this is how everytown player is that thinks slayers gambit is a good idea.In post 1046, Ausuka wrote:town would genuinely decide that the best way to get information is to be intentionally scummy and then get irritated when people scumread you for being scummy
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Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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Why do I get the feeling that you're pushing me to hammer myself?In post 1045, Ausuka wrote:
Ok great but you said "I agree with my elimination" and discussed self hammering earlier. That's a much harder stance than "if eliminating me will push the gamestate forward then fine." I'd be more willing to chalk it up to a mistake in wording if this was only one line but you seem to have gone repeatedly back and forth on this issueIn post 1039, hutmeil wrote: If eliminating me will push the game state forward then by all means elim me (miselim).
But of course, since I'm VT, I feel conflicted about this since the game is about hunting/eliminating scum, not eliminating Town.
I'm not saying it's the best way. It is A way. Basically we don't have any info on D1 so generating reactions is a way to get info on the day with the least info.In post 1046, Ausuka wrote:
I read your post but I just do not think this explanation makes sense. Like I guess it's not impossible, but I really don't understand why town would genuinely decide that the best way to get information is to be intentionally scummy and then get irritated when people scumread you for being scummyIn post 1043, hutmeil wrote:
I don't think you read my recent post but I made it to get information on D1. It's D1 so getting info by any means possible is good (at least for me).In post 1034, Ausuka wrote:I don't really think you adequately explained what on earth would drive you to make a terrible readslist on purpose.-
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I mean you explicitly asked me what I found scummy about your postIn post 1052, hutmeil wrote:Why do I get the feeling that you're pushing me to hammer myself?
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Slayer's gambit is essentially playing "scummy" with the assumption that scum will try to push you and you find scum that way. Like I'm not saying that's what Hut was doing but I do feel like thats what alot of new players do. And sometimes they get MAD for being scum read and I think it's hilarious and your 1041 made me think of that.
It's like smoking 2 packs a day and then getting mad at the cig company when you get lung cancer. If you partake in risky behavior don't get mad at the consequences.Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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Why hasn't Greeting claimed? or has he?Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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I have 2ish hours before I leave. If I need to switch to Greeting I can but I'll wait for a hard claim and I'd also like to see an explanation for 1019 1024Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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VOTE: unvoteOf all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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Oh, I didn't get hammered. I really thought I did, and was just kinda ready to forget about this game.
Fine, I'll claim if you guys really want me to. I'm a gated Town Cop who can only uncover Mafia Goons (full role isTown Disloyal Simple Cop).
It's a shame I probably won't even get to use the role now. I am, however, still planning on checking someone from my PoE Night 1. My current thoughts are to check out Mohab/Crescent's slot.-
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hrmmm...Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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What makes it such a believable claim?Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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to be clear, if greeting is like, mafia disloyal simple cop or even something like mafia disloyal complex gunsmith I think I could see itIn post 1066, Ausuka wrote:don't think mafia claim roles like disloyal simple cop in practice and it's the sort of thing that's in vogue in the normal queue at the minuteNo matter what happens, I'll be right there with you.-
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I'd much rather be just a Town Cop, but yeah, for some reason that's hard to come by in the Normal queue.
I consider myself to be a rather intelligent person, but I'm not smart enough to make such a sophisticated fake claim, honestly. I would need to have someone from my team invent it for me (10% effort) and then successfully convince me to use it (90% effort), which overall makes it highly improbable.
I'm annoyed that I was forced to claim over absolute bs on Day 1, because the only way for my role to be potentially useful would be me checking out at least like 3 scummy people and hoping I uncover an actual Goon.-
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I mean it was obvious that greeting was soft claiming pr here. I was sorta thinking this was scumIn post 1028, Greeting wrote:nyway, if I was hammered then town just shot itself in the foot.ATEso we didn't hammer him for real.
I was also sorta thinking that Hut could be town b/c I really think that scum would be far more likely to claim PR like ^^^
Another thought I had was that Hut actually was a VT and the Greeting wagon was about getting another claim. But that would mean they were both town and scum is something like BBT, Cresent, ???
or maybe there's just scum in hut/greeting and I'm overthinking thingsOf all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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what should I do, Ausuka?Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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