Open 863 - The Coalition - Postgame

[Enchant]

This breaks 2 times (or even 3) combo of town wins via coailition.

UNVOTE:

[PenguinPower]

VOTE: PenguinPower

I think the other three are rather likely town

And why is that?

[Alianna]

hutmeil is being prodded.

[hutmeil]

@UKDG @Klick Why Penguin?

[Enchant]

So anyway.
Mala town, i give her my vote.

GG with receiving doublevote Mala.

[Alianna]

Hyped has failed to pick up their prod and is being replaced.

[Cat.Jpeg]

We should have known that coalition was wrong there wasn’t enough resistance. 2 people would have been very opposed to it if it was all townies. I’m suspicious of Hutmeil and if it’s them they are paired with Penguinpower, UKDG, or Hyped. I townlean Mala.

[Alianna]

Gamma Emerald replaces Hyped.

[Gamma Emerald]

Hello, I am here to solve the game!

[Gamma Emerald]

Hello.

VOTE: hutmeil

VOTE: BloodB0t

This is a peculiar choice, to immediately pivot votes like this.

[Gamma Emerald]

HEAL: Klick

How can you heal Klick that early? It should make it difficult for people to be convinced about your Coalition if you're RVS healing, so that doesn't seem intuitive for town.

Nevermind, I found that you can Hurt to remove it. Lol

Reckless.

Speak for yourself!

[Gamma Emerald]

I say we make a coalition of the five people who are posting.

HEAL: Mohab500
HEAL: PenguinPower

Sounds reasonable.

HEAL: Hyped
HEAL: Mohab500
HEAL: Klick
HEAL: UltimateDetectiveKiriGiri
HEAL: PenguinPower

kinda sus

[Gamma Emerald]

UNVOTE: Penguin

HEAL: Hyped
HEAL: Mohab500
HEAL: Klick
HEAL: UltimateDetectiveKiriGiri
HEAL: PenguinPower

Just so we can move forward.

Also sketch

[Gamma Emerald]

VOTE: Cat.Jpeg
Hello scum

What made them stand out out of everyone?

Sorry, forgot to actually respond to this
Cat.Jpeg popped in, put a naked vote on me, and otherwise said nothing of consequence. It reads an active choice to post nothing instead of the passive nothingness that others are giving. Cat is fine with how the game is currently going.

I’m not exactly feeling this
I need to read more to be sure about this but I’m feeling like there’s a good shot both scum voted for the passed coalition with 1 in and 1 out

[PenguinPower]

excited for your final opinion now

[Gamma Emerald]

I have a townlean on Mohab, she has a very towny vibe and I liked her vote on BloodBOt after they seemed completely fine with the coalition of active players. I think that in this stage of the game most people would want themselves in the coalition, later there will be compromise, so the acceptance is strange. Hutmeils coalition now means 3/5 people needed have the same coalition 'just so we can move forward' which is sus. I think we can win day 1 but i dont think that will happen if we decide our coalition off of who posted in the first 2 pages.

FYI this is the exact reason i voted bloodbot.

that's also why I sussed bloodbot cat also mirrored my feeling on hut
definitely have a good feeling on cat.gif rn

[Gamma Emerald]

why am i in so many coalitions?

and why are they all the same...

do I townread or scumread this? I could see arguments for both

[Gamma Emerald]

Excuse me
Why aren’t I being healed
</3

Hi Mala
Who shouldn't I heal that I'm currently healing?

Penguin.

HEAL: Mohab
HEAL: Mala

VOTE: Penguin

why the vote on Penguin?

They were least Townie among those to be in the Coalition. Now it's a toss up for me between Penguin and Mala.

HURT: Mala
HEAL: Penguin

VOTE: hutmeil

I want myself, Mohab, Klick and Hyped to be in the Coalition. Penguin voted me into the Coalition and Mala didn't so that makes the last spot an easy choice for me.

Hutmeil hasn't done anything yet I townread.

I was inclined to sus the hammerer of the coalition but this actual seems like a valid hammer depending on how UD proceeds.

[Gamma Emerald]

I guess I do have a question of "why was no one else towny enough that UD felt like going for the coin flip rather than trying to go with 5 solid towns?"

[Gamma Emerald]

VOTE: PenguinPower

I think the other three are rather likely town

VOTE: hutmeil
I think the other is either penguin or UD rn, but hutmeil being the one voter of that coalition that wasn't in it does not reflect well on him.

[hutmeil]

Hello.

VOTE: hutmeil

VOTE: BloodB0t

This is a peculiar choice, to immediately pivot votes like this.

What? That's RVS, what's so peculiar?

VOTE: Cat.Jpeg
Hello scum

What made them stand out out of everyone?

Sorry, forgot to actually respond to this
Cat.Jpeg popped in, put a naked vote on me, and otherwise said nothing of consequence. It reads an active choice to post nothing instead of the passive nothingness that others are giving. Cat is fine with how the game is currently going.

I’m not exactly feeling this
I need to read more to be sure about this but I’m feeling like there’s a good shot both scum voted for the passed coalition with 1 in and 1 out

I agree that both scum could have voted on that coalition. But why do you think 1 in and 1 out?

VOTE: PenguinPower

I think the other three are rather likely town

VOTE: hutmeil
I think the other is either penguin or UD rn, but hutmeil being the one voter of that coalition that wasn't in it does not reflect well on him.

Why doesn't it reflect well on me? Scum would have wanted IN the coalition. I was fine either way - I could be in or out. But no one "healed" me so...

We are sure there's at least 1 scum in the coalition, why are you voting out right now?

VOTE: Gamma

[Klick]

Gamma with the takes I'm not vibing with at all

First of all, we're voting in the coalition today. With 30% chance of hitting scum in the coalition and 12.5% chance of hitting scum outside of it, voting outside the coalition is a very poor choice.

Hutmeil and Bloodb0t are both the obvious people to sus at this point but neither of them are who should be focused on right now. Hutmeil's content that isn't the coalition vote just feels genuine to me.

All in all your catchup has a lot of empty statements and things you could easily double-back on and I read it as really scummy. But that conflicts with my townread on Hyped.

Mala I'm interested in your read on Gamma's replace-in

[Klick]

i should probably read the setup better

HEAL: UltimateDetectiveKiriGiri
HEAL: Klick
HEAL: PenguinPower
HEAL: Mohab500
HEAL: Hyped

this day is too slow

I found this rather strange after Penguin questioned the coalition's existence not long before.

But I've just read Penguin in ISO and I have basically no problem with the thought process that led to him voting for the coalition.

UNVOTE:

I'm probably going to vote for Gamma. But I want Mala's opinion

[Gamma Emerald]

i should probably read the setup better

HEAL: UltimateDetectiveKiriGiri
HEAL: Klick
HEAL: PenguinPower
HEAL: Mohab500
HEAL: Hyped

this day is too slow

I found this rather strange after Penguin questioned the coalition's existence not long before.

But I've just read Penguin in ISO and I have basically no problem with the thought process that led to him voting for the coalition.

UNVOTE:

I'm probably going to vote for Gamma. But I want Mala's opinion

oh that's also something I thought was sus while reading
Like, cat.png's point about the coalition passing super-easy is very on the nose. I think hutmeil, penguin, and UD didn't have the best reasons to vote it in, so that's where I think scum is. That's also why I voted hut: I think it's one-in one-out for scum in the coalition and also think both scum voted for it. Even before I factor in any personal feelings, that nails hutmeil as scum because he's the only one who voted for it that wasn't in it. Then there's the point that UD, Penguin, and hut all voted for it for what I deem less-than-fair reasons, factoring in one-in one-out, I again see hut as the best vote. He's the sole SR I have off-coalition, while UD and and Penguin are both in it. There's obviously work to do to sort UD and Penguin, but I at least feel like voting my certain scum suspect was the right thing to do.

[Klick]

I'd like to see your reads and reasoning for myself and Mohab being town