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[Aristeia]

hehe you've never seen me play scum relly <3

[Irrelephant11]

I'm sure I'd be impressed, but I don't have to worry, MS forums clearly aren't built to send you PMs with red text

[Aristeia]

so true

[scamper]

not sure i understand marci/ausuka but i think it's probably tvt
750 is a townpost, and i'm not sure ausuka gets this worked up as scum?
(also lowkey uncomfortable to read on p31)
(as i wrote this the bizarre thought of svs crossed my mind but i don't really think that's a thing here)

i think their last game would be relevant to understand the context but rather than explaining the details because that would take a bunch of time ill just say i agree its tvt

[skitter30]

not really

ok thanks
VOTE: gl

[skitter30]

also heya relly :)

[scamper]

oh i thought of one more thing: read firebringers iso and tell me what u think?

[GuiltyLion]

the same way, no. which is why i am not uberlocktowning him.

Ok but this doesn't address my concern. Am I wrong that you are townreading him because he sucked up to you in the one game he played as scum with town you and you think he would play the same way here? If I'm not, why do you believe that?

yes. he said in that game that he fearkilled me. which means that he fears my towngame. assuming nothing has changed since then, and he still has the same thoughts on it, i highly doubt he enters this game with "actually datisi is scummy tho lol" because scum!him would KNOW i would become obvtown later on (he hasn't yet witnessed the scumlordtisi arc, i think), while town!him would absolutely poke me early if he thought i was being out of line

I dunno if this is useful to point out but I see people talking about me / my meta and I feel obligated to comment

it's less that I fear you becoming obvtown and dominating the game and more that I fear you sensing that my vibes are scummy/off and making life hard for me as a result, cause a) you in particular pay more attention to how I'm playing or how hard I'm trying and b) because I feel like when we're both town we vibe in a way that I dunno if I can replicate as scum

if town!you really entered the game purposefully playing bad/scummy specifically to reaction test me to see if I call you out, that just further proves it a valid fear I think

[Irrelephant11]

also heya relly

hi! I think you're town because people scumread your entrance to the game in the same way I've seen people scumread you as town like 12 times

I don't have any strong scumreads except, like.... datisi? I sure hope the silent slots are scum

[GuiltyLion]

I don't like the phrasing of 108 it doesn't actually give me any idea why scamper thinks HEM is scum

do i need to explain myself on page 5?

110 is offensively non-offensive.

ok

114 also gave me a feel of trying to stir shit around Nero without actually directly getting involved.

im just disagreeing with a thing he said. like, if i wanted to "stir shit", id just call him scum

addendum I forgot to add, specifically I really dislike the trailing "..." on 114, that's what gives me the shit stirring vibe. like if you think Nero being wrong in 113 means something, say that, if you don't, what's the point of the post

thats just how i type...

scamper, let me into your head a bit, why did you feel compelled to respond to my case on you? I was sharing that mainly for skitter's benefit, but I didn't try to engage with you in the post and if you're town and I'm wrong I'd expect you to understand it's pretty early game reasoning. Are you normally a defensive player as town? Do you have prior town games where you decided to reply point by point defending against an early case like this? I don't feel like you're trying to really sort me with this reply either, so it just kinda feels like a defensive post for ?? reason, help me fill in the blank

[skitter30]

also heya relly :)

hi! I think you're town because people scumread your entrance to the game in the same way I've seen people scumread you as town like 12 times :lol:

I don't have any strong scumreads except, like.... datisi? I sure hope the silent slots are scum

ok so i'll be honest that i've not read like any of your posts :/
can i get a quick tldr on why you think dats is scummy?

@scamper i shall so long as it is noted that i'm quite awful at reading him so idk if i'll manage to get anything out of that

@gl i responded to ur explanation to ur scamper vote on the previous page

[scamper]

scamper, let me into your head a bit, why did you feel compelled to respond to my case on you? I was sharing that mainly for skitter's benefit, but I didn't try to engage with you in the post and if you're town and I'm wrong I'd expect you to understand it's pretty early game reasoning. Are you normally a defensive player as town? Do you have prior town games where you decided to reply point by point defending against an early case like this? I don't feel like you're trying to really sort me with this reply either, so it just kinda feels like a defensive post for ?? reason, help me fill in the blank

why would i not respond to a case on me even if it's early game reasons? i dont, like, care that u were pushing me there in terms of what it means for ur alignment but im not just going to let that stuff slide

[Ydrasse]

INTEResting

[GuiltyLion]

@gl i responded to ur explanation to ur scamper vote on the previous page

ok, looking at that post, my main thought is like... okay? I get you disagree with my read. I'm not confident enough in the vote to start trying to appeal to the game and corralling votes there, so I don't really want to argue the Finer Points of it, you disagree, cool.

and I don't get why you say you don't think they "merited" a vote, like imo we're at a stage of the game where no vote should be off the table. Who do you think I should have been voting instead?

[scamper]

@scamper i shall so long as it is noted that i'm quite awful at reading him so idk if i'll manage to get anything out of that

o i thought you could read him

[GuiltyLion]

where no vote should be off the table

sorry I'm realizing this phrasing might be ambiguous

by "no vote should be off the table", I mean "no particular individual is above being voted", not "everyone should no longer be no voting" (although I would say that is true as well!)

[GuiltyLion]

why would i not respond to a case on me even if it's early game reasons? i dont, like, care that u were pushing me there in terms of what it means for ur alignment but im not just going to let that stuff slide

is your goal to help me read you or is it to ensure that no one else agrees with me about you?

[VP Baltar]

GL, you wanna vote FB?

[skitter30]

Spoiler:

For I have rolled scum.

so town

How wrong can one be

the way your doing it just feels like u want something from me that isn't just my insight like you want me to trust you/think your town here.

vibe feels off

Firebringer - pending to mid-game

id recommend not doing this. better to elim me earlier if ur going to have doubts in the mid game.

at first glance i liked these posts but i don't think they're out of his range so ultimately NAI even tho they're kinda townie

i kinda like his approach to sorting nero

none of this translates to a firm read in my mind, i'm not the best at reading fb unfortunately

[GuiltyLion]

GL, you wanna vote FB?

I wanna finish reading up with the game first but I will say so far I haven't found anything to TR in Fire

@Fire can you channel some of that Holiday Dance Energy cause you were like my favoritest most top townread there and I'd like to have that experience again

[Nero Cain]

also heya relly

hi! I think you're town because people scumread your entrance to the game in the same way I've seen people scumread you as town like 12 times

I don't have any strong scumreads except, like.... datisi? I sure hope the silent slots are scum

ppl are scum reading Skitter? Who?

[skitter30]

@gl i responded to ur explanation to ur scamper vote on the previous page

ok, looking at that post, my main thought is like... okay? I get you disagree with my read. I'm not confident enough in the vote to start trying to appeal to the game and corralling votes there, so I don't really want to argue the Finer Points of it, you disagree, cool.

and I don't get why you say you don't think they "merited" a vote, like imo we're at a stage of the game where no vote should be off the table.

Who do you think I should have been voting instead?

i'm not sure, but i don't think you had a good reason to vote him either, and your explanation is sort of flat and buzzword-y, it feels more like making up reasons after the fact
also i'm not really sure what bone you're picking with scamper rn, i don't think its' odd at all that he responded to that

also the bolded is sort of weird

[skitter30]

@scamper i shall so long as it is noted that i'm quite awful at reading him so idk if i'll manage to get anything out of that

o i thought you could read him

no, i can't really

[scamper]

why would i not respond to a case on me even if it's early game reasons? i dont, like, care that u were pushing me there in terms of what it means for ur alignment but im not just going to let that stuff slide

is your goal to help me read you or is it to ensure that no one else agrees with me about you?

i'm just making conversation

[scamper]

@scamper i shall so long as it is noted that i'm quite awful at reading him so idk if i'll manage to get anything out of that

o i thought you could read him

no, i can't really

nvm then ig