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Juice · Post Post #500 (ISO) » Mon Aug 15, 2022 10:55 am

VOTE: BBT Don't see someone town having this approach

BlueBloodedToffee · Post Post #501 (ISO) » Mon Aug 15, 2022 11:00 am

Still answered none of my questions.

Quoting posts that don't answer my questions still isn't an answer.

But you do you.

Juice · Post Post #502 (ISO) » Mon Aug 15, 2022 11:04 am

You want to know what I said - that is what I said.

BlueBloodedToffee · Post Post #503 (ISO) » Mon Aug 15, 2022 11:05 am

No, I wanted you to answer my questions and none of those posts answered my questions.

Juice · Post Post #504 (ISO) » Mon Aug 15, 2022 11:05 am

I wait for more reasonable players to return - but yeah I am pretty sure Cat and FP are both town for sure now

BlueBloodedToffee · Post Post #505 (ISO) » Mon Aug 15, 2022 11:05 am

In post 449, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:You don't think 2 people who are town can think the same things as each other?

What is wrong with the reasoning for town reading each other? If you think Fancy is scum, what is wrong with his reasoning for town reading my slot?

Let's start again.

Answer this post please.

Juice · Post Post #506 (ISO) » Mon Aug 15, 2022 11:06 am

I don't think Fancy is scum anymore - so his viewpoints on the slot don't matter as much.

BlueBloodedToffee · Post Post #507 (ISO) » Mon Aug 15, 2022 11:08 am

OK, but you stopped scum reading him like 30 mins ago?

And that still doesn't answer my post.

I'm leaving it here and will let other players post and see what their thoughts are.

Bulbazoor · Post Post #508 (ISO) » Mon Aug 15, 2022 11:08 am

Crushing that goldfish didn't flip scum with the way she played.

Juice · Post Post #509 (ISO) » Mon Aug 15, 2022 11:12 am

I dont understand the point you are trying to make - at this point you should just accept that I am town and no one here is going to scum read me.

BlueBloodedToffee · Post Post #510 (ISO) » Mon Aug 15, 2022 11:14 am

How can I accept you are town when you're lining up elims?

Only one of BBT/Fancy can be town. I want to elim BBT! BBT was elimmed, he was

town

.

Oh shit, looks like I was wrong. Fancy must be scum then! Fancy was elimmed, he was

town

You see my problem?

Juice · Post Post #511 (ISO) » Mon Aug 15, 2022 11:20 am

lining up elims?

BlueBloodedToffee · Post Post #512 (ISO) » Mon Aug 15, 2022 11:27 am

Yeah, your argument is that both myself and Fancy cannot be town.

So, let's say you eliminate (kill) me first - and I flip town. You then just turn around and say 'Oh no, I was wrong on BBT, it must be Fancy then because they cannot be town if BBT is.'

I am town reading Fancy and I of course know that I am town, therefore from my point of view, it looks like you're trying to line up two town eliminations.

Given you cannot explain how both Fancy and myself cannot be town together, I have no choice but to come to the conclusion that you are scum.

Juice · Post Post #513 (ISO) » Mon Aug 15, 2022 11:29 am

That viewpoint doens't hold up anymore.

If you flip mafia or town (unlikely) - that I will still town read FP

BlueBloodedToffee · Post Post #514 (ISO) » Mon Aug 15, 2022 11:44 am

I see.

When and why did that change?

Juice · Post Post #515 (ISO) » Mon Aug 15, 2022 11:52 am

I read back the game during the night. Don't see their being a link up anyway

BlueBloodedToffee · Post Post #516 (ISO) » Mon Aug 15, 2022 11:54 am

Hahaha, of course you did.

My vote stays.

Juice · Post Post #517 (ISO) » Mon Aug 15, 2022 11:56 am

I mean we know reading isn't your thing. But some of us are capable of reading back.

BlueBloodedToffee · Post Post #518 (ISO) » Mon Aug 15, 2022 12:36 pm

In post 477, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:Can you show me this big push you tried to counter the Fish wagon?

Can you also explain why both me and Fancy cannot be town?

In post 478, Juice wrote:
In post 477, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:Can you show me this big push you tried to counter the Fish wagon?

Can you also explain why both me and Fancy cannot be town?
Just read through all my posts.

This you reading over night?

Was that also you quoting a bunch of D1 posts from yourself showing why Fancy and myself cannot be town?

Your 'I reread the game overnight' is complete nonsense.

Juice · Post Post #519 (ISO) » Mon Aug 15, 2022 12:52 pm

Think what you think. Do what you do.

Rad · Post Post #520 (ISO) » Mon Aug 15, 2022 3:05 pm

Zzzz really no one's doing any talking except bbt and juice (with special guest Bulba!)?

I was expecting someone to run in with some mech info we could discuss.

What are the chances that our lurkers are the scum pair and just didn't bother to submit a night kill?

VOTE: Cat

Neither Cat nor AlwaysNever had any votes beyond the initial RVS votes. Goldfish had a meta scum read on Cat and we know Gold was town so I'm happy to sit my vote here. Scum team is probably something stupid like Cat/AlwaysNever.

Rad · Post Post #521 (ISO) » Mon Aug 15, 2022 3:30 pm

In post 500, Juice wrote:VOTE: BBT Don't see someone town having this approach

Can you explain what it is about bbt's approach that makes him scum? You seem to think he's lying, and that makes him scum? Is that it? Like, maybe he's scum here, but it's not because he's just straight lying about your play. It's ridiculously easy to verify that you were more interested in a Elemk wagon than the Goldfish wagon. I think what he's saying is that you certainly didn't push very hard. In fact I would agree with that:

In post 343, Juice wrote:
In post 337, Rad wrote:
In post 334, Juice wrote:
In post 332, Spartan117 wrote:
In post 326, Juice wrote:I only think that Bulba or FP will flip mafia - if Elmk is Mafia.

Cat is my biggest town read - but when they mirrored me - I felt unsure.

I feel I should be worried about Spartan
I'm assuming your vote/unvote on goldfish is a vote which makes what FP said in #330 make sense.

With Cat being your biggest town read, which is think is a bit odd given the contrast in the amount of content given compared to others, who would you think would be Goldfish's scum partner if they get eliminated and flip scum?
Game just needs a bit of life. No one else is going to follow me on Elmk today - now that he is getting repped out.
Eh, I'll vote elemk with you if you want. Slot is scummy as is. Yeah we can give a rep a chance to help us read it better but that doesn't make it any less scummy right now, and a rep will take a couple days to really give readable content if they're even active. Apathy has a chance to build if we stall too long anyway.

VOTE: elemk

If someone comes in and wants to vote goldfish, I'll switch back as the hammer.
Going take a lot more than two to get a slot gone.

In post 361, Juice wrote:I'm resigned to the fact he isn't being lynched today - pushing for it would be obstructive, even if I am correct. With only 2 mafia with this setup - we have a few MLs to work with

I jump on your Elemk wagon and you just immediately deflate it.

I dunno what that means with regards to you being scum or town, but it definitely backs the idea that you didn't push hard against the Goldfish wagon, which is the idea BBT's running on here.

Is it a great point in the case for scum!Juice? Eh, I'll chew on it some. Is it BBT lying about your play? No...

Rad · Post Post #522 (ISO) » Mon Aug 15, 2022 3:33 pm

In post 508, Bulbazoor wrote:Crushing that goldfish didn't flip scum with the way she played.

Cool. Great. Bummer. Who's scum Bulba?

Rad · Post Post #523 (ISO) » Mon Aug 15, 2022 3:37 pm

In post 465, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:I think AlwaysNever is probably town and would appreciate your support in the form of a vote on Juice.

Why is he probably town? You kidding me?

Bulbazoor · Post Post #524 (ISO) » Mon Aug 15, 2022 7:05 pm

In post 522, Rad wrote:
In post 508, Bulbazoor wrote:Crushing that goldfish didn't flip scum with the way she played.
Cool. Great. Bummer. Who's scum Bulba?

I will be honest with you guys. I lost a lot of motivation when goldfish flipped town. I really did think she was mafia. I will be paying a lot of attention to what alwaysnever and BBT do today. I also need to examine cat closer.