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Post Post #750 (ISO) » Sun Jul 31, 2022 4:44 pm

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Post Post #751 (ISO) » Sun Jul 31, 2022 5:07 pm

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Not gonna read the whole thread tonight I think but I wanna get started
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Post Post #752 (ISO) » Sun Jul 31, 2022 5:12 pm

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In post 14, Donempire wrote:
In post 6, Ausuka wrote:I'm a miller >.>

VOTE: Datisi
No, i'm miller.

VOTE: Datisi

L-2
this post vibes weird, why this reaction? I’m assuming it’s a joke claim
In post 18, Xayah wrote:I know we probably won't vote the miller claim day 1 but I do think Ausuka's reaction to rolling miller seems a tad overblown here.
why do you feel it’s overblown? This take feels a bit off-color for you

tbc I will be going along with believing in my prior read rate on you unless you effectively demonstrate your meta has shifted substantially either in words or in actions (tho I also don’t think my read on your slot last time I played w you was that great, need to check again tho)
In post 24, Coral wrote:Hello everyone!! I'm really excited to play with you all :)

I have an idea, hear me out. The thing is, scamper's avatar is too cute. It's too powerful. If he's scum, we're literally never going to catch him because people will be about to vote and then they'll look at that cute little cat and go "aww" and then not have the heart to go through with it. So what I propose is that we eliminate him now before he has a chance to post again. I've run the numbers on expected win percentages and there's no time to explain it in detail, but trust me, it's the mechanically optimal play.

VOTE: scamper

Quickly, it's our only chance!
This pings me rlly badly, I need to double-check something
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Post Post #753 (ISO) » Sun Jul 31, 2022 5:19 pm

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Val89 wrote:Hello all,

Happy to have been able to slip into another Nahdia newbie game. I do like these games particularly because they attract a certain type of player. I've yet to venture outside the newbie queue, so I am not sure if this happens in other queues, but I've found if I go back and look very carefully at the players who eventually flip mafia, I have found they leave a very subtle clue in their very early posts that they have in fact rolled scum. I'm not sure of the psychology myself, but I guess it's a kind of taunt, perhaps? A sort of "look at me, I'm so smart I can TELL you I'm scum and you still can't catch me", maybe?

In any case, I've started the habit of looking very closely at the early posts in my newbie games, seeing if I can pick up one; and guess what? I think I have one in this game. Let me present:
In post 20, ClarkBar wrote:vanilla with a little caramel is my go to
This pinged me straight away. Like, what? If you are adding caramel to something, it's no longer vanilla, is it? Then I remembered - a long time ago my uncle taught me how to solve the cryptic crossword, of the variety you might find in the The Times or other UK broadsheets. This reads a little bit like one of those - "go to" being an anagram indicator, maybe? It's not standard, and I don't recall seeing a clue with that exact one, but I guess if you are in a rush and you have to make the surface spot on in order to make it fit the exact RQS question that has been offered to you you might have to be a bit loose with the construction. "With a little x", however, is absolutely standard. Seen it loads of times. You take a 'little' of the word X, ie: not the complete word, and add it to your anagram fodder, in this case: 'vanilla'. Let's do that, and let us see if we get a solution: (vanillacara)* =
Aaran Cavill
. First attempt. Easy.

Now, for any of you that didn't follow Second division English football around the turn of the millenium (although I doubt there are many in this player list that wouldn't recognise at least a few of the big name stars, like Mr Cavill), he was a midfielder for Northampton Town FC around 2001 to 2004ish. Can you guess what colour home strip Northampton Town play in? You are probably way ahead of me even if you aren't a fan of Association Football - it's Red, of course. ClarkBar is mafia.

Think about it. Think of all the coincidences that would have to align for that to be a simple accident. The construction is weird. It happens to be an almost perfect fit for a cryptic crossword clue. Solving it brings up a single unique solution that very neatly ties it to a red role PM? Could I be talking out my arse? I think that's highly unlikely. I think ClarkBar must have done that deliberately, and I'm only sorry I spoiled it this early. I do want to take a moment to express my respect for the cleverness of the construction there, Clark, and I almost feel guilty for voting you because of it.

Almost.

VOTE: ClarkBar

I also want to point out that it's been a good 40 minutes since Nahdia announced I was replacing into this game, and me and JamesTheNames still haven't death-tunneled each other in all that time. I think that has to be regarded with suspicion also, but clearly ClarkBar is obviously the lim for today, and we can look at James tomorrow if he still isn't convinced I am scum by then.
So, Coral’s post reminded me of this one, I didn’t remember Val’s alignment effectively so I had to double-check, he was town in this game, so the ping was a false alarm.
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Post Post #754 (ISO) » Sun Jul 31, 2022 5:26 pm

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I also actually did read Claire (I’m gonna call Xayah/MariaR by this name from now on if that’s okay) right in my last game w her
I also think I have a good baseline to read her here as well after seeing her opinions in that game
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Post Post #755 (ISO) » Sun Jul 31, 2022 5:29 pm

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In post 27, Aristeia wrote:
In post 26, Coral wrote:On Ausuka, I personally lean slightly town on the claim. I think it would draw too much unwanted attention for her to be willing to fake it.
uh

i have never seen a town lim a miller claim. usually its just believed automatically.
>_>
I am one of the people who has yeeted a miller and it was very stupid of me
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Post Post #756 (ISO) » Sun Jul 31, 2022 5:31 pm

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In post 40, Ph0enix wrote:
In post 39, Ausuka wrote:Phoenix, didn't you say my claim was NAI? That doesn't sound like you get where she's coming from.
I did. I think it is NAI by itself, but in a scenario where at the end of the day there's no good options for an elimination, I'd choose the player who has claimed Miller over someone who hasn't cause betting on someone having fakeclaimed Miller at the beginning of D1 is better than voting at random, IMO. I think Aristeia is saying the same thing (@Aristeia: Feel free to correct me if I'm misinterpreting), it's just the way she phrased it that bugged me cause it made it seem in my eyes that she's fine "yeeting" you right now as it is, which I'm not.
This seems like a sound mindset tbh
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Post Post #757 (ISO) » Sun Jul 31, 2022 5:37 pm

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In post 55, Aristeia wrote:mmm Xayah is also town

I am very good at this game.[noone laugh at me]
I feel more skeptical of Claire at this juncture
Her calling Ausuka’s reaction to rolling miller an over-reaction feels off-color from the nuance she had in Xenoblade 2 (the game I was referring to as the last game me and Claire were in together)
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Post Post #758 (ISO) » Sun Jul 31, 2022 5:40 pm

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In post 64, scamper wrote:i have no thoughts on the miller claim right now, maybe later i will
In post 58, Ph0enix wrote:
In post 43, scamper wrote:i am!

i kinda think phoenix is townie
Ausuka wrote: I think meg is town
Why? (to both)
your approach struck me as overcautious town, and i think zeroing in specifically on the way someone worded something that bothered you is +town
noting this
In post 65, Ph0enix wrote:
In post 60, Ausuka wrote:What about my post do you think needs elaboration? I thought I explained myself fine.
Meg is seeing what I'm seeing
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I think that makes them more likely to be approaching the game with an uninformed mindset
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I fail to see how one leads to the other.
kinda agree w this
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Post Post #759 (ISO) » Sun Jul 31, 2022 5:42 pm

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Greatly dislike Don’s page 3 posting
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Post Post #760 (ISO) » Sun Jul 31, 2022 5:45 pm

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In post 728, Gamma Emerald wrote:ayo I’m rlly here because Xayah’s sig mentions she is MariaR and I remember her kinda fondly
Prolly gonna read up in a couple hours, gonna be watching a movie
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Post Post #761 (ISO) » Sun Jul 31, 2022 5:50 pm

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The Meg vs Scamper stuff really gives me nothing, the more Meg goes at it with people the less they seem partnered with people but making that kind of assumption is dangerous. I don't know if I get the whole "this is a TvT" fight from that though. Datisi's most townie posts are when they're not sober (funny enough)

I still feel good about voting in either of the two at the moment. Taking Auska's early game aside, when I look and compare posts between their slot and any other of my teamreads I don't get the same sense of a slot trying to sort and figure out the game. The most honest they felt was in their confusion around me. Something a wolf
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Post Post #762 (ISO) » Sun Jul 31, 2022 5:53 pm

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In post 135, Aristeia wrote:I think I might still be pocketed by Coral's sundress it's so pretty
LULW
I think Coral is actually town this time fyi
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Post Post #763 (ISO) » Sun Jul 31, 2022 5:54 pm

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In post 761, Xayah wrote:The Meg vs Scamper stuff really gives me nothing, the more Meg goes at it with people the less they seem partnered with people but making that kind of assumption is dangerous. I don't know if I get the whole "this is a TvT" fight from that though. Datisi's most townie posts are when they're not sober (funny enough)

I still feel good about voting in either of the two at the moment. Taking Auska's early game aside, when I look and compare posts between their slot and any other of my teamreads I don't get the same sense of a slot trying to sort and figure out the game. The most honest they felt was in their confusion around me. Something a wolf
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I don’t wanna yeet scamper today
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Post Post #764 (ISO) » Sun Jul 31, 2022 6:00 pm

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In post 187, Ausuka wrote:
In post 184, Galron wrote:Who are we killing?
You :twisted:
I kinda like this for town
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Post Post #765 (ISO) » Sun Jul 31, 2022 7:26 pm

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Hi! I had a positively wonderful day, and I feel very happy :)

I mostly skimmed and will post some real thoughts tomorrow, but for now:

Drunktisi was very entertaining, and I probably shouldn't townread it but I think I will anyway.

I'll miss you Ari <3 Hope everything is alright! Welcome, Gamma, nice to see you again!

I'm willing to
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Galron's latest pop in... is not a great look.

More tomorrow, I should be much more available, good night!
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Post Post #766 (ISO) » Sun Jul 31, 2022 7:46 pm

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Ari vs meg is tvt
Solve should be in {Ausuka, Galron, GE, Xayah, Coral} in descending order of suspicion
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Post Post #767 (ISO) » Sun Jul 31, 2022 9:06 pm

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In post 748, Galron wrote:I'm not going to closely read the last 13 pages unless there's somehting I need to see. I did a skim through and I'm okay with limming donempire at this point. His whole e-1 thing doesn't read as genuine and his reliance on mech is easy to fake. I don't know who his buddies are but more votes on done please.
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Post Post #768 (ISO) » Sun Jul 31, 2022 9:09 pm

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meg v scamper seems to like leak heavily into playstyle issues. i think i get the vibes they genuinely believe what they're saying and are frustrated at the other which is probably+town for both, I was townreading meg anyway

this is probably more likely to be town scamper on balance, they're a difficult read but them getting scrappy seems like it would be more likely to be town them Vs them putting on a clean performance for the town, if that makes sense
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Post Post #769 (ISO) » Sun Jul 31, 2022 9:10 pm

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tbh still think we should just Lim galron lole

If that slot is scum I think done is spewed town
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Post Post #770 (ISO) » Sun Jul 31, 2022 9:10 pm

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Not sure why Xayah thinks I haven't been solving

Gamma seems towny so far I guess
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Post Post #771 (ISO) » Sun Jul 31, 2022 9:12 pm

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Still don't really understand why people are scumreading Datisi
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Post Post #772 (ISO) » Sun Jul 31, 2022 9:13 pm

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Post Post #773 (ISO) » Sun Jul 31, 2022 9:19 pm

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Thank you Dstisi

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Post Post #774 (ISO) » Sun Jul 31, 2022 9:47 pm

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In post 773, Ausuka wrote:Thank you Dstisi

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is this an actual spoiler, this looks like a your turn to die photo
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