Open 861: The Turing Test [game over]

[Loki Dokie]

Oh and furtive as well but this makes me think that Kuti maybe told us who the other three scum were by omission?

[Loki Dokie]

VOTE: Vivax

I don't trust the Kitty wagon.

Again shade on Kitty wagon. Had Roden just said he sr Vivax more, it would have been far less suspicious.

[Loki Dokie]

also this is going to sound somewhat egotistic and possibly rub people the wrong way but my hit rate on day1 wagons is 70%[7/10 completed games where I am voting for the day 1 eliminated player, that player has flipped mafia.]



I can be a bit of a petulant child at times but it is generally because I am usually right.

Lol. 7/10.

i think Bell/Dann are S/S and this game is basically over

I have bad news.

Bell's inactivity is a p bad look and points to him being probably just scum.

I think Dann decided to try to push Bell d1 to salvage the KT situation but when he couldn't get traction he basically gave up and bussed KT.

Dann probably figures if he flips here that gives Bell enough towncred tommorrow after he flips to somehow escape off distancing later down the line.

I'm busy.

fire being one of the most vocal dann supporters with logic thats surface level correct is also kind of strange to me

like the principles he's using are correct but they're correct in a way that would be correct even if Dann flips scum here;

which feels like thats his primary consideration rather than who is town/scum within the Dann/Kuti dichotomy


everything is about loss, strategy, and like how a scum team looks at resources rather than

who is actually scum

Rather than trying to win by voting out who is scum, its all about mitigating a possible loss that creates a narrative further down the line that feels somewhat like putting the cart before the horse.

Sure.

These posts don’t sound partnery.

[Loki Dokie]

[quote="In post 1462
Rat who do you think is scum that's not in the test right now?

Updated answer: Aristeia

I kind of want to see if Radical Rat will really vote for Vulture

it kind of almost feels like RR is in the same position Bell was in on D1

This is bait, and it's coming from scum. Not for scumreading me, but for trying to goad me into specific actions under the threat of scumreading me.[/quote]

I really didn’t care too much for this reaction.

[Loki Dokie]

Post Post #1212 (isolation #3) » Mon Aug 15, 2022 10:35 pm

In post 1149, Aristeia wrote:

i think Bell/Dann are S/S and this game is basically over

I have bad news.
~ Bell

So Bell was actually telling the truth here, he just meant that Ari was wrong on Dann not him.

@RR don’t you think this interaction with Ari and Bell looks antipartnery?

@RR?

Sorry, brain's been a bit scattered lately.

But no, not really. A toothless accusation on one Town and one partner, when only the Town is relevant in the moment, followed by Bell making a token "Not scum" statement. Seems like pretty standard stuff to me

This reaction is contradictory when you constantly their reasons for tr Vulture. They just completely dismisses my point, which is weird

[Loki Dokie]

it feels way too forced

+1

Then you have Roden basing his much too late Kuti vote in reaction to an RR post.

I think ironically Dann put it into our heads that Kitty was a bus but in reality, it looks like only one scum bussed.

Ari also allowed fire to lead d3, which isn’t really something you expect scum to do.

But the main thing for me is. that eventhough RR was on the right side of Bell/furtive and Vulture/Roden, he never backed up either with a vote. His only votes were on town: Vivax/Dann. Similar to Roden voting Kuti after it was really too late to actually save Dann.

For this kind of game, votes speak volumes because scum could lose the game d4 and last scum never has to get put through the gauntlet, as Ari would say.

[Loki Dokie]

Wait, what am I responding to?

Well, so far it seems like GL and Loki are leaning towards Dannflor, and Fire/Vivax/RR are leaning towards kuti plz.

Anyway, follow up to this is I'd know who I'd rather vote with, regardless of who we're actually voting.

This actually does concern me as well. Unfortunately, I have concerns on both sides, and those concerns aren't likely to be alleviated until I get to see how Dann and kuti flip.

What are your concerns and who with?

Vivax is the obvious one. It worries me greatly that my top scumread from D1 has arrived at the same conclusion, but with so many scum it seems a bit farfetched that BOTH leading wagons were on scum. Plus if kuti IS scum it actually makes Vivax look significantly better.

And then I also have a growing paranoia that GL could be deepwolfing here, but that isn't really substantiated by anything yet. I just find it very strange that no one has really expressed suspicion on him. Like, you'd think at least one or two scum would be trying to sow doubt on a true obvtown. And then if Dannflor flips green.... Not a great look.


But without flips I can't really draw proper conclusions here. Kitty's flip is... Spectacularly uninformative, which is why there may have been merit to scum sacrificing him. This pair is going to be much juicier though

There've been a few slots that haven't had much suspicion on them, not just GL. Why him in particular?

So, let me know if you want me to hammer Dann?

wait until Datisi is about to go to bed

VOTE: kutiplz

@fire, speaking of feeling forced, Roden sets up an obvious attempt to distance RR when he knew his vote was already too late.

Like Roden, your Kuti vote was super cringe enough without you adding a blatantly fake attempt to distance RR into the mix.

I really don’t understand how I severely overestimated his scumgame that much. \_0_/

[Loki Dokie]

Sorry @Roden, maybe that was overkill but I’m mad at myself that I keep falling for that same shit, game after game. It’s on me for being such a sucker.

I just feel so dumb and petty for what I said about Dann only to be bamboozled by Roden’s arguably the worst vote on me in the entire game and I damned well should have known, that using a past scumgame against me, was such a beyond obvious red flag.

[Loki Dokie]

Ari also allowed fire to lead d3, which isn’t really something you expect scum to do.

tbf she would specifically expect me to expect her not to do that as scum and that would be a reason why she might. i think if she was scum she knew bell was going down that day and didn't mind sheeping on a test that was already lost. so i don't think it's clearing in this case

but again, if she had that mindset, then why even pick furtive over someone else?

On d2, she had made numerous posts pretty much scumlocking Bell, so she would have had to know that Bell was going to be toast, so why does scum!her do that, then throw Bell into the pit with furtive who iirc, she never even once mentioned scumreading?

[Loki Dokie]

The way I see it. is that it really makes little sense in this kind of setup to bus on d1, unless your buddy was super obvious scum and I honestly don’t believe Kitty was. Otherwise, Roden would have never made that post.

In OMB otoh, Kitty actually was beyond flaming obvscum in that, so his being bussed was inevitable but not here. Ari didn’t really need to push Kitty as hard as she did. Had she not pushed Kitty as hard as she did, maybe Vivax would have gone through?

Maybe that was scum’s plan, to have Bell in the clear in a Vivax miselim but Ari got in the way of that?

[Loki Dokie]

yea like if she's sacrificing bell i think she just puts him up against me or you or GL who isn't going to get eliminated and is kinda leading things

but RR/roden team might not have picked up on how unlikely it was for bell to win that test

I think they were counting on me to hard defend Bell and seriously underestimated how hard I tr furtive in comparison?

Also Ari was hardpushing Bell d2 and exposed all of his weaknesses at playing scum. If she’s scum with Bell. you try to make it much easier on him. Try to help him by asking him questions he would presumably struggle a lot less with.

Ari/Bell do not look like SvS at all to me and unlike Roden/RR, it looks organic and not at all like distancing.

[Loki Dokie]

do you believe his inactivity is AI?

I can’t read Roden even when they do post.
So.

[Loki Dokie]

If Ari’s scum here, she’s playing brilliantly but I really think she’s town and RR being extremely scummy allgame doesn’t hurt either.

That’s why I think her d1 hardpush on Kitty likely makes her town because let’s say RR was paired with Vulture, he probably wins. If a flamingo obvscum slot like Roden fooled us > Vultue, hands freaking down, RR vs. Vulture would be a slam dunk by comparison.

I think as scum in this setup, you want to do whatever’s necessary to prevent your entire team from facing the gauntlet.

Sure you can argue that Ari gets towncred from the Kitty flip but this is a game scum can lose with one or two scum still alive in the game, so like I said, unless you have a flaming obvious scumslot and I don’t believe Kitty was, it’s seriously anti-wincon to risk hardbussing in this knd of setup.

I think only Bell was bussing because his scumgame is so weak, scum were obviously counting on that to get him townread. Otoh, scum!Ari doesn’t need to hardbus a teammate when doing so was suboptimal and even unnecessary.

She could have vetoed Vivax and hardpushed Vulture and probably look supertownie doing that, why does she hardbus Kitty here when it really makes no sense to do so?

[Loki Dokie]

In a more traditional game, scum can theory bus or almost bus their entire team and still win but not in this setup. Scum can lose with two scum still alive, so unless a slot is beyond flaming obvscum, you just don’t do that. Kitty was far from dead in the water, so Ari hardbussing himfor towncred makes very little sene in this kind of setup. And like you pointed out @fire, if scum was actually attempting to cut their losses with Bell, they don’t throw furivd into the pit when they have much better options if the objective was to sacrifice him.

Yeah, the more and more I think about it. so much about Ari’s play really doesn’t make a whole helluva a lot of sense if she’s scum here.

I think RR was going into the pit irrespective of their alignment, so why does scum!Ari even need to setup town!RR in advance? The only townie who was tr them was Vivax.

[Loki Dokie]

I also question why scum!Ari would dare town!RR to vote Vulture, it’s not like she really needed their vote. In fact, had they called her bluff and actually voted them, they’d be looking a lot better.

[Loki Dokie]

Loki Dokie

, you are creating artificial and unnecessary pressure for a

Roden

wagon. It's true that his ISO isn't very towny, but this is not obvscum. If you're town, then take a step back and let him explain himself.

I have a hard time believing Greeting posts this if Roden is town and Greeting is scum. It doesn't feel white-knighty in the least

I couldn’t understand the scum reasons for the pairing until I remembered this post. I think Vulture was the ONLY townie, Roden had even a snowball’s chance in hell of beating.

[Loki Dokie]

viewtopic.php?f=54&t=87360&user_select%5B%5D=35974

More evidence suggesting Ari!town here. In her scumgame, she is far more reactive than proactive like she was in PYP and here.

In both PYP and this game, she’s actively solving, in her scumgame, she mostly prioritized tearing down other people’s solves, instead of independently doing it herself.

[Loki Dokie]

What game were we both in where I was scum? Or is that just a general read?

in the coalition game you were significantly more townie when pressured. Coalition Micro

similarly in Fusion Upick

when you're scum you tend to kind of don't have that kind of edge/angry tone in your voice.

You don't have the same kind of edge when defending yourself and it feels like you're not quite really here and more importantly you don't feel like you want to be here.

SCP
Radio Buzz


I understand from your last completed mini normal[2276] you were fustrated over being nightkilled on n1 and perhaps not wanting to be nightkilled would be a valid explanation for maybe not being as townie as you have been in the past but this game is not really that sort of game.

in this game, scum can't just shoot the towniest townies - it would be quite suicidal of them to do so because it would make the 1v1s quite lopsided, they have to actually shoot in the murky middle so to speak, as a result you should be trying to be as townie as possible but it doesn't feel like you're enthusiastic about this game at all.

Fusion was just a dumb Day 1 and A50 was being an asshole

Coalition I was mad because I was invested and actually correct on 90% of my reads and fire played like shit which pissed me off more

Not really comparable to a game that hasn't gone anywhere yet and I'm getting D1 voted for the same shit I say literally every game

As for SCP, I was literally at Disneyland on vacation and town fantasized a reason to scum read me, I didn't seem like I wanted to be in that because I legit didn't want to be for a few days lol

Radio Buzz...ehhh my only excuse is that everyone spammed the thread and I couldn't keep up

Besides that I have plenty of town games where I never really got mad, and a few scum games where I was invested immediately. I don't really think this meta analysis holds up when looking at the entirety of my game history.

This doesn’t look SvS to me.

[Loki Dokie]

Too lazy to gather and trim quotes right now, but...

Shading kuti for asking for past games
- I see your point that it's probably NAI and a weird thing to push, but it was pretty early without much else to go on... Could go either way.

Theater with Roden
-A bit presumptuous, but very possible, especially with the provided quotes from past games. And you're right that distancing is crucial for scum in this setup

Kitty shading Dann
-This one is real interesting to me, because it does seem to foreshadow Dannflor's presence in the test today, and while speculating on what we were supposed to think of Dannflor after Kitty's flip is WIFOM I will not engage with here, I do think it's more likely scum planned which of them would die ahead of time than them planning a Townie.

Referring to you as an easy push
-This is probably the most compelling argument for me. I do not believe that him either recognizing or not recognizing you is AI, BUT even without that it should have been plainly obvious that you're not going to be easy to get rid of that way, so it does kinda sound like scum had decided you'd be a mislim target and Dannflor was slightly slipping that.

And who did Roden blatantly distance from - ONLY RR.

Perhaps, Vulture being so scummy wrt to both d2 & 3, was an unexpectedly gift for scum? Because Roden hands down loses by a freaking landslide to virtually anyone else in the entire playerlist.

Vivax being the only town actually right on Roden was never going to be dragged into the pit.

[Loki Dokie]

I agree, it has to be Bell here, and your defense of him is probably exactly why.

I didn't personally find anything particularly scummy about Bell, but I do think furtive was pretty Townie, and I believe someone said before that inactivity was scum indicative for Bell? And indeed he hasn't been super active.

Extremely ironically, that “someone” was Ari. However, RR could be testing the waters, knowing that Bell was probably going down anyway and didn’t want to make waves.

But he never once - during the entire game ever voted for a single scum. The only flipped scum who voted when it actually could have made any difference was Bell. In fact, RR didn’t vote for ANYONE either d3 or d4. Similar to Roden’s completely useless Kuti vote and claimed WIFOM as his reason despite hard tr Dann.

There probably isn’t any game ever where votes are more AI than in this game.

[Loki Dokie]

vote count 1.final

with 13 votes in play, it took 7 to make a decision. day 1 ended.

yeet

KittyTacky [7]:

Bell

, Aristeia, GuiltyLion,

Dannflor

, Vulture, Vivax, fireisredsir

[HAMMER]

Vivax [5]:

Radical Rat,

furtiveglance

,

kutiplz, KittyTacky

, Roden

not voting [1]:

Loki Dokie

mod notes

~ i was literally about to sleep, why do you do this to me

I think specifically because of the mech, it’s extremely unlikely that 4/5 scum were on Vivax and only one bussed.

agree with this

I don't think it makes sense for the scum team to bus KT and have a massive bloc of votes on vivax because bus credit for bell is somewhat useless.[sorry bell]

So I think perhaps maybe the strongest argument for Ari!town could be this one? Scum!Ari would obviously know that RR would be confitown by this, so it makes absolutely no conceivably sense for her to make this post and drag town!RR into the pit with her.

For Ari to be scum here, she would have to be playing some extremely highly evolved element of 3D chess here and I can’t count on one hand how many times, I’ve ever seen scum do this. I think Ari’s just town here.

In a game where scum can lose with 1-2 of their buddies alive, it makes absolutely no sense to put a scum wincon at risk by seeking towncred d1. Like I said, scum!Ari could still look good vetoing Vivax and hardpushing Vulture, because she would look both unaligned and deprive town of that critical one point but her scumgame doesn’t even remotely resemble her play in PYP, where as this one totally does.

RR’s progression on Vulture really doesn’t make a whole lot of sense but it does if you factor in the they knew that as a result of Roden being paired with Vulture, they were now everyone’s most agreed upon sr.

[Loki Dokie]

Post Post #1212 (isolation #3) » Mon Aug 15, 2022 10:35 pm

In post 1149, Aristeia wrote:

i think Bell/Dann are S/S and this game is basically over

I have bad news.
~ Bell

So Bell was actually telling the truth here, he just meant that Ari was wrong on Dann not him.

@RR don’t you think this interaction with Ari and Bell looks antipartnery?

@RR?

Sorry, brain's been a bit scattered lately.

But no, not really. A toothless accusation on one Town and one partner, when only the Town is relevant in the moment, followed by Bell making a token "Not scum" statement. Seems like pretty standard stuff to me

I really didn’t like how they just dismissed this, particularly when they argued something very similar as a reason for Vulture being town but unlike Vivax, didn’t really push that too hard but it’s primarily the inconsistency between their Ari read and Vulture for arguably very similar reasons, that pings me.

[Loki Dokie]

I really don’t think Ari’s posting makes a whole helluva lot of sense here from a scum perspective.

+ Roden’s cringe over the top attempt at wifomming us with fake distancing RR. Scum buddies usually don’t actually try to pretty much hit you over the head with that but it’s like

*Roden practically doing cartwheels to make us want to think the two are never aligned*

is beyond fake af. If you compare and contrast Kitty/Roden otoh - that’s believable scum distancing.

[Loki Dokie]

1737

VOTE: Radical Rat

e-1

Probably not going to change my mind on this unless someone makes an extremely compelling argument why I’m wrong here.

[Loki Dokie]

im also not really sure if scum ari floats the idea of sheeping me on kuti and then turns around and keeps pushing hard for dann

but it is true that her big posts on why we should vote dann and why kuti was town came right as it felt like i was starting to get through to GL, and the loki switches back to kuti, and suddenly kuti might be the lim

so it is exactly perfect timing for scum to come in big and take control of the thread to drag things back towards dann. so that is still concerning for me, but it's not enough

True, I had switched to Kuti solve based off of wifom but her thought process reads really pure. I really didn’t feel that way with RR but they never tried to vote for scum or ANYONE after d2. Ari’s thought process really doesn’t line up with an agenda like agreeing with me that 4/5 scum on Vivax doesn’t make sense, yet she still nevertheless throws RR into the pit? Why?

Was she scum positioning to defend her buddy Roden, not thinking about how it then wouldn’t make any sense to throw RR in there with her or just town re-evaluating her solve?

My thinking is that scum would already have this planned out and scum!Ari would find some other reason why Roden didn’t fit.

What bothers me most about all of the scum flips save Bell, is that none of them ever voted for the scumflip at a time where it would have been helpful to actually influencing the vote and that also applies to RR. Both Roden and RR expressed the correct reads on (for Roden: d2 & 3, for RR: d3 & 4) but either failed to strongly influence the vote or place a definitive vote where it could optimally impact the vote. But RR had absolutely no problem with either putting a definitive vote on both Vivax and Dann. Ari otoh, clearly played a lion’s share of the role in bringing about a Kitty flip.

Then there’s the clear differences in her town vs scumgame. I also really don’t see why scum!Ari pushes town!RR to vote Vulture, because doing so would have made them look really good and their vote wasn’t even necessary to achieve that vote.

Of course, paranoia over Ari being so wrong on both Dann and Roden but you, me and GL all were also wrong but her thought process was very believable and she gave you carte blanche on Bell vote d3. Why doesn’t scum!her just throw in you, me or GL into the pit with Bell then instead of furtive? If she’s scum thinking Bell has a real chance against furtive or she’s sacificing him, then how does any of that make sense, right?

So my argument comes down to Ari’s thought process if scum involves playing 3D chess or she’s probably just town. There’s a strong nuance to her reads involves believable solving. In that scumgame I linked, she wasn’t even capable of even closely mimicking that, in it she just directed her focus to tearing down others’ attempts to solve and pushed them. Then there’s the argument that she didn’t need to hardbus Kitty because had Vivax got run up instead, scum and town would be even and the game would now be 2-1, instead of 2-2 and scum could win without the entire team being put through the gauntlet, so that d1 Kitty flip put scum at a clear disadvantage - one more test for them to pass.

I think the only reason Bell voted like town was because his scumgame was so weak, scum was counting on town ignoring Bell’s wooden posting and instead focusing on his voting.

Now had I stayed on Vivax instead of jumpinv off, who knows what could have happened? Had Dann not been haard opposed to his wagon and Ari not hard driving a Kitty lim?

I think you wouldn’t even had three scum on Vivax is actual towncred was the goal but scum can lose even if two teammates look locktown, so towncred matters far less than losing points.

[Loki Dokie]

reading d3 with all of us assuming scum roden im really not sure how we all just managed to talk ourselves out of it d4 lol

Because Vulture looked so blatantly scummy. Roden would have lost against any other townie.

[Loki Dokie]

i think it had a lot more to do with greeting, but unimportant right now

I think both of them were scummy.

[Loki Dokie]

agreed in general on ari. even the reasons i have to doubt are less strong for me than the reasons i could also apply to GL if that was the choice we were making, and now GL is confirmed town. so they're not points that do enough for me to change my mind

i just like considering all possibilities

Sure but I’m looking at what is most likely, I don’t think we can ever get a 100% confident read but most signs point to Ari!town and RR!scum to me.

[Loki Dokie]

God I want to embrace the most boring activities all of a sudden. Cutting bonsais or whatever, just need a month off anything electronic at least and without crazy evenings.

Loki and fire you both sound kinda similar when reading over the posts. Reads like post-game analysis, you like complex approaches?

I just think that Ari’s play in this kind of setup doesn’t really make a whole lot of sense if Ari’s scum. Why hardbus Kitty? It’s just not the setup to prioritize towncred > losing a point. And she was willing to dump Bell, so why throw furtive into the pit against him?

Then she sounds very similar here to PYP and not at all like the scumgame I linked but the thing is votes. RR never voted scum and if there was a scum who desperately needed towncred - assuming that’s what Ari was going for, why her? Didn’t Roden need it more than her or if RR is scum, they don’t look great being on Vivax. I’m assuming that was what scum was counting on when they threw probably the only townie still on your wagon at deadline and you fell for it. You tr Bell and sr furtive. Ari was pushing Bell so hard d2 and then just surrendered to fire d3? Why?

Also why does Ari push RR to vote Vulture, knowing it would give them massive towncred? So if Ari’s scum, what could possibly be her reasoning for that, knowing she was dragging RR into the pit with her? If you have a reason for Ari!scum doing that, let me hear it?

Because fire, me and GL were all down with a Vulture vote, so she really didn’t need RR’s vote to push it through. It just seems counterintuitive to push RR to vote town, knowing she was throwing them into the pit.

So my argument is that you would logically have to think Ari was playing 3D chess here if she’s scum and votes matter. Had RR ever actually voted Bell or Vulture, I’d be a lot more inclined to buy the 3D chess argument. Also if scum were going to bus d1, why Kitty > Bell? Kitty’s much better at scum. I don’t think scum ever really intended Kitty wagon to go through and probably Bell was supposed to get towncred on your townflip.

I think scum!Ari could have hardpushed Vulture/Greeting and vetoed yours and looked completely unaligned doing that without town getting that extra point.

What if Greeting had been replaced with a much townier player? Ari was hardpushing Kitty before she could have possibly known if that slot could suddenly be made obvtown. I can check the trajectory of Ari Kitty push with both Don replace ins or someone probably should but scum!Ari wouldn’t have known that Vulture would try to rush Dann vote or give me a hard time over hard tr furtive. Vulture could have played that entirely differently then allof the supposedly massive towncred she acquired from Kitty lim would all be for nought.

Roden was so off the charts scummy, any remotely townie looking play from Vulture could have completely changed the outcome of that vote, so hardbussing Kitty just seems unnecessarily risky.

Let’s say Vulture argues for scum!Kuti and unlike Rofen, actually votes them when it could have actually made a difference and/or similar with Bell. Scum!Ari couldn’t have anticipated what Vulture would do or not do, especially since Roden was so blatantly obvscumming.

As people were saying, it did look a lot like RR was hardpocketing me except with d4 Vulture read. On d1, scum knew that furtive was voting wrong, which was likely anothe reason scum piled on you. I think things might have been different had furtive not been on your wagon d1. That helped scum hide, plus I was on it until I wasn’t. Perhaps Bell might have hammered you in that case?

[Loki Dokie]

Anyway shouldn‘t I possibly expect you both to be the same person? You refrain from voting together
So it‘s GL who needs convincing here

Btw, absolutely incredible what you can pull off, the problem is that you got a bunch of doppelgangers lol
I don‘t think I have free will in this matter

i don't think i have the energy to be both loki and myself. that would be a lot

Not to mention also against the rules.

[Loki Dokie]

Anyway shouldn‘t I possibly expect you both to be the same person? You refrain from voting together
So it‘s GL who needs convincing here

Btw, absolutely incredible what you can pull off, the problem is that you got a bunch of doppelgangers lol
I don‘t think I have free will in this matter

i don't think i have the energy to be both loki and myself. that would be a lot

Not to mention also against the rules.

Well, physics rules are overrated according to my recent mafia experience
And I always expect possible rulebreakers, but this game doesn‘t seem like it

I would absolutely love to hear which of your recent mafia games defied the laws of physics. Terminator with the whole time travel thing?

True, I think there is no evidence that time travel to the past is actually possible but that would be a topic better suited for post-game.

[Loki Dokie]

you shoot Radical Rat. a faint giggle is heard coming from Aristeia.

Radical Rat was a

human subject

.

your head starts ringing. a pounding headache follows shortly after.

Aristeia was a

malevolent AI

.

malevolent AIs have scored their final point.

current scores:

human subjects - 2

malevolent AIs - 3

you fall unconscious. endgame incoming.

:/

Wow. should have trusted my wifom on Dann/Kuti

Gg, extremely well played Ari.

Thanks for modding Datisi.

[Loki Dokie]

Sorry to Dann, Vulture/Greeting and RR. I think it’s probably important to vote and push that read. Ya know, there was a tiny part of me that was really glad that Ari wasn’t there to drive the vote. I guess I should have listened to that tiny inner voice.


Loved the setup would play again. I’m wondering if scum should be able to get a point with a d1 miselim?

Anyway I really enjoyed this but I definitely understand Dann’s VG déjà vu.

Being dead town and totally unable to defend yourself is truly hell.

But despite losing, I really had fun in this game.

[Loki Dokie]

I didn’t want to look too obvtown straight out of the gate. I wanted to get a feel for the gamestate and try initially to look as null as possible. Also I really was totally exhausted and I confess that I still haven’t read thar d1 post fire made about GL.

And while it’s definitely a bummer we lost, Ari played extremely well.