Open 857 | Frienemies | Postgame

[catboi]

hutmeil was killed on Night 5.

He was a...

Spoiler:

town mason

[/spoiler]

It is now Day 6.

Vote Count 6.00

Not Voting (3):

Enchant, fireisredsir, Looker

With 3 alive, it's 2 to eliminate.

Deadline for Day 6 is August 21 at 11:00 PM EST.

Deadline Timer:

(expired on 2022-08-21 23:00:00)

[fireisredsir]

hello i am in pain

[fireisredsir]

ill deal with this tomorrow

pls don't yolovote, whichever of you is town

i will prob stick with The Plan but i have DOUBTS and FEARS

[Enchant]

Why you fear yolovote if you are almost out of danger being target of one?

From your POV, me/Looker must be mafia and voting each other is good.

[Looker]

I won't be voting first out of pure sportsmanship. I just joined this game, I won't be the one to throw it. Good luck to the both of you.

[Looker]

If you're have cases, though, please post them, because...yeah...

[fireisredsir]

Why you fear yolovote if you are almost out of danger being target of one?

From your POV, me/Looker must be mafia and voting each other is good.

two factors

1) you're both a little bit... unpredictable. idk what you'll do. which, btw, is why i would never willingly set up this elo if i were scum here. i like to have people in elo who i can predict what they'll do

2) if you just immediately vote each other then the mafia doesn't have to even pretend to try to solve the game. i would like to see that happen first

[fireisredsir]

and speaking of, looker, ive read your past games and you are in fact capable of actually playing the game when replacing into a town slot. so if you are town, please, do so, bc the current approach is not doing anything to make me think you're town

[Enchant]

Wrong. If you predicted i want yolovote Looker, then i am not unpredictable.

Either way, if you have questions, ask.

[Enchant]

Btw from history, that's how Looker plays as mafia. And Town. Useless as both alignments.

So it's unlikely you get help in any case. I can provide game where i saw Looker!Mafia, but i need to remember which one it was.

[Looker]

@fire, which game are you reading that's comparable to this one
@enchant, I've played too many to know which one you're talking about, but I don't think that's true. If anything, I'm not giving into the frustration of this obvious set-up.

[fireisredsir]

i looked at several and as town you would usually actually read things and have opinions and try to progress the game and solve things

as maf you would often just kinda do nothing

what "frustration of this obvious set-up" are you referring to?

[Enchant]

@fire, which game are you reading that's comparable to this one
@enchant, I've played too many to know which one you're talking about, but I don't think that's true. If anything, I'm not giving into the frustration of this obvious set-up.

Ugh, really can't name exactly name of game, but "Let's deduce PR and then don't kill them" is line in that mafia PT.

Game also ended in town win D2.

[fireisredsir]

enchant, what made you think looker/std was blatant mason, and what made you think someone was shielding me from elimination earlier (that made you think I was either maf or mason)?

[Enchant]

STD was townreaded and i didn't understand why, so i presumed he is mason, because otherwise he would be pressurised atleast by real masons. But it seems STD just rided because because.


You was incredeble hard to kill for someone with zero approval (majority thinked you are mafia, but we still killed Andante), so i presumed someone delibately protects you. I also cleared Datisi for wrong reasons, so...

[Looker]

If you've looked at several, you can point me to one. And the obvious set-up is me being here. I didn't vote Datisi, who flipped red, and instead wanted to vote SS, who flipped green. And I argued against the last mason claiming before e-1, but apparently (I still don't see it) there was a strategic advantage to hutmeil claiming with 0 votes on them. It makes the most sense for me to be the fall guy. That's three wrongs in a row. I could spend my weekend reading 3K+ posts just to most likely lose, or I can call this game what it was - a brief distraction from a busy work week that appears to have run its course.

[fireisredsir]

ok, idk why it matters, but a few that i looked at were
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=84025
viewtopic.php?f=50&t=83533
viewtopic.php?f=53&t=81560
viewtopic.php?f=50&t=88158

how exactly would you have been set up here? who did the setting up? the masons' decision was that me and enchant were town, and that ss/you should be eliminated after datisi. your own play didn't really factor into that at all. there's no actions that anyone has taken that would lead to you being "the fall guy"

[fireisredsir]

idk why you need to read 3k posts to like... play the game at all

you could read a few datisi posts. or my posts. or enchant's posts. or literally do anything

[fireisredsir]

the annoying thing is that im not even that confident bc i feel like i have lots of reasons why looker slot doesn't make sense to me as scum

but maybe they just played the associatives well

datisi feeling resigned to death could come from
1) actually feeling like the game was lost, bc he is partnered with looker and in that case the game is lost
2) wanting me to think that he felt like the game was lost, when actually he's partnered with enchant and enchant is gonna carry the game
3) wanting me to think that he's faking resignation, leading me to think it's enchant, when actually it's just looker still

leaning towards #3 tbh

[fireisredsir]

maybe SS was a changeling

[fireisredsir]

hmm ok rereading and ig this could be scum vulture. i thought the honesty about not feeling the vibes/energy to post was towny but it might actually not be

[fireisredsir]

datisi voting vulture in 440 but then doing like basically zero serious follow up pressure or attempts to sort there is like really bad actually

[Looker]

None of those games were nearly as long as this one. When I replaced in or even when they finished.

[Looker]

What's a changeling

[fireisredsir]

he goes a little stronger than i would expect on the chainsaw on hut for vulture but maybe that's intentional