Open 860 | Elected Decisions | Postgame

[Galron]

Posting. I'll follow any plan that makes sense really.

[Galron]

Three mafs seem like a lot. Do PRs stack? Like Day 3 are there potentially two TPRs?

[Galron]

If you had choice which one you would pick?

If we're going to do this shouldn't it be "choose three?" and go from there?

[Galron]

Why choose three, you can get only one.

Pick with wisdom.

Obviously Neighborizer is best one.

Why give that info to mafs? Both pieces?

[Galron]

Why choose three, you can get only one.

Pick with wisdom.

Obviously Neighborizer is best one.

Why give that info to mafs? Both pieces?

Because i am anti-town gamethrower.

Maybe you are

[Galron]

Okay of prs are random I guess it doesn't matter.

[Galron]

I read the rules more carefully.

[Galron]

Taly acknowledge me please!!!

[Galron]

Two masons? You mean two confirmed players of same alignment without apt? I don't see how we get masons out of this.

[Galron]

If someone is divulged maf we just depart them next day right.

[Galron]

Departing seems more fun but divulging seems more methodical I guess.

[Galron]

I'm that sense frog is right

[Galron]

Yeah starting Day 2 7-3 would be ugh

[Galron]

Not loving frogster or galron

Let's hear it.

[Galron]

Three mafs seem like a lot. Do PRs stack? Like Day 3 are there potentially two TPRs?

If you had choice which one you would pick?

If we're going to do this shouldn't it be "choose three?" and go from there?

Why choose three, you can get only one.

Pick with wisdom.

Obviously Neighborizer is best one.

Why give that info to mafs? Both pieces?

This feels like scum. Like the "questions" all go no where, and just look like "trying to look busy" along with "Oh town is confused? right. I was too before I had this explained in scum chat. HEY LOOK YALL IM CONFUSED TOO!!"

Like, these posts... I'm not a huge fan, like game JUST started, here we are. "Woah. 3 maf is a lot" like why is that something you're even bringing up? and you're all worried about how the PRs work? not how the voting situation FOR the PRs worked? right.. cause you're probably scum who's scared about someone being PGO AND tracker/watcher or something.
Idk, I get major scum vibes here.

-Andante

Not reading the rules is wolfy.

[Galron]

I'm happy that's sorted.

[Galron]

I'm not a this btw.

[Galron]

Either test me like a human or gtfo

[Galron]

Treat

[Galron]

VOTE: divulge galron

[Galron]

Either test me like a human or gtfo

mmmm....this is a bit of an overreaction.

I'm tired of people dehumanizing players. So no, it isn't.

[Galron]

Either test me like a human or gtfo

mmmm....this is a bit of an overreaction.

I'm tired of people dehumanizing players. So no, it isn't.

[Galron]

Either test me like a human or gtfo

mmmm....this is a bit of an overreaction.

I'm tired of people dehumanizing players. So no, it isn't.

[Galron]

Is this NEP v2?

What does this mean?

[Galron]

they were very clearly referring to your posts and not you specifically with "this"

You know how to solve that? Say "this post feels scummy."

[Galron]

That would be clear.

[Galron]

I misinterpreted what you meant. I'll take that. You calling me out for not understanding the game irritated me. And then the "this" which is something I see quite a bit and it tweaks me everytime. I had to address it.

[Galron]

If you want me to divulge you have a path to do it. In pages of people discussing the rules you call me out. Put your money where your mouth is

[Galron]

And Bella you still haven't explained anything.

[Galron]

Is this NEP v2?

What does this mean?

You were scum in that dude. How is that not obvious?

But I’m fine with your slot being divulged. I think divulge is probably the best for d1.

~N

Scum in what? Is that a past game?

[Galron]

I don't remember nep v2

[Galron]

If you want me to divulge you have a path to do it. In pages of people discussing the rules you call me out. Put your money where your mouth is

I asked you if you were scum because it looked like you were shading us for not understanding the mech.

~N

How was I shading you? I'm the one who got called out by you.

[Galron]

Sorry I didn't remember the name.

[Galron]

I guess I was then. Andante scum reading me for not understanding things was wolfy af.

[Galron]

Vote me already.

[Galron]

I did screw up by thinking 3 out of 9 was a lot. It's actually 3 out of 12.

[Galron]

Taly just entered my poe

[Galron]

Taly just entered my poe

?

Looked like a wk post

[Galron]

Rad are you saying divulge/depart vote then we elect the player to divulge/depart?

Pedit nvm

[Galron]

It's not explicitly stated but I guess that's one way to do it although locking into a divulge course and then someone gets scummy, do we revote?

[Galron]

It's not explicitly stated but I guess that's one way to do it although locking into a divulge course and then someone gets scummy, do we revote?

no - we make them the target of the divulge. either they're cleared or we depart them the next day.

Yes. Otherwise people voting "x for departure" and "x for divulgence" will stack toward hammering x, and potentially someone not keeping track would accidentally hammer

I was thinking asking the lines that pp was. I think we're aware enough to know what's being hammered.

[Galron]

Explain please, Rad

[Galron]

If the consensus is to divulge anyone voting depart is going to stick out. I'm not anticipating anyone voting divulge AND depart. The game is small enough anyway.

[Galron]

@ galron, you might just be a tone thing, I tend to scum read aggression/snippy

Fair enough. Why Rad?

[Galron]

Bella did you scum read Andante's post about me?

[Galron]

I don't understand Nancy

[Galron]

I mean I don't understand, Nancy.

[Galron]

Not loving frogster or galron

@ galron, do you mean 95?

Why rad what?

I meant frogster. Sorry.

[Galron]

I mean I don't understand, Nancy.

Okay, to be certain I’m not again misunderstanding you. Do you understand that I’m dyslexic and likely misread your post?

Because that’s what I was reacting to.

Yes, I get that. But I was talking about Andante's post 95. I don't understand your post 160.

[Galron]

UNVOTE:

VOTE: divulge

[Galron]

I think Frog is town with their Roden push

[Galron]

Andante is pissing me off. I can't tell if she's maf or jut conf biasing. I don't have a read on Nancy. Hence I'm stuck.

[Galron]

I don't think I have any town reads. Maybe enchant.

[Galron]

So - dilvulge is at hammer stage. My vote is there in spirit atm.

It's at -2

[Galron]

No groundbreaking season tbh. I'm just familiar with them. I don't think they'd be so easily stung by Andante or very cautious of my defense if they were scum. Bad position for scum to go. Equally bad look to have no townreads and openly state that.

So I think he is sincere, and likely just town.

I have been reading this thread back and forth and I must say that I'm very surprised at this assessment. I have played several times with

Galron

before and I have never seen him so restless. Almost like he's had someone make him a much stronger coffee than usual. I am surprised, to say the least, that no one is even mentioning it.

I mean, would the

Galron

I know get so riled up over being referred to as "this"? (100) Especially since the post where

Andante

of

Fun Times

referred to the feel of the post itself, rather than aiming at dehumanising

Galron

? (95)

And like... what on Earth is this post?

Taly acknowledge me please!!!

Normally, I just see

Galron

sitting in the shadows and poking out from time to time with contributions. And his playstyle has changed dramatically since... March?

VOTE: Galron

You've identified an anomaly, and you voted presumably because of it. But you haven't said what's scummy about it. You haven't even said whether you've seen scum me or town me not play the way I'm playing this game. You've compared my style to what exactly? What is scummy about playing differently? Why don't you unpack that for us.

[Galron]

To me Kitty lacking depths in reads is scum indicative and it’s probably not something galron!scum draws attention to if they are partners with kitty.

Wtf is this? Why are you trying to tie me to kitty? No one has even hinted at something so ludicrous I guess and here you are looking like you're trying to plant a seed that will produce what exactly? Show me where anyone has compared me with kitty. Explain why you're using galron and kitty in the same sentence.

[Galron]

I understood what you were saying rce, just didn't get why I was in there but that's cleared up now. I need to read it again but I'm still not sure what that has to do with the post you quoted. I mean how did frogstee get tagged but frog hasn't said anything about that so I don't know.

[Galron]

Blatant non sharing isn't scum indicative I don't think, frog. It seems a poor reason to scum read someone.

[Galron]

I cannot support a fun times pr with the way andante is posting

[Galron]

At least fun times has a better reason than "he's different this game" or "he's talking setup." Make me think they're just wrong as opposed to maf.

[Galron]

At least fun times has a better reason than "he's different this game" or "he's talking setup." Make me think they're just wrong as opposed to maf.

Who’s this in reference to? Frogs?

No ,me.

[Galron]

Rodenj what is your beef with frogster?

[Galron]

What did frogster make up on you?

[Galron]

VOTE: divulge greeting

HEAL: enchant

[Galron]

KittyTacky do you have any scum reads?

[Galron]

Fun Times is probalby town. I could heal them or enchant. Enchant why aren't you voting?

[Galron]

Let's see votes people.

[Galron]

Where do you get that I'm trying to distract, Andante? Is there no other way that you can read my posts? Must you disparage every post I make? What is my motivation here? Are you really such a delicate flower that I will somehow lead you off your push with a couple of reads?

[Galron]

Where do you get that I'm trying to distract, Andante? Is there no other way that you can read my posts? Must you disparage every post I make? What is my motivation here? Are you really such a delicate flower that I will somehow lead you off your push with a couple of reads?

You're fine, I just want Bella to know I'm expecting an answer

-Andante

But you said I was tyring to distract. Why if yhou don't really believe that?

[Galron]

Why would I get in the way of a push that interests me? Don't you hate it when people answer questions not meant for them?

[Galron]

Whatever

[Galron]

And Bella you still haven't explained anything.

lol nicely done!

[Galron]

At present, I would be willing to move to Galron, but my preference is still Frogster.

Galron is an "I have no idea how to read" slot, while Frog is an active scumread.

Enchant, Fun Times, Bellaphant, and Roden are all fairly strong townreads, and I'd rather not divulge them today.

Greeting?

[Galron]

This is fine.

HEAL: fun times

[Galron]

Fine if you want to divulge me but I' prefer Greeting.

[Galron]

Fine if you want to divulge me but I' prefer Greeting.

What are your other reads besides Enchant, us and Greeting?

Why no reaction to Kitty push on you?

What push? I think everyone's been kind of scummy except for enchant probably.

[Galron]

RCE may be town but not even much there

[Galron]

I think that's already been sdicussed hasn't it. That was more your push than Kitty's . Regardless, the reason for the sum read is valid. It was the me talking about mech that irritated me. And something else b ut I can't remember right now.

[Galron]

I was irritated at the "he's talking about mech" scum read. A scum read based on meta is fine. What aren't you getting?

[Galron]

what ws the who cares all about? Who cares re what?

[Galron]

I guess Kitty hadn't previously expressed a read on me? Is that the deal?

[Galron]

It's relevant insofar as you posted it and I didn't know to what it was referring. What's the deal with the cynicism?

[Galron]

I don't know. It's been just a few hours.

[Galron]

Yea I don't know. What do you think about it?

[Galron]

So what do you see scummy there Rad? More so than Greeting anyway?

[Galron]

VOTE: divulge kitty

I can do this sure

[Galron]

If Galron is scum, we get a guaranteed scum hang tomorrow (or kill on scum this night if the random PR is vig).

If Galron is town, scum is forced to kill what used to be a fairly suspicious slot or let a confirmed townie live.

I see a Galron wagon as a win/win.

I don't see why you're scum reading me other than the offering to divulge myself thing. I sthat it?

Why is it a win/win to divulge me? From your pov if I'm town why would mafs kill me when we have a declared pr?

[Galron]

VOTE: divulge

[Galron]

Vivax do you have any thing to add to the game?

[Galron]

Anything useful that is

[Galron]

I'm thinking penguin, enchant are both town

[Galron]

Dunno about frog. Felt better about him yesterday.

[Galron]

Dunno about frog. Felt better about him yesterday.

Last couple of posts were solid though

[Galron]

Vivax do you have any thing to add to the game?

Yeah the player I chose to sheep is 100% town never rescinding for the reaction to me and that collaborative constellation irritated you enough to ask this question.

Also the year 2022 is nuts

Huh

[Galron]

I'm thinking penguin, enchant are both town

Why am I town?

Your commitment to whatever it is you're advocating, which could be faked but it doesn't feel like it.

[Galron]

And yeah I haven't figured out what' exactly penguin and enchant are fighting about. And rice. But they all sound committed to their positions.

[Galron]

I guess frogster too I suppose

[Galron]

So is the only disagreement on who gets the pr?

[Galron]

Snark on you how?

[Galron]

I guess we'll resolve that later. I'm going to bed.

[Galron]

Sorry, didn't get a day start pm! Reading now

Have you gottne anywere?

[Galron]

That's awful.

[Galron]

In my head it makes more sense not to heal the IC but I really don't know. It seems that starting the next day with IC+1 even if the PR is killed is fine. And the odds of maf getting the PR don't seem (and I mean seem; I don't know the actual odds) to be that great, especially if we divulge a maf.

[Galron]

I'm okay with being divulged, but I think priority should be Vivax or Greeting. taly wasn't all that townie and vivax hasn't done anything.

[Galron]

I'd be okay with roden at this point too.

[Galron]

Whatever.

[Galron]

You going to tell me how I snarked on you?

[Galron]

Or are you just going to throw hand grenades out and hope they connect?

[Galron]

Maybe you can do something that's townie.

[Galron]

What was my reaction to your hangman thing? Show me

[Galron]

That wasn't snark. That was me asking you to contirbute to the game

[Galron]

Eh, maybe I'm wrong and

KittyTacky

will flip red. If I'm right though, I would really like to go after

Galron

and

Frog

tomorrow.

_h_ t__e is __f

so if this means something what is it?

I can't find where I reacted to it all.

[Galron]

Dude if I were to ask you about every one of your posts that looked meaningless I'd be typing until October.

I was going to say that I don't have a sense of humor but rce made me laugh out loud.

[Galron]

Fuck I have no idea what's going on now really

[Galron]

Enchant are you sheeping kitty because conf town?

[Galron]

VOTE: divulge greeting

[Galron]

I'm okay with being divulges btw. 'They can't kill two ICs and the PR so starting tomorrow with two conf town would be a good thing in the absence of having a conf maf with a good divulge today.

[Galron]

One more to hammer I think

[Galron]

I will if you want but I don't think I'm at e1

[Galron]

Galron have you thought about the wonderful scenario in which you get divulged as town? You can embrace the power of an IC instead of leaving it to Greeting.

You can be a town hero in a few simple steps.

If I weren't already voting Vivax, I would be from this post alone.

We NEED to hit actual scum, and we cannot allow the relative safety of Divulgence to override that need.

Having an IC if we miss is nice, but should Not be the goal.

I do understand that this comes from a scumread, but pushing the idea that Galron should divulge himself as Town is outright dangerous

This seems lamist. I know it's kind of a reiteration of what I said to an extent but the way it's written pings. It's kind of rah rah "we NEED to hit actual scum." But doesn't do much else.

[Galron]

Galron I've actually turned around on I think. I do still disagree with the willingness to self-divulge, and the tone is weird, but early on I thought it looked like Taly was buddying him, and now Vivax pushing from weird angles as well. I think it spews Galron's slot Town.

You thought taly was buddying me, thus I'm town when that happened, but you've turned around now to a town read on me?

[Galron]

I mean turned around just now?

[Galron]

Galron what do you think about 633

If you look at 636 along with that it looks like one of those I'm going to pop a scum read on you because you did something inconsistent, which is surface level easy for maf to do.

[Galron]

UNVOTE: divulge greeting

We've got a little time I want to look at something.

[Galron]

I guess rce was hammer. I'll look at what I wanted to overnight.

[Galron]

Frog was spewed town so that's fine.

[Galron]

Frog was spewed town so that's fine.

HEAL: Enchant

I want to turn Enchant into a Mafia hunting supersoldier

Why Enchant? I thought PRs were perpetual.

I don't htink we should be speculating on the nature of the PR.

[Galron]

Enchant why not heal Not_Mafia? That slot is essentially confirmed town. That would give us two PRs and an IC rather than two PRs with one being an IC. Unless you don't think frogsterslot is town?

[Galron]

Giving it thought, maybe it's not worst idea to give someone else right now.

But i am busy with other, so can you not end day just yet before i calculate?

I think the risk that N_M is maf is negligible, and I think giving them three targets instead of two makes sense. If we give them three, it's 50/50 they kill, with three it's less. I'll follow you whatever you want to do though.

[Galron]

I don't understand the super-soldier thing. Do you mean, Rad, that Enchant would get two PRs under your plan or do you want to just possibly change the nature of the PR? I don't think the former is possible. Not sure about the latter.

[Galron]

Ahh. Okay. That's fine then.

[Galron]

VOTE: depart
VOTE: greeting

I'll wait for enchant for the heal.

[Galron]

HEAL: kitty

Good enough. I doubt N_M reads the game so him trying to save someone or target someone would be random.

[Galron]

Neither do I.

To whomever sees me as obv scum I expect you to articulate it.

[Galron]

VOTE: divulge

[Galron]

In fact if I'm obv scum you should be voting to depart me.

[Galron]

VOTE: Divulge

VOTE: Not_Mafia

HEAL: Roden

Why NM?

[Galron]

I thought bella may have been pocketing me but now I think she's just town.

[Galron]

From the reads here, I'd consider scum in me/rce/Taly (vivax). Possibly frog, but im not interested in that today.

You'd consider scum in... you?

Those are the three scum greeting id'd

[Galron]

So if you use the rule of three I'd land at rce also.

[Galron]

I guess we do trial and error

[Galron]

Bella is my only town read other than Kitty of course so I'd go anyone else

[Galron]

I'll reluctantly go Bella because I don't think it matters a whole lot but who do we PR Kitty?

[Galron]

That assumes rce is scum doesn't it?

[Galron]

HEAL: roden

[Galron]

Shit not paying attention

HURT: roden[/rodenHURT:

[Galron]

HURT: roden

[Galron]

I thought you were kitty

[Galron]

We can do better.

[Galron]

VOTE: depart
VOTE: malcom
HEAL: galron

[Galron]

find it interesting that scum decided to yeet vivax over the new PR or the cleared PR.

Really? It's pretty much exactly what I expected to happen

why's that?

They succeeded in killing Enchant, which means Kitty can't be a protective role. Kitty CAN still be either BP or PGO though, plus there's the possibility that Roden's a Doctor and Kitty would be the higher priority protection target. Then if Roden isn't a Doctor, he could possibly be BP or PGO.

The only way a kill on Vivax fails is if scum get blocked (in which case the target is irrelevant), or if Roden is JK and picks Vivax so as not to interfere with Kitty's PR.

Since Vivax is the least likely to fail, Mafia kill there

Why is Roden cleared?

[Galron]

My technical POE is [malcom, N_M, Penguin, Radical, Bella} and I'd be willing to vote [malcom, Penguin, Rad} at this point. If Bella is maf, well played. N_M (frogster) I've been townreading.

[Galron]

We're reckless that way ma.

[Galron]

I want to hear Malcom on why he shouldn't be departed.

[Galron]

Rad doesn't Kitty stand more of a chance of dying as a double PR? Shouldn't we spread it?

[Galron]

I'll claim PP. Never trust an idiot with a gun.

[Galron]

I'll revert back to divulge here. I don't know why we'd depart in xlo.

VOTE: divulge[/divulge]

[Galron]

VOTE: divulge

[Galron]

I'll revert back to divulge here. I don't know why we'd depart in xlo.

VOTE: divulge[/divulge]

Because if we don't we just lose? Unless you want to just put all your eggs in the basket of hoping we get a PR that can block the kill, and that it succeeds in doing so

This is pretty transparently scum that isn't confident they can win the vote, so want to force it to night before they can get voted out.

What is scum? the post or the player? I am not a this. If you think I'm scum, say that I'm scum. Do not call me a this.

[Galron]

I refused to be bullied.