Newbie 2099 | GTA San Andreas | Endgame

[Juice]

i dont mean Rad - I mean Elmk. Still not used to people names. Elmk and Fancy Pants makes the most sense as a team.

[Juice]

VOTE: ELMK

[Juice]

if you had PR - you wouldn't be so foolish.

[FancyPants]

Hey Juice

I'm stupid.

Please let me know if I'm right in my understanding:

Elemk is scum because in the below post:

Wait crap VOTE: Unvote he is at E-1 if I vote him

You feel this is posturing and performative rather than genuine. Elemk is "pretending" to be a good townie, rather than actually a good townie.

Can you clarify why Bulba was sus for you?

2) you didn't quote everything I said - you only quoted what helped build your narrative. At this point it feels like you are outing yourself - which makes me think either Rad or Bulba are your partner and this game is already over.

I'm also aware I didn't quote your whole posts I was just quoting the bits that were relevant to my argument.

If you think I'm scum Juice - you should vote me.

[Rad]

So let me get this straight juice.

Fancy is definitely scum. And he's scum with either elemk or bulba. So the best move is to vote one of his maybe scum partners?

[Bulbazoor]

@Rad.
I'm genuinely sorry if I'm making the game less fun for you, solving the game is what I get out of it - and I feel bad if you feel me try-harding is a buzz kill.

I actually think you're probably town. Voting 5 times and expressing a "I don't give a F#%& attitude." strikes me as tonally town but I wanted to interact with you to try and sort you correctly. I like your last post; logical, genuine and most importantly not at all stressed.

To explain some behaviour: AlwaysNever self voting felt slightly too brazen and meme(y) for newb-scum, I'm not writing him off as comftown, but in my opinion his response was town. Who do you reckon is scum btw?

No worries man. I don't mean to stiffle your play either. You do you. But I think you need to realize that there's probably not as much to be gained from some of this RVS stuff as you're pushing. Regardless, again, you've pressured out some content and now we're out of RVS because of it. That's good stuff and townie as fuck.

I have no scum reads right now. Like Bulba (I think?) also noted, I tend to get some higher town reads easier and then I can focus in on my nulls.

I get that process of elimination is an important strategy for me as well.

To that end got any town reads?

Here is my full disclosure:

Elemk

- I just agree with them - does that make them town? Not necessarily but I know I'm town and seeing a similar thought process to what I'm feeling is a good sign.

Cat.Jpeg

- POE Scum

GoldfishFromTheMoon

- Appeasement, lurkerish - scum.

Juice

- Waiting for responses

AlwaysNever

- Tonal Town, and Seeming desire to game solve

Rad

- I may not agree with everything you've said but the IDGAF attitude is tonal town to me.

Spartan117

(SE) - A newbie I would say tonal town (IDGAF attitude) but as an SE I'm wary

Bulbazoor

(SE) - So many excuses. Appeasement for why they can't successfully scum hunt, the only thing going for them is that they are laying it on a little "too" thick. My head says scum, my gut says town.

Appeasement of who? I was going to provide reads either way. The whole point of this game is to hunt for scum. Would it also have been appeasement for me to have done it later?

[Bulbazoor]

To that end got any town reads?

You Spartan and Bulba so far town leans.

I am not getting town vibes from anyone but I lowkey like Rad so far
Spartan not so much

Whooooosssshhhhh

(Appeasement followed by a statement without any actual reasoning)

Zzoooooommm

VOTE: Bulbazoor

I like this mix of fun rvs and real read. Comes across genuine. I just disagree with the read.

Bulba's openly presenting as newbie townie who hasn't played for a while and I'm reading him that way too. Feels a lot like my recent newbie town game where I hadn't played since 2014. Just kinda lost while also kinda know what's going on, kinda laughing things off while also being a bit frustrated. I don't think I come into a new game after a long period away and just nail townie vibes as scum that easily so reading him the same.

viewtopic.php?f=50&t=77801

My last game I ever played fully on this site or of any sort of forum mafia in general. It was in 2018.

[Bulbazoor]

To that end got any town reads?

You Spartan and Bulba so far town leans.

I am not getting town vibes from anyone but I lowkey like Rad so far
Spartan not so much

Whooooosssshhhhh

(Appeasement followed by a statement without any actual reasoning)

Zzoooooommm

VOTE: Bulbazoor

I like this mix of fun rvs and real read. Comes across genuine. I just disagree with the read.

Bulba's openly presenting as newbie townie who hasn't played for a while and I'm reading him that way too. Feels a lot like my recent newbie town game where I hadn't played since 2014. Just kinda lost while also kinda know what's going on, kinda laughing things off while also being a bit frustrated. I don't think I come into a new game after a long period away and just nail townie vibes as scum that easily so reading him the same.

I am very wary of Townreading an IDGAF attitude. I don't even know if an IDGAF vibe is what spartan is giving off.

[humaneatingmonkey]

Vote Count 1.02

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Bulbazoor (2)

: Elemk, Spartan117

FancyPants (1)

: Cat.Jpeg

Spartan117 (1)

: AlwaysNever

Juice (1)

: FancyPants

Elemk (1)

: Juice

Not Voting (3): GoldfishFromTheMoon, Rad, Bulbazoor

With 9 alive, it's 5 to eliminate.

Deadline for Day 1 is August 14 at 9:00 PM GMT +8

Deadline Timer:

(expired on 2022-08-14 21:00:00)

[FancyPants]

Bulba who's your biggest scum read atm.

[Bulbazoor]

People I don't have at least a slight town vibe from:
Elemk
Cat.Jpeg
GoldfishFromTheMoon
Juice
AlwaysNever
Spartan117 (SE)
FancyPants (SE)

[Bulbazoor]

I liked Juice before he suddenly seemed confident on the scum team on very flimsy ground.

[Bulbazoor]

I'd like to see where his read goes before I decide on whether it's coming from a town perspective or not.

[Bulbazoor]

And, out of the whole list that I put which is everyone except me and Rad, I am suspicious of spartan the most.

[humaneatingmonkey]

Prodding Cat.Jpeg

[FancyPants]

Hey Bulba
I didn't like your opening, 32 and 35 felt like pre-excuses to incorrectly scum hunt. 36 was supposed to be a pressure post but the "winky emoje" and calling him "buddy" made it feel toothless and appeasing, 67 where you warn us you get lynched day 1 as town also felt like you were qualifying for scummy behavior and 68 where you mention you are rusty felt the same.

That said it was mostly RVS and I'd like to chat.

Why is Rad town to you? and why do you find Spartan suspicious?

[AlwaysNever]

Well lookie lookie, things are finally starting to move ahead. Five pages seems like a good point for me to analyze posts and making reads. Before that though, let me just...

UNVOTE:

Let me just read the backlog for a bit, will get back

[Bulbazoor]

Hey Bulba
I didn't like your opening, 32 and 35 felt like pre-excuses to incorrectly scum hunt. 36 was supposed to be a pressure post but the "winky emoje" and calling him "buddy" made it feel toothless and appeasing, 67 where you warn us you get lynched day 1 as town also felt like you were qualifying for scummy behavior and 68 where you mention you are rusty felt the same.

That said it was mostly RVS and I'd like to chat.

Why is Rad town to you? and why do you find Spartan suspicious?

What felt toothless about my post. If anything I was being a bit passive aggressive

[Bulbazoor]

At thus point all I can say about Spartan is he said me giving reads was appeasing which it wasn't because I will be outing reads either way in the future. And it came at a time where there was already a BW sort of building on me IIRC.

And all I have right now are gut reads. Nothing based on substance. It is strange to me how someone can already have so many reads when it is so early on and we have like seven days left.

And how am I supposed to explain something like a gut feeling (what I call a vibe)?

[FancyPants]

Hey Bulba
I didn't like your opening, 32 and 35 felt like pre-excuses to incorrectly scum hunt. 36 was supposed to be a pressure post but the "winky emoje" and calling him "buddy" made it feel toothless and appeasing, 67 where you warn us you get lynched day 1 as town also felt like you were qualifying for scummy behavior and 68 where you mention you are rusty felt the same.

That said it was mostly RVS and I'd like to chat.

Why is Rad town to you? and why do you find Spartan suspicious?

What felt toothless about my post. If anything I was being a bit passive aggressive

"It's time to feel some pressure buddy ? " in my opinion is not a genuine pressure post - hence toothless.

Can you clarify your town read of Rad and your scum read of Spartan?

[Bulbazoor]

So let me get this straight juice.

Fancy is definitely scum. And he's scum with either elemk or bulba. So the best move is to vote one of his maybe scum partners?

I like this line of questioning as well. This is a valid point he made

[Bulbazoor]

I am seeing how FancyPants can be town. He helped us move out of the RVS stage pretty much. Granted I am the subject getting pressed the most but at least it will help me see where everyone might lie as we discuss this further

[FancyPants]

Ninja'd

Gut feelings or "vibes" are totally valid, but if you want to get us townies on board it's important to try and figure out where that feeling comes from, I want to understand your thought process.

As for my reads none are set in stone - as you said it's early - but I'm willing to defend and discuss any read you'd like to talk about.

[FancyPants]

So let me get this straight juice.

Fancy is definitely scum. And he's scum with either elemk or bulba. So the best move is to vote one of his maybe scum partners?

I like this line of questioning as well. This is a valid point he made

Yep agreed.

[AlwaysNever]

32
I really don't like this from bulb. His first post is an excuse to not provide any information and while I acknowledge there isn't too much said yet, it still kinda feels weird to me.

What is more to me is his reaction to instantly vote whoever calls him out on it? Like I just don't get the play here and the implication that one vote is "pressure" seems cheap. THEN he gets asked for context in 50 and says no?

VOTE: Bulbazoor

-snip-

Elemk really just dropped a flimsy argument about Bulba and his at-best NAI newb RVS post and voted, then dipped.

I am not getting town vibes from anyone but I lowkey like Rad so far
Spartan not so much

Whooooosssshhhhh

(Appeasement followed by a statement without any actual reasoning)

Zzoooooommm

VOTE: Bulbazoor

Spartan is even worse feeling like this is scum wagoning on someone being pressured right now

My Sus-ometer is going off I think I've found one of them VOTE: GoldfishFromTheMoon Rad do you want to join me?

Absolutely. Scum cannot be allowed to live.

VOTE: GoldfishFromTheMoon

I swear I get RVS'ed in every game I join, I must have a particularly suspicious username or something. That or I'm always scum

Goldfish is scum because of this post.

I feel like the response to incorrect pressure is outrage or at least annoyance, Goldfish gives us a wink, trying to appease.
Not a genuine town reaction.

Would self-voting not count as appeasing in your view? I read about how you think that my response was too brazen for newb-scum, so I was just wondering why you think Goldfish's are not?

This is the posts that caught my attention, I am sure there is more in the other pages... but I'm afraid I might have to point it out later cause I have stuff to do. With that said, Elemk and Spartan look the least townish to me, but since I haven't scoured everyone yet I would not immediately make them a scumread in my eyes.

If I have to put money into someone being town, my gut would say Rad or Juice. Will be back later.