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[Thestatusquo]

I'm real timing right now

I dont think that its that telling 15 minutes Into the game sadly

This back and forth with me feels like more interactive real timing than i noticed you doing for most of day one. Is there any reason for that? Either for the relative lack of it day 1 or for doing it now?

I'm interested in real timing with you in particular so I'm delighted rn.

[Nero Cain]

tbh this looks so much like a scum hop onto the con wagon

ISO'd dann and conman

VOTE: conman

only thing that gives me slight pause is the vote onto VP but distancing?

[Ydrasse]

I'm real timing right now

I dont think that its that telling 15 minutes Into the game sadly

This back and forth with me feels like more interactive real timing than i noticed you doing for most of day one. Is there any reason for that? Either for the relative lack of it day 1 or for doing it now?

I'm interested in real timing with you in particular so I'm delighted rn.

the longer days go on when i dont have any reason to really change my mind the less i care about the game especially on day 1 with like next to no info
i get the tired sleepy when it comes to mafia

start of day exciting and fun but i will probably burn out after i figure out what i want to do for Ze day

[Thestatusquo]

Dig more into my wall and you'll also notice i said basically nothing about vpb because honestly he didn't make that much of an impression on me.

Which looks like garbage now that the flip has happened but I'm not gunna go add a bunch of stuff ex post facto.

[Ydrasse]

ConManMick (10): Ydrasse, Aristeia, Irrelephant11, Ausuka, Datisi, scamper,

Gamma Emerald, humaneatingmonkey, DeasVail, VP Baltar

Dannflor (3): GuiltyLion, Frogsterking, fireisredsir
GuiltyLion (2): obscure, Dannflor
Gamma Emerald (2): marcistar, Nero Cain
obscure (1): Firebringer
Aristeia (1): ConManMick
Not voting (1): xofelf
Day 1 will end in (expired on 2022-09-09 23:15:00). With 20 alive, 11 is needed to lim and 10 to no lim.

my one thought overnight was that i thought there were wolves in the bolded at least one
and i was Correct

[Thestatusquo]

I'm real timing right now

I dont think that its that telling 15 minutes Into the game sadly

This back and forth with me feels like more interactive real timing than i noticed you doing for most of day one. Is there any reason for that? Either for the relative lack of it day 1 or for doing it now?

I'm interested in real timing with you in particular so I'm delighted rn.

the longer days go on when i dont have any reason to really change my mind the less i care about the game especially on day 1 with like next to no info
i get the tired sleepy when it comes to mafia

start of day exciting and fun but i will probably burn out after i figure out what i want to do for Ze day

I like this answer.

I found your slot extremely hard to sort because i don't remember what you're like despite having i think modded you a couple times.

I kept feeling like you weren't doing very much. Let me into your head.

[GuiltyLion]

Spoiler: Irrel trajectory on VPB

Why do you ask? I think there's enough content here that you don't have to pick at vibe reads

Seemed like a read not based in reality.

What should I be picking at?

What does "a read not based in reality" actually mean

It means it seems like you made it up and now you are covering poo with ~vibes~

This feels like a wildly out-of-nowhere take?? Like even if you think Ausuka's wrong I'm not sure why it's so unbelievable that her wrong read would be based on vibes

dats, why didn't you withhold your ari read before she can explain what her baltar read was so you can read her better

well for one, she can still explain it. for two, i think scum-her is capable of faking that read. so i don't think it's too alignment-indicative either way.

Why bring it up if it's NAI?

wow can't believe Datisi is the planned D1 bus for once

townier than rand:

vpb

VOTE: VP Baltar
I love wagons

I was actually just on VPB and my townlean on VPB has mostly faded at this point. Could go either way. Datisi feels like a lightning rod choice bound to pull in a lot of attention, alternatively VPB might be an interesting wagon as someone sitting closer to most people's null piles. So uh yeah, could go either way lol

This back and forth progression on VPB feels more likely to be real and not a projected trajectory

hmmm

usually I don't see scum fake reversals like 403 to 652

however the fact that VPB flipped maf weakens that somewhat as it could be a thing specifically to pretend to be uninformed

I genuinely don't know if I feel strongly about this being T-S or S-S, would love to hear others opinions

[Ydrasse]

I'm real timing right now

I dont think that its that telling 15 minutes Into the game sadly

This back and forth with me feels like more interactive real timing than i noticed you doing for most of day one. Is there any reason for that? Either for the relative lack of it day 1 or for doing it now?

I'm interested in real timing with you in particular so I'm delighted rn.

the longer days go on when i dont have any reason to really change my mind the less i care about the game especially on day 1 with like next to no info
i get the tired sleepy when it comes to mafia

start of day exciting and fun but i will probably burn out after i figure out what i want to do for Ze day

I like this answer.

I found your slot extremely hard to sort because i don't remember what you're like despite having i think modded you a couple times.

I kept feeling like you weren't doing very much. Let me into your head.

im deranged. also there isnt a whole lot right now because it was goop at the end of day 1 and now im kind of waiting for everyone to check in

i dont think the wagons mean too much or like. you cant really read them well on the basis of vp balter's it doesn't say a lot

ari's reads probably good to die

[Ydrasse]

my readlist is around here rn:

town mayor:

scamper

angels:

Ari, Ausuka, Marci, Ydrasse



Probably Good:

Gamma, HEM, Nero, Frogster, GuiltyLion, Obscure, xof,

Null+:

Dann, Relly,

Idk:

Deasvail

groupscum:

datisi, vpb, fireisredsir, conmanmick

mafia traitor:

firebringer

this is mostly where i'm at now.

[Nero Cain]

I mean, doubt VP was the lone scum on that wagon.

[Thestatusquo]

It's very important to recognize that knowing what i know now i wouldn't have voted CMM as either alignment.

[humaneatingmonkey]

VOTE: Datisi

[fireisredsir]

Post 270 is a YIKES from me. Saying that the town read on ausuka came from the datisi callout but the proclamation of ausuka town read came BEFORE the post which is referenced in this post. Post hoc justification of a read is serious scum vibes. There was no datisi callout yet, just a naked vote.

um ausuka voting datisi for that post is why i called ausuka town

the vote was not naked it was directly in response to datisi's post and quoted it

she did not explain the reasoning behind it but she didn't need to bc i understood what she was thinking anyway (or at least i thought i did, and her later explanation confirmed that)

[Thestatusquo]

I'm really interested in what people think about what i think about obscure.

Because i was not happy when i came to the conclusions i did. So sanity checks appreciated.

[Thestatusquo]

Post 270 is a YIKES from me. Saying that the town read on ausuka came from the datisi callout but the proclamation of ausuka town read came BEFORE the post which is referenced in this post. Post hoc justification of a read is serious scum vibes. There was no datisi callout yet, just a naked vote.

um ausuka voting datisi for that post is why i called ausuka town

the vote was not naked it was directly in response to datisi's post and quoted it

she did not explain the reasoning behind it but she didn't need to bc i understood what she was thinking anyway (or at least i thought i did, and her later explanation confirmed that)

Possible i missed that context. I'll go back and reread it later tonight and decide if i was being unfair.

[Nero Cain]

the ari kill is WIFOM. Her reads aren't perfect obv and they weren't that far off from mine though my scum reads were mostly in her null pile.

[fireisredsir]

Post 1414 self meta is either useless or cheating. Either you are lying and you try to do these things equally because you are aware of them, OR you are actually aware of the differences in your play and intentionally not fixing them and bringing them to the attention of others in your town games is borderline trust telling. So I guess my question to you is: Which is it? Are you so bad that there is a massive difference in your town games and your scum games in how you fundamentally approach day one and you’re mentioning that here to say you’re town in this game, or are you a capable town and scum player who we can safely disregard your self meta description of yourself?

don't rly care what you think about the usefulness of self meta, i like sharing my thoughts. you are welcome to ignore them if you want

calling it borderline trust telling is ridiculous. nowhere did i say that my town and scum games are wildly divergent and that one should be instantly recognizable. i was just trying to explain my motivations/mindset in this specific game bc it was relevant to the post i was responding to

my goal as scum is not to precisely imitate my townplay. it's to get townread and to kill town. those are accomplished in very different ways so your point here is irrelevant

[marcistar]

is it bad i barely know how to play anymore

i tried scroll reading the thread during the night but barely anything stood out to me

[Frogsterking]

My solve coming into today was elephant (replacement), Baltar, firebringer (replacement), and dannflor. I expected this list of 4 to contain at least 2 scum.

I see no reason now to second guess my analysis, and I suggest there is at least 1 scum in elephant (replacement), firebringer (replacement) and dannflor.

[obscure]

@thestatusquo I am a new player. I'm not asking to be seen as townie for it as I do have experience with social deduction games but I would prefer if you respect the fact that I am new regardless because... what you're saying is coming across as quite offensive when I'm only trying to figure things out. Maybe I seem dumb but subbing into a game for the first time in so many pages as my first game ever isn't exactly easy.

More thoughts tomorrow.

[marcistar]

@thestatusquo I am a new player. I'm not asking to be seen as townie for it as I do have experience with social deduction games but I would prefer if you respect the fact that I am new regardless because... what you're saying is coming across as quite offensive when I'm only trying to figure things out. Maybe I seem dumb but subbing into a game for the first time in so many pages as my first game ever isn't exactly easy.

More thoughts tomorrow.

can u scumread some bitches tmmrw xoxo

[Thestatusquo]

Post 1414 self meta is either useless or cheating. Either you are lying and you try to do these things equally because you are aware of them, OR you are actually aware of the differences in your play and intentionally not fixing them and bringing them to the attention of others in your town games is borderline trust telling. So I guess my question to you is: Which is it? Are you so bad that there is a massive difference in your town games and your scum games in how you fundamentally approach day one and you’re mentioning that here to say you’re town in this game, or are you a capable town and scum player who we can safely disregard your self meta description of yourself?

don't rly care what you think about the usefulness of self meta, i like sharing my thoughts. you are welcome to ignore them if you want

calling it borderline trust telling is ridiculous. nowhere did i say that my town and scum games are wildly divergent and that one should be instantly recognizable. i was just trying to explain my motivations/mindset in this specific game bc it was relevant to the post i was responding to

my goal as scum is not to precisely imitate my townplay. it's to get townread and to kill town. those are accomplished in very different ways so your point here is irrelevant

I disagree with you about this but i don't actually think it's relevant to your alignment so I'm not really interested in discussing it further.

[Gamma Emerald]

I'm really interested in what people think about what i think about obscure.

Because i was not happy when i came to the conclusions i did. So sanity checks appreciated.

It’s not bad I think
I wasn’t really scanning for excessive noob card usage but from your scan it seems that was going on and I’ve def seen scum use it to great effect

[Thestatusquo]

@thestatusquo I am a new player. I'm not asking to be seen as townie for it as I do have experience with social deduction games but I would prefer if you respect the fact that I am new regardless because... what you're saying is coming across as quite offensive when I'm only trying to figure things out. Maybe I seem dumb but subbing into a game for the first time in so many pages as my first game ever isn't exactly easy.

More thoughts tomorrow.

hi shea!!!

Hi! I thought you were scum but then i decided you probably weren't.

[obscure]

Who did status replace?