LOST (Game Over)

[Mislim Bait]

if he's town then obviously everyone he tracks is clear

what if he's town and he starts faking guilties on people who are town

have you thought about that

you're assuming he's town

there is also the possibility he is just scum

I mean you're the one assuming he's town that would fake a guilty again.

I already said why it's beneficial even if he's scum

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

there is significant scum motive to fake a guilty:

(1) eliminates a town player
(2) makes it plausible why you didn't die at night
(3) refuge in audacity - why would i fake a guilty?!?!?!

I don't really give a fuck what people say about town motive to fake a guilty

as far as I am concerned if you push it all the way to elimination you're throwing or scumsiding or whatever the fuck you want to say

I am not interested in arguing with Drapion about his actions

dude needs to eat rope for faking a guilty.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

saying you have seen worse play doesnt mean we accept shit play

[Best Bird]

Legit confused why there has yet to be a hammer.

[Noraa]

I kind of want drap to stay alive today
even if drap is really wolf it's more optimal for town to have him as the last wolf alive because then he would be forced to give green checks as a tracker.

He already lied about DNA, so totally don’t know why you think he’s suddenly going to tell the truth?

I kind of want drap to stay alive today
even if drap is really wolf it's more optimal for town to have him as the last wolf alive because then he would be forced to give green checks as a tracker.

how does scum get "forced to give green checks"? i disagree with all reasons to keep drap except "i think drap is town" reasons.

If he's the last wolf alive then obviously every person he tracks is town
if he's town then obviously everyone he tracks is clear

do you like understand how tracks work? i dont mean that offensively but this makes no sense.

Sigh. If there is only one scum left then Drap would clear anyone who didn’t visit on a night there was a kill. Scum!Drap would have to clear just like town!Drap otherwise we would flip on a faked guilty.

EXCEPT Drap already faked a guilty so the whole point is moot.

Fucking hammer.

"if he's the last wolf alive then obviously every person he tracks is town" does not help anyone and makes no sense. like yes any action scum does to someone else is going to be an action on town if there is only one scum left?
"if he's town then obviously everyone he tracks is clear" barely stands because that's not the case right now unless some bastard element flipped a scum as town.

also why are you angry with me for not hammering? like theres plenty of other people who could hammer. i already told you i think drap is town; you could ask any of the other 4 or whatever people who aren't on wagon.

[Off The Hook]

Legit confused why there has yet to be a hammer.

It’s because Johnny wants to bluster about doubting Drapion but clearly is averse to pulling the trigger because they’re scumbuddies

~GE

[Noraa]

What even is the case for Drap and Johnny scum???

[Mislim Bait]

I kind of want drap to stay alive today
even if drap is really wolf it's more optimal for town to have him as the last wolf alive because then he would be forced to give green checks as a tracker.

what is hard to understand about this?

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I kind of want drap to stay alive today
even if drap is really wolf it's more optimal for town to have him as the last wolf alive because then he would be forced to give green checks as a tracker.

what is hard to understand about this?

why would drapion be forced to give green checks

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

he literally gave us a red check on someone who flipped town

and you're advocating

to

not

kill him


so

why the fuck

would he give a shit

about giving you

a green check

[Noraa]

Hi gamma!

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

i dont give a fuck what drapion says for the rest of the game

as soon as he red checked a town player and yeeted that town player he is dead to me

dead period

not a single word out of his mouth means anything to me

[Mislim Bait]

I don't care if you guys hammer but can we all agree to shorten night phase.
Last day felt like it was the age of dinosaurs

[Mislim Bait]

he literally gave us a red check on someone who flipped town

and you're advocating

to

not

kill him


so

why the fuck

would he give a shit

about giving you

a green check

you don't understand it
it doesn't matter if he lied if he's the last wolf alive
if he's town and faked a guilty in a world where there's only 1 wolf alive then its 100% game throwing no room for any fancy play there

[Off The Hook]

What even is the case for Drap and Johnny scum???

They both have acted like they’ve been doubting each other but with minimal tangible proof of such
Drapion gave the most token “I could be wrong on Johnny” comment possible, and Johnny said some shit about not wanting to vote Drapion but feeling obliged to despite not actually voting there

~GE

[Noraa]

What even is the case for Drap and Johnny scum???

They both have acted like they’ve been doubting each other but with minimal tangible proof of such
Drapion gave the most token “I could be wrong on Johnny” comment possible, and Johnny said some shit about not wanting to vote Drapion but feeling obliged to despite not actually voting there

~GE

how is anyone supposed to give more than minimal tangible proof when they dont talk?

[Off The Hook]

he literally gave us a red check on someone who flipped town

and you're advocating

to

not

kill him


so

why the fuck

would he give a shit

about giving you

a green check

you don't understand it
it doesn't matter if he lied if he's the last wolf alive
if he's town and faked a guilty in a world where there's only 1 wolf alive then its 100% game throwing no room for any fancy play there

Let me put it this way:
If you enforce your will here and Drapion is scum, you’re giving him carte blanche to scumclaim as hard as he wants with the guarantee that at least one dumbass will defend him

~GE

[Noraa]

if he's town and faked a guilty in a world where there's only 1 wolf alive then its 100% game throwing no room for any fancy play there

ok i finally understand this. what a weird way for something to hit. if he throws in elo and gives a fake clear or guilty, we'd actually be fucked.

[Off The Hook]

What even is the case for Drap and Johnny scum???

They both have acted like they’ve been doubting each other but with minimal tangible proof of such
Drapion gave the most token “I could be wrong on Johnny” comment possible, and Johnny said some shit about not wanting to vote Drapion but feeling obliged to despite not actually voting there

~GE

how is anyone supposed to give more than minimal tangible proof when they dont talk?

?

~GE

[Noraa]

thats the argument that makes keeping him not worth it even if he is potentially a cop in elo. because if he's a cop in elo and lies to us, we lose. and because he lied, we can't trust him anymore because he isn't playing to wincon.

my mind go boom. crazy stuff. i dont think i've ever thought about this that way before.

[Mislim Bait]

he literally gave us a red check on someone who flipped town

and you're advocating

to

not

kill him


so

why the fuck

would he give a shit

about giving you

a green check

you don't understand it
it doesn't matter if he lied if he's the last wolf alive
if he's town and faked a guilty in a world where there's only 1 wolf alive then its 100% game throwing no room for any fancy play there

Let me put it this way:
If you enforce your will here and Drapion is scum, you’re giving him carte blanche to scumclaim as hard as he wants with the guarantee that at least one dumbass will defend him

~GE

He's not out of the chopping block.
I'm just saying that if he's wolf then most optimal to lunch his ppartner first

[Noraa]

with the guarantee that at least one dumbass will defend him

well thats not very nice....
sadribbet

[Noraa]

What even is the case for Drap and Johnny scum???

They both have acted like they’ve been doubting each other but with minimal tangible proof of such
Drapion gave the most token “I could be wrong on Johnny” comment possible, and Johnny said some shit about not wanting to vote Drapion but feeling obliged to despite not actually voting there

~GE

how is anyone supposed to give more than minimal tangible proof when they dont talk?

?

~GE

mon is literally always busy. ofc theres not much "tangible proof"

[Noraa]

drap is a different story but drap is a strange player so its not easy to read into it anyways

[Off The Hook]

Hm
I wonder; did any one slot specifically benefit from Drapion’s fake guilty?
I’ve been thinking about how his gambit could have been better if only 1 scum was alive and then it came to me that maybe Drap decided to make a saving throw for his scum partner. If he’d done a play like that as last scum alive it could have been the game-losing misplay, so it could have been that he had to do it before his last partner got sunk.

~GE