction with them is AI that we're TvS.

This is such a bad faith push. Not so much on me nor

Radical Rat

, but

Roden

doesn't get any townier than this.

Down to divulge

Frogsterking

instead of

Galron

.

I would rather divulge Kitty because I think Frogs is more likely to be town based on my meta dive.

And Andante thinks so as well.

~N

I think

KittyTacky

is more likely to be town, because I agree with their read of

Galron

.

Though using CTRL+F to find Kitty in his ISO, there isn't much. He just seemed more interesting in trying to push Frog and Galron.

VOTE: Greeting

Greeting's gone out of his way to town read me this game and feels pockety. And I don't really scum read anyone who joined the Kitty wagon, RCE is null for me but everyone else felt townie at different points during D1. A pure town wagon sounds fucking wild, but if scum actually managed to stay off of it then they would be in an amazing spot today.

Greeting Frog Bella Taly/Vivax likely contains two scum if I'm right about the wagon.

I understand why you feel that way. People in general are too wary of being pocketed while playing mafia on MafiaScum. Seeking out townreads and then trying to work with them is how I choose to play mafia at the moment. I'm sorry

Roden

, but you're an easy townread for reasons I mentioned before. You have your own ideas in most games, and you go to great lengths to defend them, but working with others has always been your weak spot. Which is paradoxically what makes you towny and your usual self in my eyes.

And here I am agreeing with you for once, and of course you're thinking that I'm pocketing you. No, I just townbinned you for being

Roden

and tried to work with you. Do you think that your own ideas are crap and I'm bad for supporting them? Like?!?!

May I remind you that mafia in general is a team-based effort? Like, you

can

play mafia as an individual, but you win the game as a team?

Maybe this will give you some food for thought.

[Greeting]

I'm down to divulge any of Radical Rat, Greeting, and Roden, with my preference being Roden. I don't like how Roden reacted to my push. I think my interaction with them is AI that we're TvS.

This is such a bad faith push. Not so much on me nor

Radical Rat

, but

Roden

doesn't get any townier than this.

Down to divulge

Frogsterking

instead of

Galron

.

viewtopic.php?t=89473&f=11&st=0&sk=t&sd ... er_sort=Go

A recent scum game of his where his play was a bit similar, low activity but long posts. The only real difference is that he was widely town read in that game and I got side-eyed for wanting to Cop check him. Gut and game state made me think he was suspicious there, I just didn't have much substantive evidence and he ended up winning.

If you're town, I urge you to put your past game grudge behind.

And also, if you're town, I urge you to seek out other games to find out that this is the only way that I post in all of my games.

[Vivax]

but I read somewhat of a self-profiling intention.

Huh?

Who?

[Frogsterking]

but I read somewhat of a self-profiling intention.

Huh?

Who?

How?

[Enchant]

but I read somewhat of a self-profiling intention.

Huh?

Who?

How?

Why?

[PenguinPower]

but I read somewhat of a self-profiling intention.

Huh?

Who?

How?

Why?

wut?

[Vivax]

WAZAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

[Vivax]

[KittyTacky]

Stlll an unknown vs. a known

Yes but if the unknown has a higher probability of being town than scum, it's more than a 50% probability of a better outcome. So give the PR to the second-towniest person. The benefits outweigh the risks.

And honestly I think your constant illogical pushing for this, combined with personal attacks, is scummy.

Thank you. I wish mafia was a simple probability game but at least you tried the hardest.

In this case this decision is a probability game,

as your own analysis tried to show

.

1. I was laying out all of the options...if I was going off pure porobability I would have fully convinced myself and recanted.
2. If we were playing in a vaccum, then yeah, let's go purely off probability. But, and I cannot be more clear about this...this is a social deduction game where MANIPULATION of others is paramount. So sure, there's a 70% chance to hit town with a PR in a vaccum, but that "second towniest person" may very well be scum because THEY ARE GOOD AT MANIPULATING OTHERS.

Remember how we all thought you were superscummy?

Bruh.

Scum generally isn't that good at manipulating people as to make the risk of someone who seems very townie being scum relevant.

Now you're ignoring probability and instead do this wishy-washy "but what if the second-towniest person is scum" spiel.

Town on PP.

HEAL: Enchant sheeping Frogster.

[KittyTacky]

I was superscummy because I am simply bad at looking town. I'm decent at reasoning, or so I think, but I'm always a day miller.

[KittyTacky]

I was lowkey hoping to be divulged so I could not be a distraction to the town.

[PenguinPower]

Stlll an unknown vs. a known

Yes but if the unknown has a higher probability of being town than scum, it's more than a 50% probability of a better outcome. So give the PR to the second-towniest person. The benefits outweigh the risks.

And honestly I think your constant illogical pushing for this, combined with personal attacks, is scummy.

Thank you. I wish mafia was a simple probability game but at least you tried the hardest.

In this case this decision is a probability game,

as your own analysis tried to show

.

1. I was laying out all of the options...if I was going off pure porobability I would have fully convinced myself and recanted.
2. If we were playing in a vaccum, then yeah, let's go purely off probability. But, and I cannot be more clear about this...this is a social deduction game where MANIPULATION of others is paramount. So sure, there's a 70% chance to hit town with a PR in a vaccum, but that "second towniest person" may very well be scum because THEY ARE GOOD AT MANIPULATING OTHERS.

Remember how we all thought you were superscummy?

Bruh.

Scum generally isn't that good at manipulating people as to make the risk of someone who seems very townie being scum relevant.

Now you're ignoring probability and instead do this wishy-washy "but what if the second-towniest person is scum" spiel.

Town on PP.

HEAL: Enchant sheeping Frogster.

this....this has been my stance the whole time and why i didn't just go "enchant you're a genius" when i layed out all of my options...

whatever, i'm done discussing this point and don't really give a fuck anymore

HEAL: enchant