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[redcardinal]

Like the way I see 1380 right now is that you’re saying that scum!you would have known scum!Mala wasn’t mason?

scum!me would have known that there were no mafia prs that could have made gamma show up as vanilla

[redcardinal]

so I would have understood it was a joke immediately

[T3]

my PoE was schadd, haschel, klick, and mala. just did a dive on them and klick/mala and haschel/schadd were the potential scumteams I could think of. THEN I REMEMBERED eiralox copped schadd n1! I think it's very possible mafia has prs to compensate for rolecop + roleblocker but I think this is a solve, klick/mala is game

This sudden revelation screams genuine scumhunting.

[redcardinal]

plus they both come after me today after a kill frames the fuck out of me? yeah this is it yall

[redcardinal]

mala comes in with the weird shade on enchant in 1379 and klick expresses some doubt about haschel in the vote on me just in case things go wrong and they need to switch off me

[Seanzie]

Alright I'm all caught up

Here's where I'm currently at on people individually:

TOWN
Klick
Seanzie
Malakittens
T3

???
Enchant
KittyTacky
schadd_
Haschel

Likely Scum
redcardinal

I feel slightly worse about Haschel than I do about the other null players. However, the theory currently running around in my head is redcardinal/schadd_:

Votecount 2.7

Eiralox (3)

- schadd_, Klick, T3

Klick (2)

- Haschel Cedricson, redcardinal

schadd_ (2)

- Gamma Emerald, Malakittens

KittyTacky (1)

- Seanzie

redcardinal (1)

- Enchant

Not Voting (2)

- Eiralox, KittyTacky

With 11 players alive, it takes 6 to decide an elimination. Deadline is in (expired on 2022-08-08 12:11:33).

Mod notes

Please let me know if you notice any errors!

redcardinal's push on my slot came as the Eiralox wagon picked up steam, and the way rc pushed the vote on me felt motivated. I feel like pushing me at the time rc did is pretty poor optically, unless she's trying to achieve something. And the something I think she was trying to achieve was pulling potential pressure away from a schadd_ wagon.

I can expand more on this later but work now.
VOTE: redcardinal

So from what I can tell, you have me pretty much as a town!lock. Being in this coveted position, I'd like to ask you to do me a favor. Would you be willing to attempt to towncase RedCardinal? You've been scumreading them pretty much without wavering since you got into the thread, and I think they're town. In order to help me read you, I'd like to see if you can consider the flipside of Red's posts.

I'm not asking you to necessarily change your read on Red, but just like... go through their ISO and try to see if you can give any evidence for town!Red here (even if you think the evidence for scum!Red outweighs the evidence for town!Red).

[T3]

Like the way I see 1380 right now is that you’re saying that scum!you would have known scum!Mala wasn’t mason?

scum!me would have known that there were no mafia prs that could have made gamma show up as vanilla

But what if it’s a town PR that makes Gamma show up as vanilla? Or a thing with Mala’s role?

[redcardinal]

I was assuming mala was trying to claim there was some kind of mafia pr role that vanillized her mason partner, i.e. "why did you shoot my partner and why didn't they show up as mason" bc I took that accusation seriously I cannot be mafia bc if I were mafia I would have known the accusation was impossible

[redcardinal]

if I were mafia then my assumption would be that mala was telling the truth about the mason claim, so I would have thought of the idea that there might be a town pr or a thing with mala's role that could have caused it instead, bc I would know for sure there wasn't a mafia pr reason

[Malakittens]

Oh my god it was a joke

Holy ducking hell

Lmafo

I can’t lol

I’m rolling dying rn

But RC is prob town

UNVOTE: RC

T3 is still town imo
KT as well
Schadd is prob town as well

So I’m ok with a pool of {enchant & the rest tbh I forgot the names and I’m too lazy to go look them up

[T3]

eiralox returning vanilla on schadd is a further indicator that schadd is town bc mafia likely have prs beyond just an informed

We only know of the existence of one town PR. You’re treating KT as if he is guaranteed town.

[T3]

Assuming that KT is town, we still don’t know what other PR’s are in the setup. There could be some other super powerful roles, or there could be just some weak roles.

A Town Rolecop and a Town Roleblocker are quite weak, I don’t think that Mafia would have much compensation for them, if any.

I don’t think I’ve explained this well, my thought process feels convoluted.

[redcardinal]

eiralox returning vanilla on schadd is a further indicator that schadd is town bc mafia likely have prs beyond just an informed

We only know of the existence of one town PR. You’re treating KT as if he is guaranteed town.

yeah

[redcardinal]

Assuming that KT is town, we still don’t know what other PR’s are in the setup. There could be some other super powerful roles, or there could be just some weak roles.

A Town Rolecop and a Town Roleblocker are quite weak, I don’t think that Mafia would have much compensation for them, if any.

I don’t think I’ve explained this well, my thought process feels convoluted.

no it makes sense to me. just know town has a lot of prs, maf likely has compensation

[redcardinal]

Oh my god it was a joke

Holy ducking hell

Lmafo

I can’t lol

I’m rolling dying rn

But RC is prob town

UNVOTE: RC

T3 is still town imo
KT as well
Schadd is prob town as well

So I’m ok with a pool of {enchant & the rest tbh I forgot the names and I’m too lazy to go look them up

how do you feel about klick

[T3]

Alright I'm all caught up

Here's where I'm currently at on people individually:

TOWN
Klick
Seanzie
Malakittens
T3

???
Enchant
KittyTacky
schadd_
Haschel

Likely Scum
redcardinal

I feel slightly worse about Haschel than I do about the other null players. However, the theory currently running around in my head is redcardinal/schadd_:

Votecount 2.7

Eiralox (3)

- schadd_, Klick, T3

Klick (2)

- Haschel Cedricson, redcardinal

schadd_ (2)

- Gamma Emerald, Malakittens

KittyTacky (1)

- Seanzie

redcardinal (1)

- Enchant

Not Voting (2)

- Eiralox, KittyTacky

With 11 players alive, it takes 6 to decide an elimination. Deadline is in (expired on 2022-08-08 12:11:33).

Mod notes

Please let me know if you notice any errors!

redcardinal's push on my slot came as the Eiralox wagon picked up steam, and the way rc pushed the vote on me felt motivated. I feel like pushing me at the time rc did is pretty poor optically, unless she's trying to achieve something. And the something I think she was trying to achieve was pulling potential pressure away from a schadd_ wagon.

I can expand more on this later but work now.
VOTE: redcardinal

Why do you townread me?

[T3]

Is it just the 2 posts of mine that you commented on?

[Enchant]

A Town Rolecop and a Town Roleblocker are quite weak

Bullshit

They are not weak

[Seanzie]

VOTE: Klick

[T3]

A Town Rolecop and a Town Roleblocker are quite weak

Bullshit

They are not weak

Yes…. I think they are? At least compared to other PR’s. I doubt scum would have compensation for them. I think schadd is a pretty experienced mod, so I’d be interested in his input.

[T3]

VOTE: Klick

Is this because of redcardinal’s solve?

[Seanzie]

VOTE: Klick

Is this because of redcardinal’s solve?

That, something else, and to pressure them to answer my question.

[Seanzie]

VOTE: Klick

Is this because of redcardinal’s solve?

That, something else, and to pressure them to answer my question.

Err... request. I'd guess it is more of a request than a question.

[redcardinal]

a requestion!! perchance

[T3]

What is that something else? Also, Klick hasn’t posted since you requested he towncase redcardinal?