Newbie 2101 | Better Call Saul | Game Over

[humaneatingmonkey]

Vote Count 1.02

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BlueBloodedToffee (3):

Juice, MegAzumarill, BS2000

BS2000 (3):

esires, BlueBloodedToffee, petapan

esires (1):

Bulbazoor

Juice (1):

FancyPants

Not Voting (1):

furtiveglance

With 9 alive, it's 5 to eliminate.

Deadline for Day 1 is August 30 at 02:00 PM GMT +8

Deadline Timer:

(expired on 2022-08-30 14:00:00)

[humaneatingmonkey]

Prodding Juice.

[Juice]

forgot about this game ooops.

[Juice]

UNVOTE:

[esires]

At this stage of the game, I operate mostly on gutreads.

OK I don't like this too much. I guess to an extent everyone has to rely on gut this early, but it's like, at least

try

to justify a vote with reasoning. Then post 106 looks like scrambling to justify the prior post.

Alright.

BS made a post saying something along the lines of 'A newbie game with no newbies in' and this came across to me like scum complaining that they have no newbies and as such are at a disadvantage.

Yeah I don't like this either. Feels like a stretch. That observation about no newbs felt about as neutral as possible to me.

Alright.

You asked why is loose scum, and I responded essentially not really scum, but anti-town. Meg has redeemed themselves since then.

So this feels like weird logic because if it's not scum, why vote for them?

I feel like scum is within the B names this game.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Wait, what?

Nobody likes my reasoning for a vote on page 5 and think it's a stretch. Well, God damn, colour me surprised.

Were you expecting half a page of reasoning for a vote on page 5?

[Bulbazoor]

OK I don't like this too much. I guess to an extent everyone has to rely on gut this early, but it's like, at least try to justify a vote with reasoning. Then post 106 looks like scrambling to justify the prior post.

We were on page 3... tell me what you were reading based off of at that point.

[petapan]

I would say the loose posts are Meg's iso #1,#4,#9, and #10. Sorry that I'm not linking directly. Also I....did answer your question? You asked why is loose scum, and I responded essentially not really scum, but anti-town. Meg has redeemed themselves since then.

i mean, i question why you'd be good with keeping your vote on someone claiming they're anti-town for...fluff posting on page 1. that just seems a little ridiculous to me.

lol. this is so confusing to me. Am I the only one? I think I kinda understand what you're getting at, but I've never seen someone so freaked out and babbly when they get a townread. You do this again here:

i wasn't expecting to earn a level of trust so quickly for posting that is marginally protown but

lol. this is so confusing to me. Am I the only one? I think I kinda understand what you're getting at, but I've never seen someone so freaked out and babbly when they get a townread. You do this again here:

The way I read it, I don't really see it as coming from a scum POV. It reads more like "wow people are actually TRing me". I don't really see what scum!peta gains from making saying that line.

fwiw, though i'm town this is not a particularly good line of logic - people assume that questioning townreads on you is a towntell but it's very trivially faked and practically a basic reflex for any reasonably skilled scum player. i would be cautious about using such reasoning in future games. judge me by whether my actions are believable and if i'm advancing the town win condition.

[petapan]

Starting to get townvibes from Meg's exchange with FancyPants. Need to see more from Juice/Bulba/BBT. There's scum somewhere in there.

this post is kind of a generic call of "need to see more" and while i wouldn't really disagree with that assessment it's an easy thing to say and i don't see bs2000 actually doing anything to figure out the alignment of those players, just making a reactive vote on bbt for an (admittedly reachy) vote.


with 5 days left i think it's worth talking about who we're willing to vote out. game is a bit soft due to the slow start, could really do with some more people slinging accusations about, but absent that sometimes you have to close your eyes and guess.

i'm not really solid on bs2000 as a scumread but i'd be willing to run them up. bbt hasn't done enough to merit townreading either, don't think they're super likely to be scum together but could see one in there. juice is also someone who i think deserves more pressure

[petapan]

eugh a wallpost what's become of me

[petapan]

went to check fancypants because i'm unsure on him due to low content, i still like the way he questioned meg and came away with a townread b/c it felt like there was actual intent to figure out the player but i need to see something in the way of an actual scumread from him if he ever comes back to the game

[MegAzumarill]

BS2000 feels less self aware here than I'd expect from scum. They don't seem to care as much about how they look so I'm tempted to take their thoughts as genuine.

Furtiveglance/Peta/Bulba/BS Is where I definitely dont want to elim today

[FancyPants]

went to check fancypants because i'm unsure on him due to low content, i still like the way he questioned meg and came away with a townread b/c it felt like there was actual intent to figure out the player but i need to see something in the way of an actual scumread from him if he ever comes back to the game

I'm not invested in this game. I will be. I need to do a proper reread which. Promise to do in roughly 15 hours you have my permission to lynch me if I don't.

[furtiveglance]

I'm most happy voting BBT for now.

VOTE: BBT

[petapan]

went to check fancypants because i'm unsure on him due to low content, i still like the way he questioned meg and came away with a townread b/c it felt like there was actual intent to figure out the player but i need to see something in the way of an actual scumread from him if he ever comes back to the game

I'm not invested in this game. I will be. I need to do a proper reread which. Promise to do in roughly 15 hours you have my permission to lynch me if I don't.

my brother in christ the game is six pages long

[petapan]

I'm most happy voting BBT for now.

VOTE: BBT

1.

that's E-1

, call that out when you're voting so no one accidentally hammers

2. why?

[MegAzumarill]

I'm most happy voting BBT for now.

VOTE: BBT

1.

that's E-1

, call that out when you're voting so no one accidentally hammers

2. why?

juice unvoted

[petapan]

oh my bad, didn't even mentally register the unvote. other question still stands.

[furtiveglance]

I'm most happy voting BBT for now.

VOTE: BBT

1.

that's E-1

, call that out when you're voting so no one accidentally hammers

2. why?

Yeah it's E-2, I don't usually announce E-2. As to the why, just townreading other players. A few other players: You, Meg, Bulba, Esires, and FancyPants. BS200 is seeming more town than BBT right now.

[petapan]

you said you thought he was sus earlier though, that didn't sound like it was a process of elimination read to me

[petapan]

VOTE: juice

[Juice]

VOTE: juice

UNVOTE:
VOTE: petapan OMGUS for the fun of it

[Bulbazoor]

I am leaning towards voting BBT for now. However, I am not going to rush as that would put him at E-1 and we have six days left (last time I checked that's what I saw).

[petapan]

i think we should probably vote juice, because juice is not playing the game.

[esires]

OK I don't like this too much. I guess to an extent everyone has to rely on gut this early, but it's like, at least try to justify a vote with reasoning. Then post 106 looks like scrambling to justify the prior post.

We were on page 3... tell me what you were reading based off of at that point.

Well reading and voting are different things... once past my RV I tried to put my vote somewhere where it would accomplish something (first on a wagon (thought it didn't go anywhere) for pressure, and then on the player I thought was scummiest based on their post.

peta is solidly a townread for me at this point.

I have no idea what to make of Juice. I mean yeah we're still fairly early in the game, but there's enough to go on at this point that a jokey OMGUS vote is a waste. At the same time it feels more town than scum to me because it's just so blatantly not giving an F.

I would be OK with BBT for elim today, def on my scumlist. But no rush either so I'm letting my vote sit where it is.