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7 out of 8 town need to vote together to yeet a scum
when have you seen 7/8 town agree on anything and be correctI will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”~M- Datisi
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if "town is 2/3rds way to its wincon" is too much, i guess i can try to find a way to nerf it, but like
idk it intuitively felt right to me but do i know anything about balance lolI will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”~M- Aristeia
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well maybe scum should git gudI will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”~M- Datisi
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wait, game can't end without a winner if a scum yeet happens since
town gets 1 point for that, 4 scum left in the game
at least one faction has to get to 3 in that time to win, so that's fine
i am slightly worried about, if it's worth only 1 point, that scum just turbobusses the weakest buddy, then coasts the rest of the game, butI will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”~M- Datisi
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I will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”~M- Gamma Emerald
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This setup looks very cool, on paper scum would win by having 3 TRed scum go up against 3 less TRed row but in practice a moreflid strategy would be required
My one thought looking solely at the OP is that having someone show up in the test multiple times should be disallowed<Embrace The Void>
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I don’t like this change tbhIn post 18, Datisi wrote:maybe the game as it is in the op, except remove the voting phase and make the scum pick both slots, one of each alignment?
I think allowing town 50% control of the test pair allows for interesting strategies
Like, two approaches with the same core idea would be
A) vote in a towny player, and depending on who gets sent in determine whether scum was voted in
B) vote a scummy player in and see who scum pick in response to that
Another point is that pocketing is a bit disincentivized under the original concept since the pocket target can get voted in, and regardless of outcome they get removed from active play. I’m in favor of that wrinkle, to be clear.<Embrace The Void>
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the one in the op is in the garbage, look at 31In post 32, Gamma Emerald wrote:This setup looks very cool, on paper scum would win by having 3 TRed scum go up against 3 less TRed row but in practice a moreflid strategy would be required
My one thought looking solely at the OP is that having someone show up in the test multiple times should be disallowedI will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”~M- Gamma Emerald
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I do think the idea of immediately killing the 1v1 is interesting - it obviously removes the awkwardness of the 1v1 just constantly complaining that everything the other person says is scummy.
Giving town control over one of the pair is too strong. They'll just pick the consensus towniest person and ignore the mafia's choice of who to put against them, or vice versa, but probably the towniest person bc most players are town. Why listen to what the mafia have to say? Heck, just picking someone at random, voting them in, and then assuming they're town would give town a super high win rate on average, similar to the monty hall problem.
This version with scum picking the whole 1v1 reminds me of Partition, where scum have a really high amount of freedom to craft a specific situation that they think they'll be able to win, but where it's hard to predict how the town will take it. There's lots of different variations you could do within this that could be interesting. You could force scum to lock in what all the pairs are going to be and in what order at the end of day one. You could give town more autonomy in some less robust way than just picking one of the two players - for instance, maybe they can vote in 2-3 people and mafia have to include at least one of them, which would be much less statistically broken for town I think. You could do something like allowing scum to pick two townies and town needing to figure that out. You could make it so scum picks 3 players with 1 scum out of them, but town doesn't need as many points to win compared to scum. Etc, etc.- Titus
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